[Update: Seller Complaints Accumulating] HGST Ultrastar He10 - 10TB @ $129.95
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They ARE being shipped. "Picked Up @4:09pm, Sanford, FL"
I ordered at 4am Sat. 19Mar22 (6765 sold at that point; then till now [60 hrs], 450 more sold)
On another matter, @wildpig1234 , your ASR-6805t is NOT your problem (since a 4TB drive works). You gave no relevant info in your help request thread [Link]; I (and maybe others) don't like playing "20 Questions" -- you've used what I call the Mushroom Method Keep 'em in the dark & feed 'em sh*t
. Try giving ALL the information possible. Don't attempt to "filter" it; if you knew what was/wasn't relevant, you probably wouldn't need any help.
I ordered at 4am Sat. 19Mar22 (6765 sold at that point; then till now [60 hrs], 450 more sold)
On another matter, @wildpig1234 , your ASR-6805t is NOT your problem (since a 4TB drive works). You gave no relevant info in your help request thread [Link]; I (and maybe others) don't like playing "20 Questions" -- you've used what I call the Mushroom Method Keep 'em in the dark & feed 'em sh*t
. Try giving ALL the information possible. Don't attempt to "filter" it; if you knew what was/wasn't relevant, you probably wouldn't need any help.I am not sure what else i can include that was not already included.They ARE being shipped. "Picked Up @4:09pm, Sanford, FL"
I ordered at 4am Sat. 19Mar22 (6765 sold at that point; then till now [60 hrs], 450 more sold)
On another matter, @wildpig1234 , your ASR-6805t is NOT your problem (since a 4TB drive works). You gave no relevant info in your help request thread [Link]; I (and maybe others) don't like playing "20 Questions" -- you've used what I call the Mushroom Method Keep 'em in the dark & feed 'em sh*t
Both the 52445 and 6805t are using the latest firmware listed on adaptec site. Both will recognize the 4TB HGST fine.
However, neither will work properly with the 10TB. the 52445 controller would say "kernel panic" and not even load the controller bios when the drive is connected. the 6805t would say drive not supported.
The 10TB HGST hdd in question:
HUH721010AL4200
serial 7JK6K9PC
date of manufacture Aug 2017
I have reached out to both adaptec and WDC for answers. Adaptec just got back to me and just claim no support for the drive and won't say anything else...
WDC says they will check to see if there is a firmware for my drive.
The weird thing is that this 10TB works fine on the dell H310 controller.... I guess i might just have to get a few more of those then. I do like adaptec because i've been using their controller for a while and also like the software management. But i am not really using these in raid so i really don't need any fancy software anyway. I just need something that will work!
As i said, i ordered 5 more of the 10TB so i am hoping to get things to work because i like to be able to keep using the 10TB or bigger hdd now since 4TB as an archive medium is a bit too small for my use now. and plus the bigger 10TB are getting to be more cost effective...
Looks like you've made a little progress
: (bold indicates new info)Some (hopefully) constructive criticism:
Better to specify the (controller) firmware version(s) explicitly.
Instead of "playing interpreter", include actual screen captures and/or console copy/pastes. (As potential Problem Solvers, we don't like to rely on an interpreter who is likely not fluent in "the language".)
While "kernel panic" suggests a Unix OS, better to be specific (flavor and version); this will be germane to the procedures we suggest for further analysis.
Always list HDD model #s, and firmware versions (in the drive [not on the label]).
Also, you should describe how the drive(s) connects to the controller; expander? backplane? etc.
And always try to avoid introducing any variables; i.e. after a successful test of the 4TB, remove it at its connector; then directly substitute the/a 10TB at its connector, and test it.
Instead of rectifying/responding_to the above right now, let's wait till your 5 "new" drives arrive, and see how they behave for you. (increased sample size)
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WDC got back to me and claimed that according to that s/n of the drive, it's oem and they don't support oem. so they washed their hands of it too.
I plugged the new 5 drives i just bought with the newer date code 2018 into the dell H310 and it works perfectly. No luck with the adaptec cards so i am returning the 6805t. I might also end up selling my three 52445 cards. No use of me keeping them since they seem to be too picky about what large capacity drive they want to work with!
I plugged the new 5 drives i just bought with the newer date code 2018 into the dell H310 and it works perfectly. No luck with the adaptec cards so i am returning the 6805t. I might also end up selling my three 52445 cards. No use of me keeping them since they seem to be too picky about what large capacity drive they want to work with!
My last experience with Adaptec many years ago was unpleasant enough to keep me in the LSI world ever since. My most common HBA is the H310. No doubt Dell sold a boat load of them and no doubt there are still a boat load of them in service.
Yeah, well, I think it's coming to an end with adaptec for me right now this time since I now have ten 10TB hdd which should last me for about 2+ years of archival. So for that duration i will be using the dell H310
Seems like the 7805 uses a different breakout cable than the 6805? I have already invested in the type of cable used in the 6805 and the dell h310 so I guess i will stick to the older cable.
