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Awesome project! I've been considering something similar so here are some questions:
What is the idle power draw like?
Can you use m.2 drives in a RAID array? And will it take 110mm length drives?
My use case would be as a server running about three dozen VMs on Server 2022 and I would like to be able to boot off of a RAID1 M.2 array.
What is the idle power draw like?
Can you use m.2 drives in a RAID array? And will it take 110mm length drives?
My use case would be as a server running about three dozen VMs on Server 2022 and I would like to be able to boot off of a RAID1 M.2 array.
impossible to anwer this kind of questions. how many drives, memory, GPU(s) ?
check the manual. 110 is supported. but both CPU M.2 are only available with 112L CPU.
Also by default VROC (Virtual Raid On CPU) works only with Intel branded SSDs, in order to create RAID with non-Intel ones you will need the VROC Key - the standard key (VROCSTANMOD key) is enough for RAID 0/1/10. That key works with both m.2 and PCIe add on SSD cards (also with SSDs connected to MiniSAS connectors).
For example in my case, if it concerns only the processor, not the rest of the system, so my QYFS (56C/112T 350W) when is set in Windows High Performance Mode consumes in Idle approx +- 170W, when is set in Windows Balanced Mode consumes in Idle approx +- 90W (corrected from +-70W). But that's just the processor. As Rollo wrote, it also depends on the rest of the system, there is no simple answer to this.
Otherwise off topic, if someone need more SSD and want PCIe5 with D0 and W790, so can use one day back released ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 Gen5 Card. The official MSRP is only $79, it looks pretty cool.
If will be available in my country, so I want one piece buy for testing with my W790 SAGE.
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That is exactly what I'm looking for so thank you for posting. My build would be pretty simple, 28 core version, 256GB RAM, 2x NVMe SSDs and not much else. I currently have an Epyc 7402 24 core setup that uses about 150W at idle so the Xeon W might be a bit of an upgrade while using less power.For example in my case, if it concerns only the processor, not the rest of the system, so my QYFS (56C/112T 350W) when is set in Windows High Performance Mode consumes in Idle approx +- 170W, when is set in Windows Balanced Mode consumes in Idle approx +- 70W. But that's just the processor. As Rollo wrote, it also depends on the rest of the system, there is no simple answer to this.
Otherwise off topic, if someone need more SSD and want PCIe5 with D0 and W790, so can use one day back released ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 Gen5 Card. The official MSRP is only $79, it looks pretty cool.
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The card arrived today.
ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 Gen5 Card
ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 Gen5 Card
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Who says that ASUS ROG Strix RTX 4090 OC is a big graphics card?
In my computer it looks as standart card, maybe smaller than bigger.
In my computer it looks as standart card, maybe smaller than bigger.
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Sorry to resurface an old thread.. But did you install your QYFS CPU with the E1A carrier clip? Or without one?
carrier E1A and E1B comes with motherboard(supermicro,gigabyte,asus)
gigabyte included the E1C (Xeon Max.) as well.
Sorry for replying to al older post. All parts arrived i started building. Dumb me trying to fit that silly carrier bracket, on top of the cpu QYFS without first looking in some manuals. But luckly nothing got broken, except my confidence so i humbled myself and looked some video, and voila. But....
My question about the post above is if the windows hang was solved by the bios tweak for all bios versions (and is there some other setting to fix) or is it only up to 0403?
On my Asus w790-ace was already the 0705 bios, i did the bios tweak (C-States from Auto to enabled, Package C-State from Auto to C2) Then could load ubuntu life, did not try the install (maybe i will later).
But windows 10 pro install hanged at startup. Now i rolled back the bios to 0403. And it was possible to install windows.
So is it only working for bios 0403? or should it also work up to 0705 and did i miss some other setting, that i could not find or did not think of?
During some of the restarts in the process, sometimes the computer would not post and i got some F0 code.
When i tried to flash the bios, i also got a restart one time. Not so confident about the set up yet, but still early.
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My settings. QYFS, BIOS 08.05 (latest at this moment), Windows 11 Pro - no problem at all. I had problems with 07.05 - memory overclock did not work. With 08/05 i see no problem here. Although the m.2 RAID ussie still not fixed - as long as system starts up and the VROC assembles the RAID0 from my two m.2 SSDs the HDD activity LED goes on and stays on forewer. If i turn VROC off LED accurately shows activity on them. Weird. But whatever.
Thanks for the screenshots both of you!
Before i saw these i tried a zillioin combinations yesterday, and only got in windows 10 with C-states disabled on bios 0705. Memory overclock was also not working for me, in bios 0705 all the time some F0 error, black screen at start up, it just worked at the stock 4800 but no 5200 or 5600 on my fury pro 5600. Mem overclock was also not working at bios 0403, i also saw the newer bios, 0805 but i was affraid to try...thinking: what if i cant post, i would not know how to ever get the old bios back again? Is it possible or were you just so courageous to try? Or do you have another cpu to reset things? or does bios flash always work?
