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RolloZ170

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Both processors are the same. How easy it could work on a supermicro X11DAi-N motherboard with these processors.
The boards are very close to each other.
X11DAi is a workstation motherboard. no magor changes in revisions.

X11DPi is a server motherboard.
from rev. 1.21 to 2.x change of VRM controller from TI to MPS, removed omnipath Fabric ('F' type SKU) support
 
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Took the processors off, wiped them both down. They are the same. I wrote 8160 es before (when I had access, but I can't reliably verify).

I ended up leaving one processor and rearranging the memory and it started.

Now I take it the question is to check both one CPU slot and half of the motherboard for memory.
 

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X11DAi is a workstation motherboard. no magor changes in revisions.

X11DPi is a server motherboard.
from rev. 1.21 to 2.x change of VRM controller from TI to MPS, removed omnipath Fabric ('F' type SKU) support
I assume your original B0 option requires modifications?
 

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I ended up leaving one processor and rearranging the memory and it started.

Now I take it the question is to check both one CPU slot and half of the motherboard for memory.
OK. if the other CPU also works in first socket, if both CPU are fine try with two processors.
if you get errors again the motherboard has issues.
I assume your original B0 option requires modifications?
B0 BIOS = modified to run B0.
 

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OK. if the other CPU also works in first socket, if both CPU are fine try with two processors.
if you get errors again the motherboard has issues.

B0 BIOS = modified to run B0.
Both processors worked on the same slot.

Checking further.
 

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I moved the processor again. And they worked.....

It's hard to comment, apparently my hands are crooked.

I ask you to recommend what is the best thermal paste for these machines?

Have now gotten to 5 planks with 10 that worked.

But when turned on it overloads many times, the more planks the longer.

But the fact is, for all your recommendations and help - huge thanks!
 
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you may ask wrong person: doesn't matter which, use not too much.
Guys, it's on. It's seeing 160 gigs. The key errors were with the bios and the correct order of memory installation.

I will add that the previous mother died because of a simple connection of the power supply to the power supply unit, and the static current went to the mother. Unfortunately, I did not press the start button before turning on the power.

It will be a different experience.

Many thanks for your help.
 
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QWAQ,QWAT,QWAP,QWAN,QWAS.
no QS but all stepping D0 ES working even on Supermicro.
avoid QU**,QV**
I've got a bit of a different requirement, i have a Supermicro X13 board that I need to get a couple of Xeon Platinums to run on (4th or 5th gen).

No interest in using old 1.0 BIOS (learnt that the hard way with my X11 boards..)
What are the most cost effective options that I can look at?

Core count, speed, etc are not important, the only two core requirements are 4th/5th gen Platinum (XCC) and sufficient PCIe lanes for NVME (the board has 24x NVMe x4 ports)

From reading back -50 pages and referencing the spreadsheet, the last recommendations were Q0KL/KG/KH/KS/KJ.
I see - Q0KL, Q03J, Q0KS and a few others with and microcode availability in the X13 SMC bios (000806F8/7/6/5/4h).
Where would I be able to find information on PCIe lane availability, etc?
Any other newer available options on the market? TB (preferably) / GF are fine.
 
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RolloZ170

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I see - Q0KL, Q03J, Q0KS and a few others with and microcode availability in the X13 SMC bios (000806F8/7/6/5/4h).
early E0 like Q03J,Q08? don't work.
Where would I be able to find information on PCIe lane availability, etc?
SPR-SP all 80 lanes.
Any other newer available options on the market? TB (preferably) / GF are fine.
we run currently EMR ES but they need BIOS mod.
BIOS mod = not possible on supermicro X12/X13 and up (except WS boards without RoT)
 
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early E0 like Q03J,Q08? don't work.

SPR-SP all 80 lanes.

we run currently EMR ES but they need BIOS mod.
BIOS mod = not possible on supermicro X12/X13 and up (except WS boards without RoT)
Q2SR not work on MS33-CPA board,i dont no why.
 

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early E0 like Q03J,Q08? don't work.

SPR-SP all 80 lanes.

we run currently EMR ES but they need BIOS mod.
BIOS mod = not possible on supermicro X12/X13 and up (except WS boards without RoT)

CPU signature #1: 000C06F2h
CPU flags #1: 87h
Checksum #1: 17326254h, valid

CPU signature #2: 000C06F1h
CPU flags #2: 87h
Checksum #2: 17326255h, valid

Any idea what CPU this would be referencing? not something i've come across before.
 
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CPU signature #1: 000C06F2h
CPU flags #1: 87h
Checksum #1: 17326254h, valid

CPU signature #2: 000C06F1h
CPU flags #2: 87h
Checksum #2: 17326255h, valid

Any idea what CPU this would be referencing? not something i've come across before.
C06F1 87 EMR-SP A0
C06F2 87 EMR-SP A1 (prod.)

they share same microcode because cores are same.
we have similar with SPR-SP stepping E - E0...E5 are in one microcodes package 806F8 (ext.header)
 
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Ah, that figures. I saw you had previously posted - Q30H ES2 A0 C06F1 56C 350W - looks like 8570.

So I suppose I will also need to look at the stepping to ensure that it would work - it would need to be a 1 or 2, right?
 

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Ah, that figures. I saw you had previously posted - Q30H ES2 A0 C06F1 56C 350W - looks like 8570.

So I suppose I will also need to look at the stepping to ensure that it would work - it would need to be a 1 or 2, right?
yes.
C06F1 is A0, not work on supermicro
C06F2 is final stepping so far, QS or prod.unit.
 

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Curiously enough, the X13 BIOS shows support for C06F1. Or is it missing in ME?
LOL, just the existence of the microcode doesn't mean supported.
there is currently only one microcode available, and C06F1 is included, that's all.
 

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Good afternoon! Does anyone have MS73-HB1 on hand? Could someone please suggest the dimensions of the VRM radiators? While the motherboard is being delivered, I want to make custom radiators, otherwise it hurts to look at complete radiators (I'm afraid to imagine what temperatures VRM/MOS are at maximum load).
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