ES Xeon Discussion

[Deepmojo]

B0 BIOS
or choose old 2.0 BIOS, yo ucan find here

you should be able to log into the IPMI, default is DHCP (check your router)
AFU may reject a modded BIOS.
if you can't buy 4108 e.g. they are cheap.
X11DPi-NT is not cheap, you can get a 6138 20 cores retail for $23 usd now.

Thanks for the answers!

I managed to go to ipmi, but it didn't show the firmware data.
According to the list and model I chose 2.0, it worked.

But now when I insert memory, I see the same error with memory. But already with unsupported frequency

• "All channels are disabled due to memory test failures"
• "P2-CHC: DIMM channel configured frequency is not supported. (PromoteWarningException)"
• "System Initializing.."

 

[Deepmojo]

On version 2.0 there shouldn't be such problems, right?

 

[RolloZ170]

According to the list and model I chose 2.0, it worked.

But now when I insert memory, I see the same error with memory. But already with unsupported frequency

• "All channels are disabled due to memory test failures"

On version 2.0 there shouldn't be such problems, right?

try with one CPU only. remove memory from CPU2
install RAM according to the manual.
remove CPU1 and check socket pins. reinstall CPU1 properly.
turn screws 3&4 until you feel the end, the leaf spring must touch the cooler.
edit:
clear CMOS, try my BIOS for SKL B0

It's an engineering processor. And there's no way to see the model except for the 8160es.

what QDF ? QL1K ?

The only point of solution that I read for updating to BIOS to 3.3, but will start only one processor (based on the vastness of google).

what ?
can you specify that ?
are the porcessors not same ?

 

[RolloZ170]

It's an engineering processor. And there's no way to see the model except for the 8160es.

i start to smell what the problem is.
8160es is shown as 8160 (ES) in CPU-Z ??? then it is a QS step 4, stepping H0
and your other processor is an engineering processor with no model shown,
i guess a QL1K or worst case a omnipath fabric QL2M.
( 'F' type SKU omnipath fabric is not supported by X11DPi-N(T) rev. 2 - only rev. 1.21 and lower )
if that is the case, sorry that don't work. both CPU must have same core count, base clock and step must not different than one step.

 

[Deepmojo]

i start to smell what the problem is.
8160es is shown as 8160 (ES) in CPU-Z ??? then it is a QS step 4, stepping H0
and your other processor is an engineering processor with no model shown,
i guess a QL1K or worst case a omnipath fabric QL2M.
( 'F' type SKU omnipath fabric is not supported by X11DPi-N(T) rev. 2 - only rev. 1.21 and lower )
if that is the case, sorry that don't work. both CPU must have same core count, base clock and step must not different than one step.

Tried all of your steps. No memory error. 8160 (ES) - Yes.

I don't understand your phrase

" both CPU must have same core count, base clock and step must not different than one step."

Both processors are the same. How easy it could work on a supermicro X11DAi-N motherboard with these processors.
The boards are very close to each other.

 

[RolloZ170]

I don't understand your phrase
" both CPU must have same core count, base clock and step must not different than one step."

you sayd:

It's an engineering processor. And there's no way to see the model except for the 8160es.

sounds to me two diff. processors ("except")

How easy it could work on a supermicro X11DAi-N motherboard with these processors.
The boards are very close to each other.

depends on the revision.
i still need the QDF of the 8160es
they are not 8160F right ?

 

[RolloZ170]

Tried all of your steps. No memory error. 8160 (ES) - Yes.

means it works now ?
with 2x 8160 QS QMRV ?

 

[Deepmojo]

I'm trying again with your firmware now.

The BMC doesn't see anything in the values.

But it's a QL1K

 

[RolloZ170]

I'm trying again with your firmware now.

The BMC doesn't see anything in the values.

But it's a QL1K

so not 8160 (ES) shown in CPU-Z
QL1K is 50652 B0 need modyfied BIOS.
BOTH CPU MUST BE SAME

 

[RolloZ170]

Both processors are the same. How easy it could work on a supermicro X11DAi-N motherboard with these processors.
The boards are very close to each other.

