one more thinkg you should know anout 2nd/3rd gen 'C' SKUs. if you have any problems you can not ask Intel, or if you ask you will not get the answer you expect.
ES Xeon Discussion
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not realy: "these 'C' CPU are confidential SKU for select customers, ask the OEM you got them from for support"
its mor like a OEM Windows, on any issues/problems ask the OEM, not MS.
My thought is if you have to ask, you shouldn't be deploying 20 nodes full of engineering samples. Being able to get support from the vendor is important and if you have a QS part in your server the system vendor will probably refuse to provide support.
Ice Lake Xeon is pretty reasonably priced. If you are not looking for top spec parts the Silver 4316 basically matches a flagship Broadwell CPU for $1000. A 2S 256GB node is going to be around $5000 so you're looking at $100K for 20 nodes
@RolloZ170
So I got some additional screenshots from the seller, it shows the cpu name in the bios, in windows, in cpu-z. However it does also say ES... so what are these?
Multiple sellers have now uploaded similar images with all saying this is production OEM and QS at the same time
So I got some additional screenshots from the seller, it shows the cpu name in the bios, in windows, in cpu-z. However it does also say ES... so what are these?
Multiple sellers have now uploaded similar images with all saying this is production OEM and QS at the same time
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That seems like good news, I will purchase some for testing, are you interested in the results? I can post them once the hw is in
Did you end up finding bios to support QL2K ?
Finally got the board to post with my 8175M, looks like my QL2K is just dead, gives 53 memory not detected error. Oh well into the dead chip bin it goes.
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Can a W series QS LGA3647 Xeon working on a server motherboard? Or there is a limitation for workstation chipset only?
I have a QL1L Xeon (6138ES) but i want to replace with something better for gaming because i no longer needed this system for work. I have a Supermicro X11SPM-F with the latest bios (replaced microcode)
There is an Intel Xeon W-3223 QS cpu ebay link
I know that is a low end workstation cpu for this socket but still better for gaming than the low clocked ES cpu.
The W series is not on the motherboard support list but the socket is the same, mobo supports 165w tdp and there was an Xeon Gold 5218R cpu for few weeks testing and worked in this motherboard so it tested with newer Cascade Lake (Refresh) core (with the stock new bios)
Thanks!
I have a QL1L Xeon (6138ES) but i want to replace with something better for gaming because i no longer needed this system for work. I have a Supermicro X11SPM-F with the latest bios (replaced microcode)
There is an Intel Xeon W-3223 QS cpu ebay link
I know that is a low end workstation cpu for this socket but still better for gaming than the low clocked ES cpu.
The W series is not on the motherboard support list but the socket is the same, mobo supports 165w tdp and there was an Xeon Gold 5218R cpu for few weeks testing and worked in this motherboard so it tested with newer Cascade Lake (Refresh) core (with the stock new bios)
Thanks!
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there is no extra Workstation chipset. the difference is only the count of uplink lanes and IO ports.
if you asked supermicro i.e. they most say its not supported because the extra 16 PCIe lanes are not used, Optane Memory is not supported by Xeon W but the motherboard can, and so on...
had a Xeon W3245 QS working on X11SPM (with old BIOS 3.0 - still not TDP block there like from 3.4 and up)
Thanks!
What do you think is the safe TDP for motherboard can handle? 205w?
I have a NH-U14S DX-3647 so the cpu cooling is ok but i dont want to cook the VRM.
X11SPM uses the same components than on X11DPi-N(T) (2x 205W)
there is overcurrent & overtemp function. for stable operation there is a continuous airflow required over the Heatsink like in a flat server chassis.
Another question i found a somewhat good deal:
Intel Xeon Platinum 8176F ES QN3D 28C 2.1GHz 2.8/3.8GHz 38.5MB 165W LGA3647 DDR4 Intel Xeon Platinum 8176F ES QN3D 28C 2.1GHz 2.8/3.8GHz 38.5MB 165W LGA3647 DDR4 | eBay
Can i use this in X11SPM motherboard? I know there is a fabric pcb on this F version cpu but can i simply cut it off?
Intel Xeon Platinum 8176F ES QN3D 28C 2.1GHz 2.8/3.8GHz 38.5MB 165W LGA3647 DDR4 Intel Xeon Platinum 8176F ES QN3D 28C 2.1GHz 2.8/3.8GHz 38.5MB 165W LGA3647 DDR4 | eBay
Can i use this in X11SPM motherboard? I know there is a fabric pcb on this F version cpu but can i simply cut it off?
will NOT work or just at 700mhz with additional problems you can not solve.
the omni path fabric needs additional voltage regulator which the most supermicro not have.
@RolloZ170 Thanks for all your help, it's nice to have expertise that is so accomating and available. I have been sitting on those 2 - X11DPL-i boards for a while now but finally decided to get a Xeon Gold 5218 ES2 QQ9M 125 tdp, I only purchased one just to be sure. I am very happy and will get the other 3 in the next few weeks...
Again thanks for your support and look forward to rocking those 2 rigs now in the Boinc.
PS: how is your mod rig X11DPL-i working out? keep on keeping on!
This is a great forum!
Respect
SV / Steve
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Again thanks for your support and look forward to rocking those 2 rigs now in the Boinc.
PS: how is your mod rig X11DPL-i working out? keep on keeping on!
This is a great forum!
Respect
SV / Steve
Intel Core @ 2795.73 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR
[xv7ckv] Validated Dump by SM-X11DLP-i B2 5218 ES2 QQ9M (2022-06-07 20:59:13) - MB: Supermicro X11DPL-i - RAM: 65536 MB
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