I am no overclocker, but when things are new i like to know max performance, and then later run it safer with some margin. With 4800 mem speed 2 x 32gb sticks or 4 sticks i cant get over 59k CB 23. And then i am already using some thermal settings, that i rather not use on the long term. On the other hand Power draw during benchmarks never gets above 380W even if i raise the limits. Intel software optimization raises the limits to 500W or so. With Balanced power settings i get around 54K CB R23. But i saw people getting scores much higher 67k, even reported 63k single socket 2 sticks on GIGABYTE MS73, thus also with stock memory speeds (4800Mhz). With 2 sticks Fury pro at 4800 my mem speed read is 67GB/s in Aida64, wich is about 1/4 of what JosefHrib had with 8 sticks of FURY Renegade Pro 6000MHz. I will try the new 0805 bios later today.
Before i saw these i tried a zillioin combinations yesterday, and only got in windows 10 with C-states disabled on bios 0705. Memory overclock was also not working for me, in bios 0705 all the time some F0 error, black screen at start up, it just worked at the stock 4800 but no 5200 or 5600 on my fury pro 5600. Mem overclock was also not working at bios 0403, i also saw the newer bios, 0805 but i was affraid to try...thinking: what if i cant post, i would not know how to ever get the old bios back again? Is it possible or were you just so courageous to try? Or do you have another cpu to reset things? or does bios flash always work?
I am no overclocker, but when things are new i like to know max performance, and then later run it safer with some margin. With 4800 mem speed 2 x 32gb sticks or 4 sticks i cant get over 59k CB 23. And then i am already using some thermal settings, that i rather not use on the long term. On the other hand Power draw during benchmarks never gets above 380W even if i raise the limits. Intel software optimization raises the limits to 500W or so. With Balanced power settings i get around 54K CB R23. But i saw people getting scores much higher 67k, even reported 63k single socket 2 sticks on GIGABYTE MS73, thus also with stock memory speeds (4800Mhz). With 2 sticks Fury pro at 4800 my mem speed read is 67GB/s in Aida64, wich is about 1/4 of what JosefHrib had with 8 sticks of FURY Renegade Pro 6000MHz. I will try the new 0805 bios later today.
keep in mind you have ES and there is always a silicon lottery. even prod.unit X/K models are binned by some sellers.
Don't believe any statistics that you haven't falsified yourself
with old GPU i rised BCLK to 109mhz and got higher results. but don't work with actual GPU (PCIe clock rises too)
True, true. For example I myself previously owned one piece i9-13900K, and two pieces i9-13900KS. And the first piece of i9-13900KS was worse than the normal Non-S variant.
If you want, so you can pickup my results CBR23 as standart (+-). Because I set only ram modules to xmp1 and under win11 cpu to performance mode. Zero BCLK OC. Because I used my QYFS with only these GPUs RTX3080Ti,RTX3090, and now RTX4090. And all these GPUs not love any BCLK OC. black screen.
Yes i was doing that, and negatively amazed about my relatively poor performance. I got only 59K CBR23 so far. But in general its still a very powerful cpu. but over 10% difference still seems quite a lot.
Yes i know about the silicon lottery and benchmark beautification
. Still i would trust the benchmarks i saw here on the forum from users. I do not really want to go BLCK, if i have time i would play with undervolting, and thermal settings.Bios 0805, is working, but memory overclocks still only work manually. XMP not working get some unknown f0 error with almost any setting apart from 4800MHz.
With 4x32GB Fury pro 5600 manual, timings i get 56K in CBR23 Aida6 Memory reas speed is now 114GB/s about 2x more as with 2 sticks. and now about half of the 235GB/s JosefHrib got. Which was interesting because, i thought that theoretically for 4 channels 4 RDIMMS of 1Rx4 should be better than 8 RDIMMS, because besides overclocking according to officiall specifications with 2Dimms per channel speed reduces to 4400, instead of 4800 (at least that is how i understood it).
But with 8 sticks and 4 channels JosefHrib still has double the bandwidth. So probably i misunderstood something. Maybe the difference is also 1Rx8 vs 1Rx4? I am very curious if someone with an 8 channel board, and 8 dimms could run AIDA64 and see the bandwidth? Would that then be double of the 235GB/s?
EDIT: JosefHrib i went trough your screenshots again, did you notice this?
It says Octa channel with yours! Maybe the mainboards only specify 4-channel because the cpu's they officially support are up to 4 Channels but with these they might be actually 8?
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