Turbocharge your Quanta LB6M - Flash To Brocade TurboIron - Big Update!

fohdeesha

fohdeesha

Kaini Industries
Nov 20, 2016
2,228
2,222
113
30
fohdeesha.com
epicurean said:
Hi,
Newbie alert here.
What does this command mean in the list of instructions :
"setenv ipaddr 192.168.1.50
setenv serverip 192.168.1.49"
Which workstation or server is the 2 referring to?

Is it normal for it to repeat loading over and over again, after inputing this command?
"tftpboot 0x100000 brocadeboot.bin"

I stopped right here in the flashing process as I am uncertain if I am doing something catastrophic
thanks!
Click to expand...
You were wise to stop and ask before blindly continuing on :)

and yeah, what @Unfadingpyro said - you'll need to be running a tftp server with the files mentioned in the guide. TFTPD32 : an opensource IPv6 ready TFTP server/service for windows : TFTP server is a good free option

tftpboot command should only run once, and the "bytes transferred" number should match the example in the guide.

Read the guide again very closely, it mentions that you must have and be familiar with using a TFTP server. I don't want to be responsible for a brick!
 
fohdeesha

fohdeesha

Kaini Industries
Nov 20, 2016
2,228
2,222
113
30
fohdeesha.com
if you've only gotten that far you can safely just reboot/unplug the switch and start over. it's only after the "erase" command under "replacing bootloader" that there's no turning back (at least not until you have a new bootloader copied)
 
fohdeesha

fohdeesha

Kaini Industries
Nov 20, 2016
2,228
2,222
113
30
fohdeesha.com
Not really, just point it to a folder and make sure you put the two brocade files in there. Then the switch should be able to access it. If you have Windows firewall on it might not be able to connect
 
E

Ethan Cain

New Member
Mar 13, 2018
4
3
3
37
So I'm in a bit of a pickle...

I've been following this thread for a while, got a few LB6Ms for a LAB environment, and I'm having an issue with one after flashing it.

Basically, when I first flashed it and I was trying to setup the OOB and IB mgmt settings, it wasn't reachable via either method. I think it may have been a bad flash, so I went into the bootloader to re-flash back to stock and then back to Brocade. The issue I'm having remains. I plug in a cable to the MGMT1 port and set the ip (via ip address 192.168.1.49/24) and even though it says it is set, and the port light is on, and I have a connection, I cannot ping anything outside of the switch, and nothing else can ping the switch. The setup is very basic, a computer with Ubuntu and the TFTP server role, and the switch, both manually set IPs. So, because of this, the TFTP file pull times out and I can't do anything else.

I have done the t2 diag menu for ethernet, and that hasn't helped (boot, Monitor>t2, ethernet test > all tests > esc,esc > set IP > try to pull TFTP files (no luck).

The other two LB6M switches I have I did the same upgrade to (via the guide) and even reverted and etc once. No issues with them. When I set the IP in the bootloader (with the same net config) I can instantly ping both ways.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. If I have to buy a JTAG programmer and do that, is there a guide?
 
fohdeesha

fohdeesha

Kaini Industries
Nov 20, 2016
2,228
2,222
113
30
fohdeesha.com
Ethan Cain said:
So I'm in a bit of a pickle...

I've been following this thread for a while, got a few LB6Ms for a LAB environment, and I'm having an issue with one after flashing it.
Click to expand...
Well that's certainly interesting. If you answer each question below we should hopefully be able to fix this quick

1. Do you have other flashed LB6M's plugged in while trying to set up and ping/use this broken LB6M? If so they all have the same mac address if you haven't changed it, which would explain these issues. You say that you couldn't even make contact using the IN band management, which tells me it's some kind of software or network issue

2. Stupid question, but the IP you're assigning the switch is in the same subnet as the tftp server right? and you're sure it's plugged into mgmt port 1, not 2?

3. In the brocade bootloader on the broken switch, run the below command. It should reboot back into the bootloader, now with a fresh valid MAC. Give it an IP and try pinging out to something in the same subnet again. If it still fails, try the t2 ethernet test, then try again.

set ether-address 748e.f8e2.d200
#pull power, then re-power. the "reset" command doesn't work in brocade BL so it can't be used

If it's not a MAC conflict with your other flashed switches, it could potentially be it using an invalid MAC. it tries to pull the chassis MAC address from EEPROM, when it sees the garbage data in there leftover from Quanta it should ignore it, but I guess it's possible that's not happening. The above command would resolve that

4. If all the above fails, try a different ethernet cable of a different length, plugged into a different switch/endpoint if you have one. If you're using a shorter cable, find a longer one, vice versa. If it IS your mgmt port refusing to work with the brocade fw EQ/clock values, changing the impedance/distance on the ethernet side has a slim chance of helping

Try all that and let me know what happens. Worst case it shouldn't come to JTAG. The units can be quite expensive with the right firmware on ebay. Another STH user completely bricked his, he shipped it to me and back so I could JTAG it, I think it cost him $40 total. I'd be willing to do the same for your chassis (if you're in the USA) if we can't get it figured out
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: rsjostrand and Ethan Cain
E

Ethan Cain

New Member
Mar 13, 2018
4
3
3
37
fohdeesha said:
Well that's certainly interesting. If you answer each question below we should hopefully be able to fix this quick
Click to expand...
I will give step 3 a try tomorrow. As for 1 and 2:

1 - Switch is only connected to the server running TFTP with no other LB6Ms connected. Mac address was change as part of the initial flash, though I erased the flash (it only has the bootloader now) so step 3 may change things (if perhaps the MAC is garbage).

2- IP is the same as in the guide. The switch is set to 192.168.1.50/24 and the TFTP server that it is connected to (it's a VM on hyper-V with a dedicated physical NIC going to the switch) is set to 192.168.1.49. This config works with the other two switches just fine.

