Tyan S8030GM2NE

[tunatoksoz]

Have you found a way of resetting the BMC password? I got a S8036m2ge and I'm having the same issue after first-time login. And making things worse, the 7C13 CPU seems not to be working and I am only seeing BMC logo at boot time

I did add the users on bios, I think. It was a bit confusing there because I thought It did add the password, but it didn't I set something relatively short, but had symbols, numbers, and letters in it.

 

[RolloZ170]

I got a S8036m2ge and I'm having the same issue after first-time login.

some BMC cut the PW lenght. try to enter only 16 or 20 chars...(just a guess)

 

[rsljdkt]

Some update:
While researching for the UART I found out ch341a and test clip so I thought I'd give it another try before sending it back. I flashed the BMC with the one (v3.0) from Tyan's website using NeoProgrammer. After a few tries the BMC is fixed. Now I got a heart beat and IPMI !! So happy with this experiment.

However, I already have everything installed with H12ssl. Now I have to decide if I want to save some money with Tyan...

how did you flash the BMC .ima file? seems it's a compressed format, did you extract it first and how?. I have a similar issue (BMC LED always solid color after power cable connected, after power on, it takes longer time than usual to show BIOS screen in the VGA port, the OS can boot),

 

[RolloZ170]

how did you flash the BMC .ima file? seems it's a compressed format, did you extract it first and how?

read the included Manual update BMC user guide.pdf

 

[rsljdkt]

read the included Manual update BMC user guide.pdf

Thanks.
I made a mistake, the 80300103.ima file should be actually a raw file (not compressed), I was checking the size inside the v300 zip file in Windows Explorer.
In the builtin EFI shell, I flashed the ima file using the socflash.efi, the BMC works now.

 

[flobert]

I know, EPYC is not a beast of low power draw, but i'm interested in that board (S8030GM2NE-2T with 64MB BMC chip) with a small EPYC for example with an 7D12 or a 7282. What idles do you reach in such a scenario? What is possible in terms of power consumption and optimizing?

 

[hmw]

I know, EPYC is not a beast of low power draw, but i'm interested in that board (S8030GM2NE-2T with 64MB BMC chip) with a small EPYC for example with an 7D12 or a 7282. What idles do you reach in such a scenario? What is possible in terms of power consumption and optimizing?

Depending on amount of RAM & nvme devices, you’re probably not going to get much below 50W ~ 60W. I have the board with 256GB of RAM, 6 x NVMe and 4 x SATA devices, a couple of CX-4 cards and a 7502p. The idle is 140W. For comparison, my X11-SCL-iF idles at 25W with a E-2126 and 32GB.

The Tyan is in a 4U case with 6 case fans and a heatsink fan. If you use yours as a workstation with fewer fans, NICs, NVMe devices and less RAM - and you lower cTDP way down (you can’t lower beyond 150w I believe) you should be able to get the idle draw lower. But even the base motherboard & CPU with minimum RAM will still have that 55W idle draw.

 

[tunatoksoz]

Depending on amount of RAM & nvme devices, you’re probably not going to get much below 50W ~ 60W. I have the board with 256GB of RAM, 6 x NVMe and 4 x SATA devices, a couple of CX-4 cards and a 7502p. The idle is 140W. For comparison, my X11-SCL-iF idles at 25W with a E-2126 and 32GB.

The Tyan is in a 4U case with 6 case fans and a heatsink fan. If you use yours as a workstation with fewer fans, NICs, NVMe devices and less RAM - and you lower cTDP way down (you can’t lower beyond 150w I believe) you should be able to get the idle draw lower. But even the base motherboard & CPU with minimum RAM will still have that 55W idle draw.

What case do you have? Is it a rack or a tower? And how much noise does it generate?

 

[hmw]

What case do you have? Is it a rack or a tower? And how much noise does it generate?

It's a rackmount 4U. I used a Rosewill L4000 case.

Two of the front fans are replaced with drive cages:
- 2x ICY DOCK ToughArmor MB699VP-B V3 for NVMe drives
- 2x MB607SP-B cages for SATA drives.

The ICY dock cages were chosen because for the Rosewill chassis they fit perfectly when installed vertically in the front 5.25" bays where the fans are.

The mid fan cage and rear fans are P12 / P8-Max fans from Arctic. CPU cooler is SNK-P0064AP4 from Supermicro. I sometimes run a RTX 4070 there.

Even with all VMs running full tilt, the whole server is very very quiet

I was looking at Supermicro Tower/Rackmount chassis (CSE-745 or CSE-743) and this server is much quieter than Supermicro's so-called 'whisper quiet' towers

 

[chrisk2305]

Hi Guys,
I got this Board a few days ago and can't get the slimsas 8i ports to work. I have a supermicro chassis with nvme backplane (sff-8643 mini sas hd connectors) and the drives are not recognized. I order some chinese slimsas 8i to 2x mini sas hd, as they were the only cables I could find with a straight slimsas 8i connector. my Supermicro Cables won't work as they are angled. I tried the supermicro cable on a nvme hba and the disks were recognized. As I wan't to use the onboard connectors of the board I am stuck. Any cable recommendations (available in europe)? I can't believe that both slimsas connectors on the board are bad, so I guess it is a cable issue? Thanks in advance!

 

[sam55todd]

...I order some chinese slimsas 8i to 2x mini sas hd...
...I tried the supermicro cable on a nvme hba and the disks were recognized...

Have you tried this Chinese cable you have the same way?

 

[chrisk2305]

Thanks for pointing this out. I did the crosscheck today and interestingly any other cable then the original supermicro cable is also not working on the HBA...thats weird. I am running out of ideas what cable to buy. And where the heck is the difference in those cables?

 

[sam55todd]

...I am running out of ideas what cable to buy...

Don't have much to say about this specific MB/connector combination but previously I've bought two 10GTek MCIO (8i) to SFF-8654 (8i) cables on Amazon (which is a bit lengthy but I had no other options back then) for cheap Dual-NVMe adapter (something like this) on my SuperMicro (Intel, it has three MCIO, two for CPU1 and one for CPU2), SSDs work just fine in this link (with one Platinum Xeon QS CPU only single NVMe detected, on another CPU both NVMe are detected but second MCIO connector doesn't work because my version of Gold Xeon Scalable CPU has lower number of PCIe lanes available). But MCIO is a bit different from you connector (I'm pretty sure this SFF-8654 8i on both ends is the one you may need in case of the same dual-NVMe board), just sharing experience about some Chinese brands/products.
Not sure if these cables are any good for SATA, never tried.

 

[hmw]

What specific Supermicro chassis is this?

 

[chrisk2305]

@hmw: This chassis: CSE-826BAC4-R920LPB

 

[MattF]

Thanks for all these details. I bought the first adapter a few days ago and received it yesterday. I will have the 2nd later.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HLSS5T4?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08B1RQRGL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I messed around with the FIDI adapter, using only 3 wires (rx tx gnd), but was only able to receive some garbled text even after I tried all 24 combinations. I did:
1. connect all power cords and with PSU on
2. try different pin positions
3. while all this time have the adapter connected to the 2nd computer
4. make sure COM4 is always shown under windows device manager and PUTTY connected
5. I also measured the voltage. The first 3 pins (from left) is ~3.3V higher to the 4th pin.
Did I do something wrong? Should I start all over (power, usb connection etc.) every time switching the pins?

Hi - has anyone actually figured out which PINS are which on the BMI console header?

I've been through all the combinations, and whilst several result in garbled output, I've not yet managed to get a usable console session.

Background - fairly sure I've bricked the BMI firmware by loading the one that's too big

Hoping to restore it over a serial console.

Tried both minicom and two (at 115200 BAUD no flow control stopbits 1, parity none, databits 8)

@adam2eden @MartB

TIA

Matt

 

[RolloZ170]

Background - fairly sure I've bricked the BMI firmware by loading the one that's too big

expecting you have done the job very good, who should listen to the serial port ?

 

[MattF]

expecting you have done the job very good, who should listen to the serial port ?

Nothing that's in a great state . The FPGA CRC LED is lit up on the board. But it might be possible to push firmware over the serial port with flashrom or socflash?

Before trying that though I'd like to be confident that I've wired up the serial/debug port properly and have the correct connection speed parameters.

 

[RolloZ170]

But it might be possible to push firmware over the serial port with flashrom or socflash?

again who should listen if the BMC runs no codes anymore.
try with SPI flasher and clamp (e.g. ch341a)
btw: CPU still work ?

 

[MattF]

again who should listen if the BMC runs no codes anymore.
try with SPI flasher and clamp (e.g. ch341a)
btw: CPU still work ?

Yes CPU is fine (checked in another Mobo). Going to try ch341a when the SOIC16 clip turns up from Amazon later today......

Do I need to be worried about voltage levels, or can I just stick the SOIC16 clip into the ch341a straight, and let flashrom do it's thing?