Dell BIOS is cryptographical signed/protected. without re-sign after mod. it will not work.
the latest microcode is loaded later by the OS (Windows or Linux)
doubt that. ASRock Rack usualy do not provide actual MCU on BIOS but support DCPMM.
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the latest microcode is loaded later by the OS (Windows or Linux)
Well, that's unfortunate. I think HP might be a similar situation. They don't have the actual downloads available for their older BIOS versions, but they still have the update announcements. Support for Pmem was added in BIOS 2.35, released Nov 2019 - given Dell 7920's 2.3.1 was Oct 2019, I don't think my odds are good there...
Speaking of which, it might be easier at this point to bite the bullet and just do a custom build... It will be easily 2x as expensive as getting a used Dell/HP though.
no, Platinum is not a 8 way grant anymore.
especialy the OEMs and customs are mostly capped down to 2way.
after 2nd gen scalable intel added a new suffix 'H' for 4/8 way SKUs.
sellers of the 8273CL suggests it is compatible with HP servers, no special BIOS required.
so it is not clear if HP needs the old microcode.
I think I asked the same seller about 6268CL and 6253CL and then they took off the part about HP servers from the descriptions. They don't seem too sure of themselves...
Cost of barebones z6 g4 + heatsink is ~$200 right now so I might still spring for it and try, though, if I give up on the Dell.
I have a feeling they are talking about older BIOS as well. Latest Z6 G4 BIOS (ver. 02.91 Rev.A, P60_0291) has 0x5003501 version of microcode...
Given this works on a supermicro X11SPA-T(F) with the right bios, do you think it will also work on Super X11DPG-OT-CPU with the same 3.0b microcde? The system page (4029GP-TRT | 4U | SuperServer | Products | Super Micro Computer, Inc.) says cascade lake needs 3.2 or above so maybe it cannot be used unless I build a moded bios. I'm okay doing that if will work but its an expensive experiment if not
worked on the X11QPH+ (only dual CPU 8273CL is S2S)
X11DPGs BIOS can be modded, should work but not tested.
found out something very weird.
the DRAM Thermal design Power is much much higher than usual
8272CL TDP=195W TDC=255A DRAM TDP= 7 W
8222CL TDP=200W TDC=255A DRAM TDP=27 W
8259CL TDP=210W TDC=255A DRAM TDP=38,3 W
8273CL TDP=165W TDC=228A DRAM TDP=38,3 W
6268CL TDP=205W TDC=228A DRAM TDP=64,5 W <<<<<<<<<
this can be a problem if checked by the Intel CS ME / CSE SPS or BIOS.
the DRAM Thermal design Power is much much higher than usual
8272CL TDP=195W TDC=255A DRAM TDP= 7 W
8222CL TDP=200W TDC=255A DRAM TDP=27 W
8259CL TDP=210W TDC=255A DRAM TDP=38,3 W
8273CL TDP=165W TDC=228A DRAM TDP=38,3 W
6268CL TDP=205W TDC=228A DRAM TDP=64,5 W <<<<<<<<<
this can be a problem if checked by the Intel CS ME / CSE SPS or BIOS.
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Interesting, didn't knew there is a DRAM TDP
Not sure if this is for some "special" type of DRAM / DCPMM modules tho, but I guess at least for Supermicro BIOS it seems can cope with these high values??i am completely clueless about this. or can be a used to make them incompatible to most nonOEM mboards.
maybe ASRock Rack ignores that parameter.
you can see/read/show DRAM TDP in AIDA64
Rollo, thank you so much. Had some trouble with an X11DPH-T with the newest firmware "bundle". Followed the hints here and got past the 0x79 stall by modifying the bios with the 500001C microcode.
Hello all, I have a Supermicro X11SPA-T and was looking at possibly taking a chance on a single 8273CL for my system. Can anyone confirm if this would work at all, and if so what BIOS file I would need to get? I know nothing about modding BIOS files so hopefully just an official Supermicro BIOS file (maybe one of the older ones?) would work right off the bat if I could get it loaded. Is anyone aware if this is at all possible, and if so by chance you could point me to where I could download the necessary BIOS file. I'd appreciate it so much. You guys are amazing for being able to pick all this stuff apart. Thanks in advance for any help at all.
If this can help others, I've tested the Xeon Gold 6268CL on Proliant DL3x0 Gen10 servers
as mentionned by others, manufacturers have removed the microcode needed to support these custom CPUs in their latest Bios versions
for the proliant the ONLY bios that works is version 2.02 dated Mar 28, 2019
the next version, 2.04 dated May 2, 2019 no longer contains the microcode and you end up with an RSOD on power up immediatly
as mentionned by others, manufacturers have removed the microcode needed to support these custom CPUs in their latest Bios versions
for the proliant the ONLY bios that works is version 2.02 dated Mar 28, 2019
the next version, 2.04 dated May 2, 2019 no longer contains the microcode and you end up with an RSOD on power up immediatly
