LGA 1700 Alder Lake "Servers"

yeryer

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I'm not sure why I couldn't get Server 2022 to install but I did get Server 2019 installed. Hopefully I'll be able to find drivers for the two ethernet controllers. That's a common hurdle with running Windows Server on a different motherboard and not a strike against the X13SAE-F.
 

nabsltd

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I've tried installing from a Rufus USB drive and the installer fails with "a required device isn't connected or can't be accessed"
This means that the Windows installer can't find the USB drive that you booted off. Silly, huh?

Try plugging into different USB ports, since many Supermicro motherboards have 2 different USB controllers. That didn't work for me, though on my X11SRA (completely different chipset, though), and eventually I used Rufus to write the Windows install to a 2.5" SATA SSD, and booted from that. Then, I could install to whatever device I wanted.

You could also download the driver CD and add the drivers for the chipset and USB (and more if you want) to the Windows install image (instructions).
 

yeryer

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I tried a couple thumb drives with the 2022 installation attempts but both encountered the same error. I still figure it must have been something particular to my PNY and SeeDete drives. I can say that every Supermicro driver installed smoothly with Server 2019. That's a relief because attempting that on an AsRock or Asus consumer board involves lots of hurdles to force install the drivers.

Then I was able to upgrade to Server 2022 easily from within windows.
 

MrBios

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Has anyone installed Windows Server on a X13SAE-F? It's not exactly on the compatibility chart but Windows 11 is. I've tried installing from a Rufus USB drive and the installer fails with "a required device isn't connected or can't be accessed"

Due to lack of stock I picked up an open box board from Provantage and it may have issues. There's no video output with a 12900K installed but at least the IPMI works.
Have installed win 2019 and 2022 no issues.

installed it via IPMI using ISO.
 

mrmh

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What is your PCH temperature on X13SAE?

Mine is 80 degrees of Celsius, all M.2 slots are populated with Samsung 980 Pro.
Idle state (watching BIOS temperature readings for 6 hours and it was oscillating around 80 degrees).
Motherboard is on my desk, not in a case.
 

mirrormax

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What is your PCH temperature on X13SAE?

Mine is 80 degrees of Celsius, all M.2 slots are populated with Samsung 980 Pro.
Idle state (watching BIOS temperature readings for 6 hours and it was oscillating around 80 degrees).
Motherboard is on my desk, not in a case.
No case probably the issue? pch heatsink made for some airflow. I'll have a look when home
 

MrBios

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What is your PCH temperature on X13SAE?

Mine is 80 degrees of Celsius, all M.2 slots are populated with Samsung 980 Pro.
Idle state (watching BIOS temperature readings for 6 hours and it was oscillating around 80 degrees).
Motherboard is on my desk, not in a case.
this is 12900k water cooled in 2U chassis - idle state
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mrmh

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When I remove NVMe disks from those M.2 slots which are wired to PCH, temp is 60 degrees of Celsius in idle state.
Idle state = no OS installed, just staring at temps and voltages in BIOS.

NVMe disks = Samsung 980 Pro with heatsinks and with latest firmware. No RAID configured (TBH, I cannot find that option in BIOS).

I am afraid of utilizing RAID (SATA or NVMe) because of high temp. If it is 80 degrees of Celsius in idle state, it could be easily over 100 degrees under average load. And active air cooling probably won't be much of help.
 

mrmh

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Have you tried latest BIOS 1.0b?
My upgrade from 1.0a fails with "Check RomLayout error" as if they uploaded wrong version on Supermicro website.
 

mirrormax

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Have you tried latest BIOS 1.0b?
My upgrade from 1.0a fails with "Check RomLayout error" as if they uploaded wrong version on Supermicro website.
Updated for me even though i also got that error at some point (think it was that same error at least)
 

Kiririn

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Has anyone heard anything about 13th gen support on these W680 boards (esp X13SAE), and whether ECC is still supported on the 13th gen Core chips?

edit: just saw Ark pages are up for 13th gen chips showing ECC still supported
 
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mirrormax

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z690 will be compatible with 13th gen so i assume w680 will aswell
guess the question is how long it will take for 13th gen bios.

dont expect a w780, when the rumor is w790 is the new intel HEDT platform with high threadcount workstation cpus

edit: checked the supermicro faq and found this


Can X13SAE/X13SAE-F support Intel 13th Gen. Core Raptor Lake CPU?
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Yes, both X13SAE and X13SAE-F can support Intle 13th Gen. Core Raptor Lake CPU with BIOS R 2.0 or above.
bios isnt published yet but assume its gonna be out with the release.
 

bambi123

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For anyone who owns the X13SAE-F

Is it possible to disable the E-cores in the BIOS of the X13SAE-F ? Wanted to run Server 2019/2022 with Hyper-V, I understand this only works if the E-Cores are disabled.

Also does the BIOS allow the adjustment of PL1 & PL2 ?

Thanks.
 

RolloZ170

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Is it possible to disable the E-cores in the BIOS of the X13SAE-F ?
unless the options is not disabled/hidden, yes:

Code:
0x30465                     Setting: Active Efficient-cores, Variable: 0x22F {05 91 A3 04 A4 04 51 00 02 00 2F 02 10 10 00 FF 00}
0x30476                         Option: All, Value: 0xFF {09 07 B6 04 30 00 FF}
0x3048A                             Option: 15, Value: 0xF {09 07 B4 04 00 00 0F}
0x304A0                             Option: 14, Value: 0xE {09 07 B3 04 00 00 0E}
0x304B6                             Option: 13, Value: 0xD {09 07 B2 04 00 00 0D}
0x304CC                             Option: 12, Value: 0xC {09 07 B1 04 00 00 0C}
0x304E2                             Option: 11, Value: 0xB {09 07 B0 04 00 00 0B}
0x304F8                             Option: 10, Value: 0xA {09 07 AF 04 00 00 0A}
0x3050E                             Option: 9, Value: 0x9 {09 07 AE 04 00 00 09}
0x30524                             Option: 8, Value: 0x8 {09 07 AD 04 00 00 08}
0x3053A                             Option: 7, Value: 0x7 {09 07 AC 04 00 00 07}
0x30550                             Option: 6, Value: 0x6 {09 07 AB 04 00 00 06}
0x30566                             Option: 5, Value: 0x5 {09 07 AA 04 00 00 05}
0x3057C                             Option: 4, Value: 0x4 {09 07 A9 04 00 00 04}
0x30592                             Option: 3, Value: 0x3 {09 07 A8 04 00 00 03}
0x305A8                             Option: 2, Value: 0x2 {09 07 A7 04 00 00 02}
0x305BE                             Option: 1, Value: 0x1 {09 07 A6 04 00 00 01}
0x305C7                         Option: 0, Value: 0x0 {09 07 A5 04 00 00 00}
 

bambi123

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Thanks that is great info.

Might try this board with an 12700K & Server 2019, running around 10 infrastructure VM's, so 99.9% of the time VM's will be idling.
 

i386

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Has anyone installed Windows Server on a X13SAE-F? It's not exactly on the compatibility chart but Windows 11 is. I've tried installing from a Rufus USB drive and the installer fails with "a required device isn't connected or can't be accessed"
tpm module installed/enabled in uefi?
 

bambi123

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tpm module installed/enabled in uefi?
I thought all modern Intel had TPM builtin on the CPU die, so an external TPM is not required to run Windows 11 or Server 2022.

Shown as Intel® Trusted Execution Technology on the Intel Ark sites.
 

i386

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I think txt is something diffferent, but I'm not an expert...
Supermicro has some tpm 2.0 modules with txt support