Also I think everyone probably notice by now that whenever you add an hdd to adaptec adapter, it seems to reserve a fair amount of space away (1GB in a 4TB drive) inside a hidden partition. Anyone know whats this is for? the dell h310 doesn't do that.
It is NOT the large capacity (after all, your 4TB drive is OK). It IS the 4Kn!
(On the 6805t, you would be perfectly fine with HUH721010AL5200 10TB drives. On the 52445, you could be fine--it would depend on the board's Revision.)
As is typical, "the devil is in the details".
Well, i need an adaptor will a lot of flexibility and the adaptec 54225 andd 6805 inability to work with the 4kn drives would be a problem. Who knows how many more of these drives will be sold from now on and what i can get my hand on. So i need a cheap controller that can handle them all.
Bought one on... the 21st? And it arrived today (24th).
Jan 2018 Manufacture Date
29K Power on Hours
15 Power Cycles
I've already bought a few of these months ago so I knew the seller was legit but thought I'd post what showed up as far as the newer date code vs. the PoH.
Jan 2018 Manufacture Date
29K Power on Hours
15 Power Cycles
I've already bought a few of these months ago so I knew the seller was legit but thought I'd post what showed up as far as the newer date code vs. the PoH.
I bought 4, and receive 2x Jan 2018 4200 and 2x Apr 2018 42C0.
This forum costs me too much money, but I can't help myself.
This forum costs me too much money, but I can't help myself.
I picked two more up. February 2018 build, just shy of 30,000 Power on hours. Running preclears on them now. Full data below for those interested.
Code:
smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.10.28-Unraid] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor: HGST
Product: HUH721010AL42C0
Revision: A3Z4
Compliance: SPC-4
User Capacity: 10,000,831,348,736 bytes [10.0 TB]
Logical block size: 4096 bytes
LU is fully provisioned
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Logical Unit id: 0x5000cca26a3dcd1c
Serial number: 2TH2ZMYD
Device type: disk
Transport protocol: SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is: Fri Mar 25 12:07:33 2022 PDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
Temperature Warning: Enabled
Read Cache is: Enabled
Writeback Cache is: Enabled
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK
Grown defects during certification <not available>
Total blocks reassigned during format <not available>
Total new blocks reassigned <not available>
Power on minutes since format <not available>
Current Drive Temperature: 31 C
Drive Trip Temperature: 85 C
Manufactured in week 05 of year 2018
Specified cycle count over device lifetime: 50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles: 19
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime: 600000
Accumulated load-unload cycles: 1265
Elements in grown defect list: 0
Vendor (Seagate Cache) information
Blocks sent to initiator = 6961740524814336
Error counter log:
Errors Corrected by Total Correction Gigabytes Total
ECC rereads/ errors algorithm processed uncorrected
fast | delayed rewrites corrected invocations [10^9 bytes] errors
read: 0 1 0 1 3558715 33956.482 0
write: 0 0 0 0 73717 180934.214 0
verify: 0 0 0 0 23784 0.012 0
Non-medium error count: 0
No Self-tests have been logged
Background scan results log
Status: scan is active
Accumulated power on time, hours:minutes 29928:37 [1795717 minutes]
Number of background scans performed: 179, scan progress: 1.29%
Number of background medium scans performed: 179
Protocol Specific port log page for SAS SSP
relative target port id = 1
generation code = 1
number of phys = 1
phy identifier = 0
attached device type: expander device
attached reason: SMP phy control function
reason: unknown
negotiated logical link rate: phy enabled; 6 Gbps
attached initiator port: ssp=0 stp=0 smp=0
attached target port: ssp=0 stp=0 smp=1
SAS address = 0x5000cca26a3dcd1d
attached SAS address = 0x500304801789093f
attached phy identifier = 15
Invalid DWORD count = 0
Running disparity error count = 0
Loss of DWORD synchronization = 0
Phy reset problem = 0
Phy event descriptors:
Invalid word count: 0
Running disparity error count: 0
Loss of dword synchronization count: 0
Phy reset problem count: 0
relative target port id = 2
generation code = 1
number of phys = 1
phy identifier = 1
attached device type: no device attached
attached reason: unknown
reason: power on
negotiated logical link rate: phy enabled; unknown
attached initiator port: ssp=0 stp=0 smp=0
attached target port: ssp=0 stp=0 smp=0
SAS address = 0x5000cca26a3dcd1e
attached SAS address = 0x0
attached phy identifier = 0
Invalid DWORD count = 0
Running disparity error count = 0
Loss of DWORD synchronization = 0
Phy reset problem = 0
Phy event descriptors:
Invalid word count: 0
Running disparity error count: 0
Loss of dword synchronization count: 0
Phy reset problem count: 0I had 4 arrive yesterday, all were Jan 2018 with almost 30k power on hours, ~15 start/stop cycles, ~165 TB written. Currently using with an LSI 9207-8i in IT mode. So far so good! Hope they last at least another 30-50k hours.