ES Xeon Discussion

[Deepmojo]

I moved the processor again. And they worked.....

It's hard to comment, apparently my hands are crooked.

I ask you to recommend what is the best thermal paste for these machines?

Have now gotten to 5 planks with 10 that worked.

But when turned on it overloads many times, the more planks the longer.

But the fact is, for all your recommendations and help - huge thanks!

 

[RolloZ170]

I ask you to recommend what is the best thermal paste for these machines?

you may ask wrong person: doesn't matter which, use not too much.

 

[sam55todd]

I'm trying again with your firmware now.
The BMC doesn't see anything in the values.
But it's a QL1K

Please check pages 32-33 section 2.5: "Mixing Processors" of following document:
https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/732800/732800 ICX Datsheet vol3 R1.pdf
It's for older generation (3rd Gen Scalable Xeons) but same rules tend to apply.

Same for 2nd gen: (page 33)
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/w...ets/2nd-gen-xeon-scalable-datasheet-vol-1.pdf

 

[Deepmojo]

you may ask wrong person: doesn't matter which, use not too much.

Guys, it's on. It's seeing 160 gigs. The key errors were with the bios and the correct order of memory installation.

I will add that the previous mother died because of a simple connection of the power supply to the power supply unit, and the static current went to the mother. Unfortunately, I did not press the start button before turning on the power.

It will be a different experience.

Many thanks for your help.

 

[Indecided]

QWAQ,QWAT,QWAP,QWAN,QWAS.
no QS but all stepping D0 ES working even on Supermicro.
avoid QU**,QV**

I've got a bit of a different requirement, i have a Supermicro X13 board that I need to get a couple of Xeon Platinums to run on (4th or 5th gen).

No interest in using old 1.0 BIOS (learnt that the hard way with my X11 boards..)
What are the most cost effective options that I can look at?

Core count, speed, etc are not important, the only two core requirements are 4th/5th gen Platinum (XCC) and sufficient PCIe lanes for NVME (the board has 24x NVMe x4 ports)

From reading back -50 pages and referencing the spreadsheet, the last recommendations were Q0KL/KG/KH/KS/KJ.
I see - Q0KL, Q03J, Q0KS and a few others with and microcode availability in the X13 SMC bios (000806F8/7/6/5/4h).
Where would I be able to find information on PCIe lane availability, etc?
Any other newer available options on the market? TB (preferably) / GF are fine.

 

[RolloZ170]

I see - Q0KL, Q03J, Q0KS and a few others with and microcode availability in the X13 SMC bios (000806F8/7/6/5/4h).

early E0 like Q03J,Q08? don't work.

Where would I be able to find information on PCIe lane availability, etc?

SPR-SP all 80 lanes.

Any other newer available options on the market? TB (preferably) / GF are fine.

we run currently EMR ES but they need BIOS mod.
BIOS mod = not possible on supermicro X12/X13 and up (except WS boards without RoT)

 

[arabus]

early E0 like Q03J,Q08? don't work.

SPR-SP all 80 lanes.

we run currently EMR ES but they need BIOS mod.
BIOS mod = not possible on supermicro X12/X13 and up (except WS boards without RoT)

Q2SR not work on MS33-CPA board,i dont no why.

 

[Indecided]

early E0 like Q03J,Q08? don't work.

SPR-SP all 80 lanes.

we run currently EMR ES but they need BIOS mod.
BIOS mod = not possible on supermicro X12/X13 and up (except WS boards without RoT)

CPU signature #1: 000C06F2h
CPU flags #1: 87h
Checksum #1: 17326254h, valid

CPU signature #2: 000C06F1h
CPU flags #2: 87h
Checksum #2: 17326255h, valid

Any idea what CPU this would be referencing? not something i've come across before.

 

[RolloZ170]

CPU signature #1: 000C06F2h
CPU flags #1: 87h
Checksum #1: 17326254h, valid

CPU signature #2: 000C06F1h
CPU flags #2: 87h
Checksum #2: 17326255h, valid

Any idea what CPU this would be referencing? not something i've come across before.

C06F1 87 EMR-SP A0
C06F2 87 EMR-SP A1 (prod.)

they share same microcode because cores are same.
we have similar with SPR-SP stepping E - E0...E5 are in one microcodes package 806F8 (ext.header)

 

[Indecided]

Ah, that figures. I saw you had previously posted - Q30H ES2 A0 C06F1 56C 350W - looks like 8570.

So I suppose I will also need to look at the stepping to ensure that it would work - it would need to be a 1 or 2, right?

 

[RolloZ170]

Ah, that figures. I saw you had previously posted - Q30H ES2 A0 C06F1 56C 350W - looks like 8570.

So I suppose I will also need to look at the stepping to ensure that it would work - it would need to be a 1 or 2, right?

yes.
C06F1 is A0, not work on supermicro
C06F2 is final stepping so far, QS or prod.unit.

 

[Indecided]

Curiously enough, the X13 BIOS shows support for C06F1. Or is it missing in ME?

 

[RolloZ170]

Curiously enough, the X13 BIOS shows support for C06F1. Or is it missing in ME?

LOL, just the existence of the microcode doesn't mean supported.
there is currently only one microcode available, and C06F1 is included, that's all.

 

[iKpuc]

Good afternoon! Does anyone have MS73-HB1 on hand? Could someone please suggest the dimensions of the VRM radiators? While the motherboard is being delivered, I want to make custom radiators, otherwise it hurts to look at complete radiators (I'm afraid to imagine what temperatures VRM/MOS are at maximum load).

 

[Cythisia]

Good afternoon! Does anyone have MS73-HB1 on hand? Could someone please suggest the dimensions of the VRM radiators? While the motherboard is being delivered, I want to make custom radiators, otherwise it hurts to look at complete radiators (I'm afraid to imagine what temperatures VRM/MOS are at maximum load).
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VRMs get about 120c hottest I've stared at. On full load with 8592+, without small 20mm fans i put on there. About 90 otherwise after 24 hours. Running other first board I got with 8480s and with nothing but water blocks, terrible decision. Glued overhead fans on my radiators before to get some flow across those... Any and all flow will drop temps on these nicely.

There was some maker making full VRM waterblock for MS72, tried asking them if they commission set for MS73, said no. Forgot their name though.

 

[bayleyw]

Is there a place to download X12DPL-NT6 BIOS version 1.00 to work with the earlier stepping ESes?

 

[RolloZ170]

Is there a place to download X12DPL-NT6 BIOS version 1.00 to work with the earlier stepping ESes?

the BIOS 1.0 of X12DPL-i6/NT6 do not support earlier stepping ES.
but if you want to try...

https://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/getfile.php?SoftwareItemID=13809

 

[bayleyw]

thanks. what's the earliest ES that BIOS 1.0 supports? QWxx, or does it also do QUxx/QVxx?

 

[RolloZ170]

thanks. what's the earliest ES that BIOS 1.0 supports? QWxx, or does it also do QUxx/QVxx?

BIOS 1.0 for X12SPL and X12SPM supports step 4,5,6 (QWxx/QUxx/QVxx)
X12DPi supports QUxx/QVxx up to BIOS 1.1a
QWxx step 6 is supported by all BIOS/models

 

[RolloZ170]

thanks. what's the earliest ES that BIOS 1.0 supports? QWxx, or does it also do QUxx/QVxx?

you want not realy work with BIOS 1.0
if you look at the RelNotes/changelog you have to manage hundreds of bugs, lack of functionaly etc.
but if you realy try: good luck !