Everyone's next boot drive S3500 480GB $120

Patrick

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@nle I have seen numbers from a few server resellers. Intel SSDs <0.3% return/ warranty rate. Samsung 850 EVO > 8% on the same spreadsheet.
 
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Probably a stupid question, but how does this compare to consumer grade SSDs like Samsung EVO 860/960?
The S3500 offers power-loss protection, which lets the drive write pending data & shut down correctly when it loses power.
 
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nle

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Great answers, thank you. Now to see if someone ships (reasonably) to Norway.
 

Evan

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@nle I have seen numbers from a few server resellers. Intel SSDs <0.3% return/ warranty rate. Samsung 850 EVO > 8% on the same spreadsheet.
@Patrick i don’t doubt it but I am surprised.
Not a scientific study but I think I have seem more dead intel than samsung, Sandisk, toshiba, hgst where I work , but again it’s all enterprise drives be they sata or sas, I can confirm less than 0.3% AFR, much less actually, but we don’t thrash them even as cache drives for vsan they don’t really get a workout. Still very very few ssd failures in last 5 years, nothing stands out as really failing more than another.

Now we move to all flash based SAN’s will be interesting to see how they do long term but can’t compare to anything off the shelf as these are custom made flash modules consisting of micron nand and vendor controllers.
 

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@nle I have seen numbers from a few server resellers. Intel SSDs <0.3% return/ warranty rate. Samsung 850 EVO > 8% on the same spreadsheet.
Do you think it could be that when people buy Intel they "know" they need it due to the way higher cost?
 

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I have asked about this. It just seems like those consumer drives in servers failed way more often.

And at sub 0.3% AFR I think a lot of people discount the fact it is 10x better than disk.
 

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The number of ssd deals coming up as of late is really nice to see. I think once capacities increase and the sas variants become more available, they'll definitely start to even eat up some of the bulk storage market.

In just a quick search, I even found 2tb versions of the s4500 in the cdw outlet for not much more than the OP ebay units:
INTEL DC S4500 1.92TB SATA 2.5IN SSD - SSDSC2KB019T701-BSTK - Z - CDW Internal Use/Service Pts - CDW.com
INTEL DC S4500 1.92TB SATA 2.5IN SSD - SSDSC2KB019T701-BSTK - Z - CDW Internal Use/Service Pts - CDW.com
INTEL DC S4500 1.92TB SATA 2.5IN SSD - SSDSC2KB019T701-BSTK - Z - CDW Internal Use/Service Pts - CDW.com
Never ordered from CDW outlet before. Anyone have experience with them?
 

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One of my Techyparts intel dc S3500s wouldn’t pass preclear on unraid.

It’s being swapped out though.
 

nle

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Ended up buying the 800 gb version to use for VM's.

Now I just have to wait for it to show up.
 

sybreeder

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That's strange that basically those drives are only available in USA only.. By pure luck i've managed to find one 480GB in very good condition in my coutry but that was the only one that i could find. Fortunately that price was similar to that from USA + shipping and import costs. Either Way S3500 works great as a basic VM drive :)
 

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I just don't want to risk it, we built high quality servers. I don't want to put a used drive in the system drive, although our system drive isn't really in use during production, it's mostly the raid Array, I still want a solid Samsung Pro SSD. I feel better, in my mind i feel like hard\dirty shutdowns are handled better with a brand new Samsung Pro SSD.
 

sybreeder

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I just don't want to risk it, we built high quality servers. I don't want to put a used drive in the system drive, although our system drive isn't really in use during production, it's mostly the raid Array, I still want a solid Samsung Pro SSD. I feel better, in my mind i feel like hard\dirty shutdowns are handled better with a brand new Samsung Pro SSD.
But 850 Pro and probably 860 Pro doesn't have power loss protection as the S3500 has. Also S3500 has higher endurance. So in my mind S3500 is better choice. Especially for VM and homelab. Even used one.
 

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Correct. 850 / 860 Pro are still consumer graded SSDs. While we found them reliable enough for production use in RAID arrays, they can not be compared to actual server grade hardware, neither are more reliable.
 

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How do VMs fare with lower random reads or write on a drive such as this? (11k write, 75k read)? Looking to replace a smaller 840 EVO 120GB drive for more VMs, but i was looking at buying a m.2 RD400 or equivalent that does 210k read, 140k writes.
 

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Trying to decide between getting two of these or the crucial mx500 500gb for the same price to run some home vms.