(US) 90 dollar Wyse 5070 Thin client/mini-server?

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bitslinger

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Anyone slap a 140mm fan on top to help with cooling? Mine gets quite hot (particularly the SSD) when downloading large files. Should I power it with a USB to fan header adapter, or is there some way to use the serial port for power?
Is you system standing up? the docs state that it must be vertical for proper cooling. On its side, it overheats under load. A fan is a good idea in that case.
 
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There are 2 options of reusing the WLAN port (m.2 a+e) to connect more drives.

One of the adapters gives you single PCIe lane NVME (M.2 key M), so it seems to be a pług&Play solution.

Another adapter has a SATA controller and 2 SATA ports, so you rely on the SATA controller quality. Also in this case you need to somehow power your drive(s), for example using internal USB pins.

I wonder if anyone tried to boot from a drive connected via any of those adapter. It's crucial if you'd like to setup boot disk mirroring in Proxmox.
 
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That looks like a nice self-contained unit. And just need the SATA Power and mini-SAS cable.
I’m using a cage like this that was inside a tower server case and fits a fan on the front.

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As this may grow in the future towards a larger dedicated storage server, I’ve got already an actual Corsair modular SFX PSU which is pretty small and the fan never runs with the current load. Being modular, I can just use the SATA power cable connected to the drives.
Because it’s not connected to a motherboard, you need a jumper between 2 pins or use something like this (on the 24-pin ATX):
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005004045090030.html
Having found this page while looking up on the internet for DIY NAS in general and Wyse 5070 in particular I suspect there may be an easier solution to external SATA power:

If I understand this correctly, this thing takes a 12VDC barrel jack (at up to 200W, so you need a decent external power brick) for power and spits out two SATA power supplies (max 54W each, apparently that's enough for 5 hard drives each). It's controlled by two methods: either you plug in a PCIE 8pin plug (max 150W) in which case it doesn't need the DC jack and just uses that, and naturally only gets power when the main PC is on, or alternatively it has a "synchronous start interface" which takes a Berg connector that use to be found on floppy drives and it uses that to tell if the main PC is on or off and uses that to turn itself on or off.

On Wyse 5070 there's an empty spot that used for a 4 pin PWM fan header on the extended version. If we wire up a fan header to that spot we should be able to take off 12v from there. Then if we wire up the other end with a Berg connector the 12V on its own may be enough to control the external SATA power supply. If the SATA power supply insists on checking both the 12V and 5V line in the Berg connector we could always take 5V from one of the USB ports.

Has anyone had any luck adding a 4 pin PWM fan header to a non-extended Wyse 5070? If for nothing else it would be interesting to use it for a fan with CPU temperature controlled fan curve.
 
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Having found this page while looking up on the internet for DIY NAS in general and Wyse 5070 in particular I suspect there may be an easier solution to external SATA power:

If I understand this correctly, this thing takes a 12VDC barrel jack (at up to 200W, so you need a decent external power brick) for power and spits out two SATA power supplies (max 54W each, apparently that's enough for 5 hard drives each). It's controlled by two methods: either you plug in a PCIE 8pin plug (max 150W) in which case it doesn't need the DC jack and just uses that, and naturally only gets power when the main PC is on, or alternatively it has a "synchronous start interface" which takes a Berg connector that use to be found on floppy drives and it uses that to tell if the main PC is on or off and uses that to turn itself on or off.

On Wyse 5070 there's an empty spot that used for a 4 pin PWM fan header on the extended version. If we wire up a fan header to that spot we should be able to take off 12v from there. Then if we wire up the other end with a Berg connector the 12V on its own may be enough to control the external SATA power supply. If the SATA power supply insists on checking both the 12V and 5V line in the Berg connector we could always take 5V from one of the USB ports.

Has anyone had any luck adding a 4 pin PWM fan header to a non-extended Wyse 5070? If for nothing else it would be interesting to use it for a fan with CPU temperature controlled fan curve.
Back in the day, we used to use a 6-strip with a master switch to handle powering everything up at once. ;) Cheap simple tech that always works. :)
 
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Back in the day, we used to use a 6-strip with a master switch to handle powering everything up at once. ;) Cheap simple tech that always works. :)
I think I still have a couple of those platforms you set your monitor on (CRT) with a row of switches underneath. You could pretend you were flying the spase shuttle. LOL
 
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I think I still have a couple of those platforms you set your monitor on (CRT) with a row of switches underneath. You could pretend you were flying the spase shuttle. LOL
Yep! Made it easy to switch stuff on and off. They still work with an LCD, and also work great in a rack. :D
 
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Proxmox VE's 6.8.12.x kernel, its driver for the stock realtek NIC is more stable than the previous 6.x.x kernel of PVE.
 
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Just scored about 6 of these out of a dumpster, BIOS is easily cleared and they work with 256GB SK Hynix M.2 drives.

Seriously tempted to downgrade my overpowered opnsense machine to one of these, though the lack of IPMI / AMT vs a HP Elite 800 is a little painful.

Wish I could at least remotely turn off and on easily through some kind of trickery.
 
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Just scored about 6 of these out of a dumpster, BIOS is easily cleared and they work with 256GB SK Hynix M.2 drives.

Seriously tempted to downgrade my overpowered opnsense machine to one of these, though the lack of IPMI / AMT vs a HP Elite 800 is a little painful.

Wish I could at least remotely turn off and on easily through some kind of trickery.
Nice score! You can try using wol to power it up and shut it down remotely.
 

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Just scored about 6 of these out of a dumpster, BIOS is easily cleared and they work with 256GB SK Hynix M.2 drives.

Seriously tempted to downgrade my overpowered opnsense machine to one of these, though the lack of IPMI / AMT vs a HP Elite 800 is a little painful.

Wish I could at least remotely turn off and on easily through some kind of trickery.
You can also try a KVM solution with Raspberry Pi 4, but it is a big investment comparing to these wyse 5070 thin clients.
Something like BliKVM HAT or BliKVM CM4, or original PiKVM, depends on which solution's cost is lower.

Below video list is a BliKVM series:
Below video is for PiKVM v4:
 
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Anyone have issues with wake-on-lan no longer working? Used to work fine, but after two recent power outages it stopped working for me. I haven't changed any bios settings
 
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So I've deployed my Wyse 5070 as a new Opnsense replacement, it's actually working very well, even with the onboard realtek, without the official realtek plugin AND a USB based NIC (WAN)

At least for testing anyhow.

I'm curious if anyone knows internally if there's a jumper to power the thing?
So I could use one of these with it?


Thanks Wendel Level 1 for the recent video on it.
 
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What do you mean? So that it automatically turns on after power loss?
No a physical power on jumped, giving me the ability to turn it on with a KVM with ATX control leads.

I am guessing I can unplug the actual power switch and wire something up?
 
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There's always power on by keyboard or mouse if the BIOS has this capability. Most do.
 
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This is more about full IPMI power control, if it crashes, power it off and back on, remotely.
Then IPMI is what you need. Years ago Supermicro offered add in IPMI controllers for their MBs that didn't have it. But they required a proprietary slot. It's a shame there isn't one that fits in a standard PCIe slot.
 
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