ES Xeon Discussion
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Hi,
I ordered step 4 EO CPU and Supermicro X13DEI-T motherboard but no display. After the power its shutdown.
Do you have any idea ?
Current Config
2 x 8490H ( Q03J)
Supermicro X13DEI-T Motherboard
2 x 64GB DDR5 ECC
Is it need any bios modification ?
I downgraded bios 2.1 to 1.1 here is the current firmwares.
But i didnt downgrade CLPD or BMC only downgraded BIOS.
Thanks.
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have seen Q03J orking on X13DEI but i have noticed Q03J E0 is still not same than other E0 like Q0K?
Q03J runs not on ASRock Rack SP2C741 but Q0K? do work.
Possibly you need BIOS 1.0 - unfortunaly this can only be flashed by hardware programmer.
Thank you very much.
Without flashing BIOS which ES it will be work can you share link from ebay ?
thank you very much.
Q0KG/Q0KL,Q0KH,Q0KS,Q0KJ
don't know if available on ebay i usualy buy at taobao(over superbuy agent)
2 questions:
1. Has anyone see any benefits of using early E0 chips over D0 chips on W790 platform? Are these chips any better? I only read that they may have lower idle power consumption.
2. Are accelerators available/enabled on QYFR? How can I check that?
1. Has anyone see any benefits of using early E0 chips over D0 chips on W790 platform? Are these chips any better? I only read that they may have lower idle power consumption.
2. Are accelerators available/enabled on QYFR? How can I check that?
QAT accelerators are not elements that HWinfo uses to differentiate between processors. QYFP e.g. is very similar to QYFQ, but unlike QYFQ it doesn't have any QAT.
I had both QYFS (D0) and Q03J (E0) on Asus W790 Sage. These cpu's are not the same but quite similar. 56Cores max freq 3.7GHz vs 60 Cores max freq 3.5GHz.
From my perspective and experience the difference was not very large, but i slightly prefer the Q03J. Overall the benchmark scores are pretty similar.
Also, Idle power use (at the wall) was quite similar, less than 10% difference with the same settings in linux and bios. 195W for the QYFS D0 system vs 180W for exactly the same system with Q03J E0. System Asus w790E SAGE+2x3090 + 8x32GB mem.
Later i heard that on windows power use could have been tweaked.
I think the most notable difference was that Q03J E0 had similar effective memory bandwidth with 4800MT memory settings compared to QYFS with 6000MT Memory settings.
Which i still do not really understand.
With Q03JI never managed to get the overclock of my Micron 5600MT server memory working, not even at "stock 5600MT". But any way at 4800MT it was just as fast or even a bit faster than QYFS that could overclock the exact same memory to 6000MT or 6200MT.
For every day work i used both for about a month, i preferred the Q03J.
For my personal use cases under long susstained all core loads, (longer than PL times) Say 2 hours 100% load, Q03J was still was about 8-10% faster than the QYFS.
If you already have an QYFS i personally think the upgrade to Q03J is not really worth it.
But If you buy a new system, I would pick Q03J. But it also depends on the price difference.
Comparing the Q03J on w790 Sage to Q0KG on c741 Asrock Rack SPC741D16X-2T with a single cpu and same memory. The Q03J also wins easily, and was actually cheaper.
With Q0KG+ Asrock SPC741 the memory bandwidth is much lower, for reasons unknown to me.
From my perspective and experience the difference was not very large, but i slightly prefer the Q03J. Overall the benchmark scores are pretty similar.
Also, Idle power use (at the wall) was quite similar, less than 10% difference with the same settings in linux and bios. 195W for the QYFS D0 system vs 180W for exactly the same system with Q03J E0. System Asus w790E SAGE+2x3090 + 8x32GB mem.
Later i heard that on windows power use could have been tweaked.
I think the most notable difference was that Q03J E0 had similar effective memory bandwidth with 4800MT memory settings compared to QYFS with 6000MT Memory settings.
Which i still do not really understand.
With Q03JI never managed to get the overclock of my Micron 5600MT server memory working, not even at "stock 5600MT". But any way at 4800MT it was just as fast or even a bit faster than QYFS that could overclock the exact same memory to 6000MT or 6200MT.
For every day work i used both for about a month, i preferred the Q03J.
For my personal use cases under long susstained all core loads, (longer than PL times) Say 2 hours 100% load, Q03J was still was about 8-10% faster than the QYFS.
If you already have an QYFS i personally think the upgrade to Q03J is not really worth it.
But If you buy a new system, I would pick Q03J. But it also depends on the price difference.
Comparing the Q03J on w790 Sage to Q0KG on c741 Asrock Rack SPC741D16X-2T with a single cpu and same memory. The Q03J also wins easily, and was actually cheaper.
With Q0KG+ Asrock SPC741 the memory bandwidth is much lower, for reasons unknown to me.
User MillionMiles made this compatibility table at the other thread.
Now my question is what about Q0KS with X13DAI?
As far as i know nothing is confirmed compatible yet on X13DAI here on the forum, but what are your guesses? Are they similar enough? The last bios versions on the SM website are different.
No Combination offers with X13DAI and ES on ebay (currently), eventhough same sellers do sell other combinations and ES. Bad signs? No response from ebay sellers yet.
Now my question is what about Q0KS with X13DAI?
As far as i know nothing is confirmed compatible yet on X13DAI here on the forum, but what are your guesses? Are they similar enough? The last bios versions on the SM website are different.
No Combination offers with X13DAI and ES on ebay (currently), eventhough same sellers do sell other combinations and ES. Bad signs? No response from ebay sellers yet.
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I was still assuming that X13SEI+Q03J works, eventhough i dont know with what bios.
I know there was no X13DAI in the table. I was not critizising the table. In searches at this and other forums did not come across ES + X13DAI experiences. So that is why i was asking for educated or experenced guesses. I also wrote some of the sellers, maybe they tried, lets see.
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X13DAI is predominantly the same as X13DEI (plus audio and some other features),
same chipset (just as it's younger single-CPU bro like X13SEI),
therefore as long as CPU works on official bios (despite not being listed there by SM)
with X13DEI/X13SEI - I would assume it should be compatible with X13DAI too.
But IMV Q1** ES/QS versions would probably be more desirable (instead of Q0**).
Getting early v1 BIOS for X13DAI could be quite a challenge.
same chipset (just as it's younger single-CPU bro like X13SEI),
therefore as long as CPU works on official bios (despite not being listed there by SM)
with X13DEI/X13SEI - I would assume it should be compatible with X13DAI too.
But IMV Q1** ES/QS versions would probably be more desirable (instead of Q0**).
Getting early v1 BIOS for X13DAI could be quite a challenge.
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while the BIOS may nearly the same, it grants not same compatibility because the CSE SPS is the instance which allows ES or not.
means not SPS 6.0.4.25 is blocking ES in any case, the BIOS engineer configures that with a click (spsMFit.exe)
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