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I'm a bit tempted by the Xeon W-3300 CPUs since they turbo higher than the SPs, and I don't really need a ton of cores.

This thread
makes me optimistic that I can have a QS working in a Supermicro X12SPM board.


There is a bunch of W-3345 QS floating around on eBay. The pictured ones are SRKSU, like the final retail chip. This is standard for QS, right?

Any idea if these QS W-3345s will work in the X12SPM with latest BIOS? Or if I'm missing something?
 
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ironhamster said:
There is a bunch of W-3345 QS floating around on eBay. The pictured ones are SRKSU, like the final retail chip. This is standard for QS, right?
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no, not a pic of cpu you get. QS = "Intel Confidential - Qxxx" like other ES

Intel Xeon W-3375 IceLake QXZL 57MB 38c 2.5 GHz 4.0 GHz 270W DDR4-3200
Intel Xeon W-3365 IceLake QXZK 48MB 32c 2.7 GHz 4.0 GHz 270W DDR4-3200
Intel Xeon W-3345 IceLake QXZJ 36MB 24c 3.0 GHz 4.0 GHz 250W DDR4-3200
Intel Xeon W-3335 IceLake QXQS 24MB 16c 3.4 GHz 4.0 GHz 250W DDR4-3200
Intel Xeon W-3323 IceLake QXQQ 21MB 12c 3.5 GHz 3.9 GHz 220W DDR4-3200
 
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ironhamster said:
There is a bunch of W-3345 QS floating around on eBay.
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ielectronics_alteratethis is very optimistic LOL
The Intel Xeon W-3345 is a server/workstation processor with 24 cores, launched in July 2021. It is part of the Xeon W lineup, using the Ice Lake-W architecture with Socket 4189. Thanks to Intel Hyper-Threading the core-count is effectively doubled, to 48 threads. To further increase overall system performance, up to two Xeon W-3345 CPUs can link up in a multi-processor (SMP) configuration.
 
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RolloZ170 said:
should work. at least ASRock SPC621 boards have Xeon W-3300 in the supported list of CPU.

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gigabyte MU72-SU0 supports

3rd Gen Intel® Xeon® Scalable Processors
Intel® Xeon® W-3300 Processors
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Interesting. Supermicro were not as optimistic when I contracted them to ask if putting a W-3300 in a X12SPM/X12SPZ would work. :) The response I got was:

We actually don’t know, it’s not tested and we haven’t come to an opportunity to test it ourselves or hear from other customers who have tried it.

I do say however that Intel segregates their platforms more and more to push customers into specific combinations, for that reason I think the motherboards will simply not POST with the CPU.





Also, I don't know if I can conclude anything from this, but comparing the microcode from the BIOS of the X12SPA-TF (which does officially support W-3300) with X12SPM:

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It seems they support the same CPUs?
 
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I do not have any SM boards of that generation. Being an ASRock fanboy the only reason for me having any SM boards was that 4th gen ASRock board was delayed so I had to buy SM X13 to test my processors :) And even that board is gone now - I’m switching to ASRock soon so I gave my SM setup for my daughters workstation.
 
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ironhamster said:
We actually don’t know, it’s not tested and we haven’t come to an opportunity to test it ourselves or hear from other customers who have tried it.
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What kind of answers did you expect to receive from SM?:D
when I sent them the MOBO for repair, where there was a problem on their part, they answered me:
"We tried to fix it but couldn't, our engineer decided that it was beyond repair"
As if I sent it for repairs to some workshop where newbies sit:D:D:D
 
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ironhamster said:
Interesting. Supermicro were not as optimistic when I contracted them to ask if putting a W-3300 in a X12SPM/X12SPZ would work. :) The response I got was:

We actually don’t know, it’s not tested and we haven’t come to an opportunity to test it ourselves or hear from other customers who have tried it.

I do say however that Intel segregates their platforms more and more to push customers into specific combinations, for that reason I think the motherboards will simply not POST with the CPU.





Also, I don't know if I can conclude anything from this, but comparing the microcode from the BIOS of the X12SPA-TF (which does officially support W-3300) with X12SPM:

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It seems they support the same CPUs?
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Guys, tell me, I downloaded this version MC Extractor v1.96.0 r279 on GitHub
but nothing works for me when I drag and drop the BIOS into MCE.py
can't open anything
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Guys, tell me, I downloaded this version MC Extractor v1.96.0 r279 on GitHub
but nothing works for me when I drag and drop the BIOS into MCE.py
can't open anything
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you need to install python and some required modules.
read MCU.txt
Code: 
now Do I Open a Terminal Window in a Folder?
Open the folder you wish to open the command prompt window from.
Type cmd into the location bar at the top of the window and tap enter.
The command prompt will now be opened in the desired location.

Fixed:

Install Python 3.9.0 with

1) Set "PATH"
2) Set "py Launcher"
3) Set "Associate"

Open an admin command prompt in:

C:\Users\****\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python39\

where **** is your windows username.

and run:

python -m pip install --upgrade pip


In:

C:\Users\****\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python39\Scripts\

admin command prompt and run:

pip3 install colorama PLTable

Then in the same command prompt run:

pip3 install prettytable

Now you have the latest v1.0.2 PLTable and pip and will get no MCE errors in UBU Tool.
 
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AVID-MEDIA said:
Guys, tell me, I downloaded this version MC Extractor v1.96.0 r279 on GitHub
but nothing works for me when I drag and drop the BIOS into MCE.py
can't open anything
View attachment 35076
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As RolloZ170 said, you're probably missing some dependencies. Try running:

$ pip3 install colorama
$ pip3 install pltable

It prompted me to install those. Otherwise, try running it from the terminal and see what it complains about...
 
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Hello there!

What a fantastic thread. I've been curious about the Sapphire Rapids Engineering Sample (ES) versions and have been searching for information, but I'm still somewhat confused. I spend a significant amount of time compiling code on my machine (UE C++ and shaders, Linux packages, etc.). As you can imagine, I would greatly benefit from a powerful Xeon processor.

My question is as follows: I've noticed some Intel Xeon Platinum 8468 (D0 revision) chips for sale on eBay. Which motherboard would be most suitable in this case? Additionally, what drawbacks should I expect from using an ES chip as opposed to a retail chip?

Thank you!
 
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pisiiki said:
My question is as follows: I've noticed some Intel Xeon Platinum 8468 (D0 revision) chips for sale on eBay. Which motherboard would be most suitable in this case?
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this is D0 stepping, microcodes have revisions.
gigabyte C741 motherboards.
ASUS W790 boards (only D0 supported, not E0 and up)
 
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