Thank you wery mutch,but i dont no this code what is.
This only cpu code but no microcode.
ES Xeon Discussion
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This only cpu code but no microcode.
Just curious since i am also interested in 9480 Max (the prices are getting more interesting).
I guessed they are only compatible with the Mainboards that officially support them Gigabyte and Supermicro C741.
Also because they have this weird/different cpu shape, or is there any chance that they would work on other mainboards that do not list them? I am also asking because you speak about the microcodes.
they fit in a LGA4677 socket with E1C Carrier which supports the wings of the Xeon Max.
you need C741 at least and BIOS Support, not only microcode. there is a support module(a kind of uncore microcode) for every stepping and
physical chop(XCC,MCC)
if your BIOS don't support Xeon Max natively, i doubt you can add it manualy.(but i can be wrong - that happend lately)
they fit in a LGA4677 socket with E1C Carrier which supports the wings of the Xeon Max.
you need C741 at least and BIOS Support, not only microcode. there is a support module(a kind of uncore microcode) for every stepping and
physical chop(XCC,MCC)
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if your BIOS don't support Xeon Max natively, i doubt you can add it manualy.(but i can be wrong - that happend lately)
This one maybe?
I dont no this last one microcode ok?
On the bios file have same HBM function.
Are there any known E0/E1 SPR-SP chips with accelerators (other that weird Q03J which seems to use D0 microcode)?
retail skus of these only come with DSA:
Q0KG = 8470
Q0KL = 8470Q
Q0KS = 8452Y
these don't have much info online, I wasn't even able to find a seller showing these on ebay/taobao, but maybe one of these is related to 8468H?
Q0KH = 8468/8468H?
Q0KJ = 8468V? 8469C?
retail skus of these only come with DSA:
Q0KG = 8470
Q0KL = 8470Q
Q0KS = 8452Y
these don't have much info online, I wasn't even able to find a seller showing these on ebay/taobao, but maybe one of these is related to 8468H?
Q0KH = 8468/8468H?
Q0KJ = 8468V? 8469C?
806F4 is E0, D0 (806F3) will not work.
most of the errata(bugs) are not in the core section. do not expect accelerators to work properly in stepping E0.
they can, but for what reason intel builded E2,E3,E4,E5 ???
Q08S (also works on ASUS W790 and Gigabyte but probably not on ASRock C741 like Q03J)
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In chart from YuuKi_AnS (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXIgH-iVUAE2S2p?format=jpg&name=4096x4096) it seems like E2/E3 might have been built due to UPI link bugs (there are of course probably more issues fixed in each stepping)?
regardless I'm not expecting the accelerators to work perfectly, just want to see which QDFs to watch out for to try out (even if somewhat or completely broken) accelerators that also work on C741 motherboards without D0 microcode (like supermicro/asrock/tyan/etc.)
I found Q0KM mentioned, which might be 8480+ equivalent, which has one of each accelerator, but I haven't been able to find much information.
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prepared and translated to english.
ask the seller for HWinfo Report file (bus screenshot)
if they refuse you have to buy and check, that's what i doing usualy.
someone must start....
I installed QYFQ and Q071 on a dual socket board and compared them. The memory configuration is 1DPC 8 channels.
The program used Cinebench 2024 / R23 and 7-zip.
Although Q071 has a lower score, I like it better than QYFQ in terms of immediate response from higher clock speeds and less idle power. (QYFQ starts at 150W. Q071 starts at 100W.)
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Although CineBench is commonly used, and i also use it to see if the system is running ok for a new build. It seems not the type of benchmark where dual cpu configs shine compared to single cpu results. See also the results of Arabus above. Also On a single Q03J on Asus w790 Sage i got scores are not that far off your dual cpu results. CB 2024 Multi core 3396, single core 81. I also think it has to do with Power Limit settings. CB is typically run a few times within the time power can be higher than TDP. But it seems that dual cpu systems do not really allow for much more power on 2 cpu's. Maybe it depends on the board, but i never saw more than 350W per cpu on dual config, while i see 370W for single. (Maybe it depends on the board).
But one important advantage for dual cpu config with full memory population (2x8 channels) is that memory bandwidth just doubles. For Neural Networks, and RL training on CPU i really get approximately 1.9-2 times better performance with dual cpu than with single cpu. On Also llama.cpp and ollama on cpu i get 2 times more tokens/s as with single cpu. As always the scalling and performance really depends on the application, dual cpu is not always worth it, but it can be. At least for multi-threaded memory bandwidth it seems steppings later than E0 did not get much faster, then the ES versions.
But one important advantage for dual cpu config with full memory population (2x8 channels) is that memory bandwidth just doubles. For Neural Networks, and RL training on CPU i really get approximately 1.9-2 times better performance with dual cpu than with single cpu. On Also llama.cpp and ollama on cpu i get 2 times more tokens/s as with single cpu. As always the scalling and performance really depends on the application, dual cpu is not always worth it, but it can be. At least for multi-threaded memory bandwidth it seems steppings later than E0 did not get much faster, then the ES versions.
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there still have not been any SPR-SP or EMR-SP ES found with unlocked multiplier yet, correct?
there are some known SPR-WS ES2 but not found for sale.
there is no unlocked EMR-WS Prod. Retail so i doubt an ES can exists.
are all of these just equivalents to the retail counterparts? or do any have different core counts?
ES2 = "0000" there is no equivalent.
search for QS:
Q1**,Q2** with full brand string(CPU-Z shows e.g. "Xeon W5-3475X (ES)" instead of "0000 (ES)"
