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This is for my personal setup. I'll be engaging in gaming and hobby projects. This includes compiling Unreal Engine from almost scratch multiple times a day and experimenting with deep learning. At work, I have a Threadripper PRO 5995WX with 256GB of RAM, which builds significantly faster than any consumer CPU. The "affordable" ES Xeons caught my eye because, after deciding to replace my PC, I thought it would be wise to invest a bit more instead of blindly opting for a Z790/14900K setup. I prefer to spend a bit more money if it means saving time on builds or training. I will keep this machine for about 3 years or so I guess.
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Before QYFS I had AMD Threadripper PRO 5965WX 24cores 48threads + ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI I
with 8x64GB Samsung DDR3 3200MHz and XFX Speedster SWFT 319 AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT.
And for me is Intel QYFS is better. :)
 
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JosefHrib said:
Before QYFS I had AMD Threadripper PRO 5965WX 24cores 48threads + ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI I
with 8x64GB Samsung DDR3 3200MHz and XFX Speedster SWFT 319 AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT.
And for me is Intel QYFS is better. :)
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First of all, thank you to everyone for the advice. I was able to make a decision quickly and have already ordered the SAGE SE and the QYFS. The only component I'm still looking for is the RAM. I was planning on 8x16GB. After some research, I've learned that dual rank 16GB modules do not exist, which means I'll need to opt for 32GB modules I guess.

I have spotted this modules: Samsung Registered DDR5 5600. I have seen that the renegade units are very popular here but those are single rank.

I guess I'm not missing something obvious right?
 
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ardabilal

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RolloZ170 said:
which 8490H ES ?
8490H ES step 3 D0 QYFX = no ( or with unofficial BIOS 1.0 is full of bugs - you can't downgrade, needs soldering )
8490H ES step 4 E0 Q03J = yes.
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Thanks !
i think this is ok , i will buy 2pcs today.
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ardabilal said:
i think this is ok , i will buy 2pcs today.
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There are about 2-3 sellers who sell them on ebay:
One you've mentioned, and as well those people:
1. Intel Xeon Platinum 8490H ES S4 1.6-.5ghz 60C/120T server cpu support ms73 hb1 | eBay
2. Intel Xeon Platinum 8490H ES Q03J 60C 120T 1.9GHz LGA4189 112.5MB 350W 4800MT | eBay

Probably more, but you basically need to inspect all the offers.

Just remember - you can try negotiating with them and maybe lower the price by 30-40$ if you buy more than one things for them. The more you buy the better discount
 
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Civiloid

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ardabilal said:
After this i will buy cpu from ebay.
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Just keep in mind, that unless ES/QS have same stepping as production version of CPU nobody will be able to guarantee you that it won't have grave bugs or that it would work reliably for any amount of time. E0 and E5 are differs by 5 minor revisions and there were bugs fixed between them, just nobody(?) figured out what they were or those who did have NDA signed with some one that prevents them from talking about that (in most big tech companies you probably would have people who seen the list of fixed bugs)
 
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Just keep in mind, that unless ES/QS have same stepping as production version of CPU nobody will be able to guarantee you that it won't have grave bugs or that it would work reliably for any amount of time. E0 and E5 are differs by 5 minor revisions and there were bugs fixed between them, just nobody(?) figured out what they were or those who did have NDA signed with some one that prevents them from talking about that (in most big tech companies you probably would have people who seen the list of fixed bugs)
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nobody expects early engineering samples to be free of bugs,while prod.units still have some.
If no one tries, no one can know.
those who buy such cannot afford a production unit.
 
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RolloZ170 said:
those who buy such cannot afford a production unit.
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Yeah, I probably misunderstood what he meant. Sorry.

But basically yeah, I agree with what you said, just still worth reminding so people shouldn't try to use it in production or if they are - they should prepare for all kind of problems. Also I still wonder if people already found some behavioral difference between D0, E0, E3 and E5 steppings?
 
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