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pducharme

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Hi, I just bought a 45homelab Full Build that come with a Supermicro X11SPH-nCTF Motherboard and an Intel Xeon Bronze 3204. I would like to plan a CPU upgrade to a beefier CPU and came across the Intel Xeon Platinum 8272CL (2.60GHz), 26-Core SRF89 on Ebay. I know that the board is advertised to support CPU up-to 205W and that the 8272CL is at 195W. My thinking is that it should be working, but before buying, I also came across this thread and saw the TDC 255W etc.

Is anyone know if that Xeon Platinum 8272CL would work out-of-the-box on the HL15's motherboard that come from 45drives/45homelab Full build ?
 

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I know that the board is advertised to support CPU up-to 205W and that the 8272CL is at 195W. My thinking is that it should be working, but before buying, I also came across this thread and saw the TDC 255W etc.
Supermicro non OEM X11 LGA3647 boards support TDC up to 228A (default) need VRM modd for 8272CL.
 

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Supermicro non OEM X11 LGA3647 boards support TDC up to 228A (default) need VRM modd for 8272CL.
Is this the same for 8259CL ? Looking for a cheap path to lots of cores and not slow single core. Any other alternative in the price range of 250-300$USD on ebay you think of? Or, for a total noob, is this easy to the the VRM mod or I would need to send the board to an expert like you? :)
 

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Just came across this thread at the perfect time, was about to buy an ES Xeon with D0 and was just expecting it to work with any motherboard.

Anyways I was looking at a Intel Xeon Platinum 8470 ES (CPU Z below from seller) and wanted to use it with a ASRock Rack SPC741D8UD-2T/X550 motherboard, I don't see the stepping code so I'm hoping their won't be any compatibility issues b/c I need micro atx motherboard for a project I'm working on, am I missing something or will this work without any funky workarounds

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Just came across this thread at the perfect time, was about to buy an ES Xeon with D0 and was just expecting it to work with any motherboard.
only Gigabyte and ASUS W790 boards (yes realy)
Tyan, Supermicro and ASRock Rack support only E-Stepping processors.
Anyways I was looking at a Intel Xeon Platinum 8470 ES (CPU Z below from seller) and wanted to use it with a ASRock Rack SPC741D8UD-2T/X550 motherboard, I don't see the stepping code so I'm hoping their won't be any compatibility issues b/c I need micro atx motherboard for a project I'm working on, am I missing something or will this work without any funky workarounds

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step id 4 is cpuid 806F4 = stepping E0
should run on any C741 motherboard.
 

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only Gigabyte and ASUS W790 boards (yes realy)
Tyan, Supermicro and ASRock Rack support only E-Stepping processors.

step id 4 is cpuid 806F4 = stepping E0
should run on any C741 motherboard.
Thank you man! Saved my biscuit there from spending another 700$ on ES cpu. I was going to mod the bios for X13SEM-TF but it appears that I can hold off with just getting E0 stepping.
 

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I was going to mod the bios for X13SEM-TF but it appears that I can hold off with just getting E0 stepping.
you can not mod supermicro X13 C741 (RoT protected) BIOS. if you change just one Bit, the security validations fails and the BIOS is restored from Backup.
 

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you can not mod supermicro X13 C741 (RoT protected) BIOS. if you change just one Bit, the security validations fails and the BIOS is restored from Backup.
I've modded dual bioses on HP but that might be different with SM.
Is RoT check against second bios chip? Have you tried to mod two at same time?
 

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I've modded dual bioses on HP but that might be different with SM.
Is RoT check against second bios chip? Have you tried to mod two at same time?
the check is cryptographical nature with Private Key. if you have the supermicro Private Key you just have to re.sign the modded BIOS.
but i doubt you will get the PK.
edit: after BIOS restore of the BIOS flash, the content is validated again. no chance.
 
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the check is cryptographical nature with Private Key. if you have the supermicro Private Key you just have to re.sign the modded BIOS.
but i doubt you will get the PK.
edit: after BIOS restore of the BIOS flash, the content is validated again. no chance.
Oh thats rough. I am glad that I pinged you here before getting burned on any attempts.
 
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hello. Greetings from Korea.

After secretly spying on this thread and studying hard over the past few months, I also managed to configure an Intel QYFQ + GIGABYTE MS73.

It has been working well for two months now. First of all, I would like to share that QYFQ works well with the most recent F21 BIOS+13.05.07 Firmware.

Actually, I have a problem. I signed up today and wrote a post because I was wondering if there was someone else going through the same situation as me.

So far, I am running Windows 10 Pro. And now, I'm trying to upgrade it to Windows 11 Pro, but I can't proceed.

When I burn the *.iso file onto a UEFI USB and boot it, I see a BSOD before even seeing the installation screen. The main error contents are as follows.
Stop code: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL / What failed: ntoskrnl.exe

It's like a kernel panic, but I don't know why it's happening.
I thought there was an error with the add-on card, so I removed everything and plugged in only the storage devices (SATA/NVME), CPU RAM, VGA keyboard, mouse, and OS USB, but I couldn't get rid of the error. I even tried replacing the USB just in case.
Of course, if I test it on another PC with the same USB, it works without problem.

