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RolloZ170

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Cause, all ebay seller I asked told me that QV, would not work on the mobo, but only step 6 would work
it depends on the CSME/ CSE SPS configuration.
i got a X13SRA-TF with old intel ME (LGA4677 WS boards run ME not SPS)
old ME has D0/E0 ES support but BIOS lacks D0 microcode which can be added.
updating only the BIOS (not ME) supports still E0
as long as you don't update ME/SPS your board should start non PRD step ES.
here is the proof:
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thats your favorite.
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OK so I buy the QWAN more stability, less power,....
 

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Do yall think a 1000w PSU will be enough for the following config.

QYFS
RTX 3090
2x NVME
6 Fans

I feel like I am right on the edge, but curious what you all think.
 

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Do yall think a 1000w PSU will be enough for the following config.

QYFS
RTX 3090
2x NVME
6 Fans

I feel like I am right on the edge, but curious what you all think.
Unless you plan to load everything literally to 100% max power at once, like 600w on the 3090, you’ll have more than enough power. I run 3x4090 and an overclocked w5-3435x on 1600w. I do power limit the gpus to 400w though when they are all loaded. 450W on all three trip the psu.

The cpu, pump, 12x fans, and motherboard consume 400w total (measured from the wall).
 

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Unless you plan to load everything literally to 100% max power at once, like 600w on the 3090, you’ll have more than enough power. I run 3x4090 and an overclocked w5-3435x on 1600w. I do power limit the gpus to 400w though when they are all loaded. 450W on all three trip the psu.

The cpu, pump, 12x fans, and motherboard consume 400w total (measured from the wall).
Ok ill give it a go then. I have workloads that will max out the CPU, but the only time ill really use the GPU to full power is when im playing games. Curious how much worse that will be then on my 7950x.
 
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Ok ill give it a go then. I have workloads that will max out the CPU, but the only time ill really use the GPU to full power is when im playing games. Curious how much worse that will be then on my 7950x.
Can you post how it goes or what you think after you get it setup. I bought the QYFS with Sage MB to replace 5950x with 6900xt. Thanks.
 

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Do yall think a 1000w PSU will be enough for the following config.
I had a similar config (QYFS+3090) running with a 1000W sfx (seasonic) It survived some long runs on full power. Like stints of 20h, while It was pulling about 800W at the plug. However, my whole system was very silent except for the PSU fan. I never know that psu fans could get so loud, and whining loud. Also the psu was hot to the touch. So I updated the PSU not to be so close to its limit, and because i was planning to upgrade to another 3090. Probably it also depends, on the efficiency, maybe some titanium/planitum, psu needs less cooling, because of better efficiency. Also if the psu is larger than sfx format, the fan can be larger, with lower RPM. If necessary you can also set a power limit on the 3090, at max 270W it still has over 80% of its nominal performance.

However for occasional full load use, if noise is not an issue, i think it will be fine.
The good thing about the asus w790 boards is that you can connect 2 psu's if you want.
Unfortunately, not all 4677 boards have this option, not even dual socket boards.
 
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Unfortunately, not all 4677 boards have this option, not even dual socket boards.
I know it's offtopic in this thread but there are relatively cheap adapters to plug two PSUs into single ATX jack.
If I remember correctly - there's simply additional logic implemented (or should be implemented) for "ON" button and "PowerGood" signal pins.
("ON" signal is given to both PSUs {probably via diodes plus low resistor} and PowerGood to MB is supplied only after both PSUs are ready after initialization, that's why 5V &/AND logic is needed to keep everything in sync, otherwise some m-seconds difference may emerge).
As a result one PSU feeds ATX connector (and some CPU/PCIe/SATA if it has enough spare capacity) and second PSU is exclusively for CPU/PCIe/SATA (ATX connector is only synchronize turning it on).
At least theoretically - although most adapters I've seen don't use extra logic with electrical &/AND components and are looking just as simple cables with ATX jacks.

This is probably the reason why most of MB manufacturers don't implement desktop dual-PSU motherboards for home-use as such adapters are more practical and cheap if really needed.
 
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Q079 (older sample of GOLD 6444Y?) ES showed up on eBay.

Q079(ES1) / Revision D0 / Stepping 3 / 270W / 3.3Ghz / 30M specifications.

I am currently using QYFQ, and was dissatisfied with the low base clock, but the high base clock of Q079 seems attractive.

Will there be any problems if I replace it with this product? QYFQ is being used well without any problems.

The QYF* sample is well known, but this is my first time seeing the Q0** sample. Is this a sample after QYF*?
 

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Q079(ES1) / Revision D0 / Stepping 3 / 270W / 3.3Ghz / 30M specifications.
Q079 is MCC, 806F3(step 3) stepping is called R0 here, revision usualy means microcode which can be alterated.
take a look on Q071, boost max. 3900mhz but 32 cores, all cores boost 3500mhz (non AVX)
Will there be any problems if I replace it with this product? QYFQ is being used well without any problems.

The QYF* sample is well known, but this is my first time seeing the Q0** sample. Is this a sample after QYF*?
Q079 is ES1 MCC (one chip, not 4 tiles) and created later than XCC ES models.
ES1 must not be worse, you can't realy compare QYFQ XCC ES2 with Q079 ES1 MCC.
i haven't had the Q079,
but Q077,Q075 and Q071(All R0 step 3 MCC) are working on ASRock / ASUS W790
 
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Q079 is MCC, 806F3(step 3) stepping is called R0 here, revision usualy means microcode which can be alterated.
take a look on Q071, boost max. 3900mhz but 32 cores, all cores boost 3500mhz (non AVX)

Q079 is ES1 MCC (one chip, not 4 tiles) and created later than XCC ES models.
ES1 must not be worse, you can't realy compare QYFQ XCC ES2 with Q079 ES1 MCC.
i haven't had the Q079,
but Q077,Q075 and Q071(All R0 step 3 MCC) are working on ASRock / ASUS W790
Please help me.
What microcode work with the 9480 Max cpu?
 

meathammer710

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Can you post how it goes or what you think after you get it setup. I bought the QYFS with Sage MB to replace 5950x with 6900xt. Thanks.
Works pretty well. Its def worse for gaming and such then the 7950x that I usually use for that. I ended up disabling half of the cores for right now, as it allows it to clock up to 3.6 on all cores. My usual workload can only utilize ~20 cores effectively at a time, so this allows that to go faster and I can still play video games in the background at a decent framerate.. Considering switching to a Q071 just for the power savings though.
 

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Q079 is MCC, 806F3(step 3) stepping is called R0 here, revision usualy means microcode which can be alterated.
take a look on Q071, boost max. 3900mhz but 32 cores, all cores boost 3500mhz (non AVX)

Q079 is ES1 MCC (one chip, not 4 tiles) and created later than XCC ES models.
ES1 must not be worse, you can't realy compare QYFQ XCC ES2 with Q079 ES1 MCC.
i haven't had the Q079,
but Q077,Q075 and Q071(All R0 step 3 MCC) are working on ASRock / ASUS W790
Thanks for sharing the information.
I think it will be better than QYFQ in terms of power consumption and performance.

QYFQ's performance was disappointing because many processors were idle in normal work situations. And basic idle power consumption was also high.

Q071 (2.7G/3.9G 32C 60M) 300$ / Q079 (3.3G/4.1G 16C 30M) 200$

I'll have to think about it a little more and take off with one of the two.

However, since I plan to use it for MS73-HB, I will purchase two, so there is a price issue and I think I will purchase Q079.