3- I didn't realize the RESET cmd didn't work. I thought it just caused the switch to halt/hard stop. Whoops. Otherwise, I'll give this a try as the MAC could be garbage.

4- I've tried different cables, even a brand new Cat6 one. I have not tried a different port, as it's the only one available to get to the TFTP server (that the other switches work with). I will however try on a different system just to see if I can ping.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll follow up tomorrow with the tests.
 
  • Like
Reactions: fohdeesha
N

nade

New Member
Jan 31, 2017
4
0
1
30
Did i need a License for the new Firmware? or will it run without entering an License Key?

Regards
 
N

nade

New Member
Jan 31, 2017
4
0
1
30
fohdeesha said:
third sentence in the guide: "The software itself requires no license or activation to fully function"
Click to expand...
Thanks,. just was confused because a License was mentioned here.

"The Brocade TurboIron 24X is a switch that was EOL’d in early 2017. In terms of hardware, the hardware of the Brocade TurboIron 24X and the Quanta LB6M were nearly identical which means one simply needs a license and the ability to boot the software on the new switch."
Click to expand...
from: https://www.servethehome.com/turbocharge-the-quanta-lb6m-with-brocade-turboiron/
 
fohdeesha

fohdeesha

Kaini Industries
Nov 20, 2016
2,228
2,222
113
30
fohdeesha.com
yes I agree that's confusing wording, I'm assuming patrick put that there to protect himself and STH from any "legal repercussions"

(however after telling a Brocade SE at work about this, he laughed and couldn't care less, granted he doesn't speak for their legal department, but I'm assuming they couldn't care less about EOL firmware either)
 
E

Ethan Cain

New Member
Mar 13, 2018
4
3
3
37
fohdeesha said:
Well that's certainly interesting. If you answer each question below we should hopefully be able to fix this quick

1. Do you have other flashed LB6M's plugged in while trying to set up and ping/use this broken LB6M? If so they all have the same mac address if you haven't changed it, which would explain these issues. You say that you couldn't even make contact using the IN band management, which tells me it's some kind of software or network issue

2. Stupid question, but the IP you're assigning the switch is in the same subnet as the tftp server right? and you're sure it's plugged into mgmt port 1, not 2?

3. In the brocade bootloader on the broken switch, run the below command. It should reboot back into the bootloader, now with a fresh valid MAC. Give it an IP and try pinging out to something in the same subnet again. If it still fails, try the t2 ethernet test, then try again.

set ether-address 748e.f8e2.d200
#pull power, then re-power. the "reset" command doesn't work in brocade BL so it can't be used

If it's not a MAC conflict with your other flashed switches, it could potentially be it using an invalid MAC. it tries to pull the chassis MAC address from EEPROM, when it sees the garbage data in there leftover from Quanta it should ignore it, but I guess it's possible that's not happening. The above command would resolve that

4. If all the above fails, try a different ethernet cable of a different length, plugged into a different switch/endpoint if you have one. If you're using a shorter cable, find a longer one, vice versa. If it IS your mgmt port refusing to work with the brocade fw EQ/clock values, changing the impedance/distance on the ethernet side has a slim chance of helping

Try all that and let me know what happens. Worst case it shouldn't come to JTAG. The units can be quite expensive with the right firmware on ebay. Another STH user completely bricked his, he shipped it to me and back so I could JTAG it, I think it cost him $40 total. I'd be willing to do the same for your chassis (if you're in the USA) if we can't get it figured out
Click to expand...
So, resetting the MAC fixed it. Looks like whatever was going on was related to a bad/garbage MAC address. All 3 of my switches are flashed and working great so far on the Brocade V8 L3 firmware.

THANKS for the help!
 
  • Like
Reactions: fohdeesha and mixmansc
fohdeesha

fohdeesha

Kaini Industries
Nov 20, 2016
2,228
2,222
113
30
fohdeesha.com
Ethan Cain said:
So, resetting the MAC fixed it. Looks like whatever was going on was related to a bad/garbage MAC address. All 3 of my switches are flashed and working great so far on the Brocade V8 L3 firmware.

THANKS for the help!
Click to expand...
Great news! And also interesting, never seen that happen before. I'll add it to the guide under emergency steps.

Be sure to use the same command to set the MACs on your other chassis so they don't all have the same, setting it to the original MAC (on the label on the right side of the switch) is probably best
 
fohdeesha

fohdeesha

Kaini Industries
Nov 20, 2016
2,228
2,222
113
30
fohdeesha.com
After some debugging and digging, I'm officially changing the guide's recommendation to default to using the v7 image, not the v8 - even for non-critical applications.

It turns out the v8 image was basically a beta, I don't think it was ever even publicly released to customers for the TI (don't ask how I got it).
One of the major issues is it seems to very primitively respond to STP packets - even with STP disabled! this is why v8 LACP groups would flap for some people - if the other switch (or any other switch in the network) originated STP packets, the TI V8 firmware went nuts with LACP flapping.

the v7 image of course has none of these problems, it's the LTS "stable" codetrain for the TI, was patched and updated a good 15 months longer than the v8 image (all the way up to 2016), and is very well tested - haven't found a single issue yet.

Since there's no downside to running the v7 image (exact same featureset), and it's technically "newer" (latest commit date wise) I recommend everyone run it unless you explicitly need v8 for some reason. There weren't any syntax changes, so if you flash down to v7 from v8, your old config should continue working fine with no changes needed

will update the guide's text to reflect all this
 
  • Like
Reactions: mixmansc
E

epicurean

Active Member
Sep 29, 2014
705
51
28
Oh no. Just when I successfully flashed the v8 image.
So what should we do to move from the v8 to the v7 image?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom