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RolloZ170

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I see - Q0KL, Q03J, Q0KS and a few others with and microcode availability in the X13 SMC bios (000806F8/7/6/5/4h).
early E0 like Q03J,Q08? don't work.
Where would I be able to find information on PCIe lane availability, etc?
SPR-SP all 80 lanes.
Any other newer available options on the market? TB (preferably) / GF are fine.
we run currently EMR ES but they need BIOS mod.
BIOS mod = not possible on supermicro X12/X13 and up (except WS boards without RoT)
 
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early E0 like Q03J,Q08? don't work.

SPR-SP all 80 lanes.

we run currently EMR ES but they need BIOS mod.
BIOS mod = not possible on supermicro X12/X13 and up (except WS boards without RoT)

CPU signature #1: 000C06F2h
CPU flags #1: 87h
Checksum #1: 17326254h, valid

CPU signature #2: 000C06F1h
CPU flags #2: 87h
Checksum #2: 17326255h, valid

Any idea what CPU this would be referencing? not something i've come across before.
 
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CPU signature #1: 000C06F2h
CPU flags #1: 87h
Checksum #1: 17326254h, valid

CPU signature #2: 000C06F1h
CPU flags #2: 87h
Checksum #2: 17326255h, valid

Any idea what CPU this would be referencing? not something i've come across before.
C06F1 87 EMR-SP A0
C06F2 87 EMR-SP A1 (prod.)

they share same microcode because cores are same.
we have similar with SPR-SP stepping E - E0...E5 are in one microcodes package 806F8 (ext.header)
 
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Ah, that figures. I saw you had previously posted - Q30H ES2 A0 C06F1 56C 350W - looks like 8570.

So I suppose I will also need to look at the stepping to ensure that it would work - it would need to be a 1 or 2, right?
 

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Ah, that figures. I saw you had previously posted - Q30H ES2 A0 C06F1 56C 350W - looks like 8570.

So I suppose I will also need to look at the stepping to ensure that it would work - it would need to be a 1 or 2, right?
yes.
C06F1 is A0, not work on supermicro
C06F2 is final stepping so far, QS or prod.unit.
 

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Good afternoon! Does anyone have MS73-HB1 on hand? Could someone please suggest the dimensions of the VRM radiators? While the motherboard is being delivered, I want to make custom radiators, otherwise it hurts to look at complete radiators (I'm afraid to imagine what temperatures VRM/MOS are at maximum load).
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Good afternoon! Does anyone have MS73-HB1 on hand? Could someone please suggest the dimensions of the VRM radiators? While the motherboard is being delivered, I want to make custom radiators, otherwise it hurts to look at complete radiators (I'm afraid to imagine what temperatures VRM/MOS are at maximum load).
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Here is me haphazardly shoving tape measure. Can't find my meter... looks 3 and 3/8 inches, or 25.5mm long?

VRMs get about 120c hottest I've stared at. On full load with 8592+, without small 20mm fans i put on there. About 90 otherwise after 24 hours. Running other first board I got with 8480s and with nothing but water blocks, terrible decision. Glued overhead fans on my radiators before to get some flow across those... Any and all flow will drop temps on these nicely.

There was some maker making full VRM waterblock for MS72, tried asking them if they commission set for MS73, said no. Forgot their name though.
 
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Is there a place to download X12DPL-NT6 BIOS version 1.00 to work with the earlier stepping ESes?
 

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thanks. what's the earliest ES that BIOS 1.0 supports? QWxx, or does it also do QUxx/QVxx?
BIOS 1.0 for X12SPL and X12SPM supports step 4,5,6 (QWxx/QUxx/QVxx)
X12DPi supports QUxx/QVxx up to BIOS 1.1a
QWxx step 6 is supported by all BIOS/models
 

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thanks. what's the earliest ES that BIOS 1.0 supports? QWxx, or does it also do QUxx/QVxx?
you want not realy work with BIOS 1.0
if you look at the RelNotes/changelog you have to manage hundreds of bugs, lack of functionaly etc.
but if you realy try: good luck !
 

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they work. but cooling can be an issue if FANs are in a row.
I remember asking you about coolers long time ago. Basically since then I've used what you've recommended - a pair of NH-U12S - officially they are incompatible with MS73, but in reality they fit, however putting fans back on the cooler is harder than it should be (you can't put your fingers between the coolers, so you need to push the bracket in and help yourself with a screwdriver if needed).
 

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not in a server chassis with air shrouds...
Yeah, true. I was about to say that I'm not sure if something like Arctic Freezer 4U would fit and if it would work properly as it would be basically getting hot air from the other cooler. And I can see how 350W might be a problem if you use something like Dynatron S5R1 or S6
 

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Is it worse than 40c air coming from a big array of disks in the front of the chassis?
it is around 50-60c celsius. the problem is the second CPU gets 20c hotter.
heatpipes need temp. delta to work.
to be precise:
sure this works. it is easy because just physics.
with enough Airflow you can handle this.
but your neighbors will call the police because they'll think you're building a jet plane in your living room.