X11DAi is a workstation motherboard. no magor changes in revisions.

X11DPi is a server motherboard.
from rev. 1.21 to 2.x change of VRM controller from TI to MPS, removed omnipath Fabric ('F' type SKU) support

 

[Deepmojo]

Took the processors off, wiped them both down. They are the same. I wrote 8160 es before (when I had access, but I can't reliably verify).

I ended up leaving one processor and rearranging the memory and it started.

Now I take it the question is to check both one CPU slot and half of the motherboard for memory.

 

[Deepmojo]

X11DAi is a workstation motherboard. no magor changes in revisions.

X11DPi is a server motherboard.
from rev. 1.21 to 2.x change of VRM controller from TI to MPS, removed omnipath Fabric ('F' type SKU) support

I assume your original B0 option requires modifications?

 

[RolloZ170]

I ended up leaving one processor and rearranging the memory and it started.

Now I take it the question is to check both one CPU slot and half of the motherboard for memory.

OK. if the other CPU also works in first socket, if both CPU are fine try with two processors.
if you get errors again the motherboard has issues.

I assume your original B0 option requires modifications?

B0 BIOS = modified to run B0.

 

[RolloZ170]

Now I take it the question is to check both one CPU slot and half of the motherboard for memory.

how have you populated the memory ?
(don't use the black slots)

 

[Deepmojo]

OK. if the other CPU also works in first socket, if both CPU are fine try with two processors.
if you get errors again the motherboard has issues.

B0 BIOS = modified to run B0.

Both processors worked on the same slot.

Checking further.

 

[Deepmojo]

I moved the processor again. And they worked.....

It's hard to comment, apparently my hands are crooked.

I ask you to recommend what is the best thermal paste for these machines?

Have now gotten to 5 planks with 10 that worked.

But when turned on it overloads many times, the more planks the longer.

But the fact is, for all your recommendations and help - huge thanks!

 

[RolloZ170]

I ask you to recommend what is the best thermal paste for these machines?

you may ask wrong person: doesn't matter which, use not too much.

 

[sam55todd]

I'm trying again with your firmware now.
The BMC doesn't see anything in the values.
But it's a QL1K

Please check pages 32-33 section 2.5: "Mixing Processors" of following document:
https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/732800/732800 ICX Datsheet vol3 R1.pdf
It's for older generation (3rd Gen Scalable Xeons) but same rules tend to apply.

Same for 2nd gen: (page 33)
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/w...ets/2nd-gen-xeon-scalable-datasheet-vol-1.pdf

 

[Deepmojo]

you may ask wrong person: doesn't matter which, use not too much.

Guys, it's on. It's seeing 160 gigs. The key errors were with the bios and the correct order of memory installation.

I will add that the previous mother died because of a simple connection of the power supply to the power supply unit, and the static current went to the mother. Unfortunately, I did not press the start button before turning on the power.

It will be a different experience.

Many thanks for your help.

 

[Indecided]

QWAQ,QWAT,QWAP,QWAN,QWAS.
no QS but all stepping D0 ES working even on Supermicro.
avoid QU**,QV**

I've got a bit of a different requirement, i have a Supermicro X13 board that I need to get a couple of Xeon Platinums to run on (4th or 5th gen).

No interest in using old 1.0 BIOS (learnt that the hard way with my X11 boards..)
What are the most cost effective options that I can look at?

Core count, speed, etc are not important, the only two core requirements are 4th/5th gen Platinum (XCC) and sufficient PCIe lanes for NVME (the board has 24x NVMe x4 ports)

From reading back -50 pages and referencing the spreadsheet, the last recommendations were Q0KL/KG/KH/KS/KJ.
I see - Q0KL, Q03J, Q0KS and a few others with and microcode availability in the X13 SMC bios (000806F8/7/6/5/4h).
Where would I be able to find information on PCIe lane availability, etc?
Any other newer available options on the market? TB (preferably) / GF are fine.