Everyone at Google said there might be an error in RAM, but there was nothing detected in memtest86. Also, like me, there were a few posts saying that an error occurred as soon as they tried to install the OS. There was no proper reply, so it was not helpful information.

Could it be due to the absence of the TPM module?

I know there are several people who use the same configuration as me. I'm looking for advice from people who have tried installing Windows 11 or know how to solve the same error as me. If I'm in the wrong thread, it would be great if you could point me to another place.
 

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it would be great if you could point me to another place.
i have MS33-AR0 and a QYFQ should be not that different from MS73, i create installatin media for W11 now and check whats happening, hold the line.
So far, I am running Windows 10 Pro. And now, I'm trying to upgrade it to Windows 11 Pro, but I can't proceed.



When I burn the *.iso file onto a UEFI USB and boot it, I see a BSOD before even seeing the installation screen. The main error contents are as follows.

Stop code: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL / What failed: ntoskrnl.exe
USB media with Win11 booted but i got no picture with BMC VGA monitor.

after installation of a PCIe GPU i got picture and tried to install..

"PC currently does not meet the minimum requirements to run Windows 11"

MS33 BIOS support TPM v1.2 only, so i think this is the first issue.

i know on the ASUS W790 Ace & SAGE SE and QYFQ windows 11 is possible, BIOS supports TPM 2.0( without module )
When I burn the *.iso file onto a UEFI USB and boot it, I see a BSOD before even seeing the installation screen. The main error contents are as follows.

Stop code: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL / What failed: ntoskrnl.exe
Could it be due to the absence of the TPM module?
no, you should only see "PC currently does not meet the minimum requirements to run Windows 11"

create USB media with microsoft mediacreationtool
edit:
w. only TPM 1.2 you can update to w11 from w10 with a registry tweak
 
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i have MS33-AR0 and a QYFQ should be not that different from MS73, i create installatin media for W11 now and check whats happening, hold the line.


USB media with Win11 booted but i got no picture with BMC VGA monitor.

after installation of a PCIe GPU i got picture and tried to install..

"PC currently does not meet the minimum requirements to run Windows 11"

MS33 BIOS support TPM v1.2 only, so i think this is the first issue.

i know on the ASUS W790 Ace & SAGE SE and QYFQ windows 11 is possible, BIOS supports TPM 2.0( without module )




no, you should only see "PC currently does not meet the minimum requirements to run Windows 11"

create USB media with microsoft mediacreationtool
edit:
w. only TPM 1.2 you can update to w11 from w10 with a registry tweak

Thank you very much for taking the time to test it.

As you said, I also saw data showing that TPM2.0 for the W790 series works well without installing a separate module. W11 is also installed. However, it was very difficult to find data on W11 running on the C741.

Like the MS33, my MS73 only supports up to TPM1.2 without a module.

However, the difference between RolloZ and me is that I could not even see the message. ( = "PC currently does not meet the minimum requirements to run Windows 11" ) When that message appears, we can force install it by modifying it a little with REGEDIT. It's true, but...


This is what happens when I try to install W11 on my MS73.

After completing the BIOS post -> Press the F10 key to select the OS USB device -> The loading part spins around and then a BSOD appears immediately.

If I buy a TPM module and test it, I would be able to check something right away, but it is not easy to find a TPM module called CTM010 in this area. And actually, I'm not sure that it's a TPM problem more than anything else. However, there are no other parts that are suspicious.

Once again, thank you very much for your time and help. Before purchasing a TPM module, I will continue to check to see if there are any other problems. If anything comes to mind, please let me know. I will be greatly appreciated.
 

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However, the difference between RolloZ and me is that I could not even see the message. ( = "PC currently does not meet the minimum requirements to run Windows 11" ) When that message appears, we can force install it by modifying it a little with REGEDIT. It's true, but...


This is what happens when I try to install W11 on my MS73.

After completing the BIOS post -> Press the F10 key to select the OS USB device -> The loading part spins around and then a BSOD appears immediately.
your media is corrupt. create USB directly media with mediacreationtool, NOT burn iso to usb disk
 

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your media is corrupt. create USB directly media with mediacreationtool, NOT burn iso to usb disk
your media is corrupt. create USB directly media with mediacreationtool, NOT burn iso to usb disk
Yes, I like the stock OS, so I tried it first using the program provided by MS. But there was the same error.

That didn't work, so I downloaded the ISO file from the program and uploaded it to USB using Refus, but the same problem occurred.

After that, I burned several tweak OS iso files for several days, and this shows the Windows installation process
but when I reboot after that, the IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error message welcomes me again. Instead, the difference from before is that the What failed: ntoskrnl.exe message disappears.

W11_22H2 doesn't work, so I tried using W11_21H2, but the problem still persists. This is really sad.
 

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Yes, I like the stock OS, so I tried it first using the program provided by MS. But there was the same error.

That didn't work, so I downloaded the ISO file from the program and uploaded it to USB using Refus, but the same problem occurred.

After that, I burned several tweak OS iso files for several days, and this shows the Windows installation process
but when I reboot after that, the IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error message welcomes me again. Instead, the difference from before is that the What failed: ntoskrnl.exe message disappears.

W11_22H2 doesn't work, so I tried using W11_21H2, but the problem still persists. This is really sad.
tried the USB in other PC ? i used sandisk 128GB stick.
maybe you have 4GB faked to 16GB USB stick ??