Horaco 2.5GbE Managed Switch (8 x 2.5GbE + 1 10Gb SFP+)

[felixtheflash]

Yeah when the picture was taken it was connected to the rest of the network. It is however not connected to anything else than my laptop right now, and still not able to connect to it. I am in contact with Horaco directly, hoping they can sort it out. So far though, not much luck with that either

 

[Grijzekop]

Have you tried 192.168.1.1?

Someone wrote:
Horaco Service helped me: The switch is listening on 192.168.1.1 with its "firmware page" if it fails to boot. So I could recover my switch.

 

[felixtheflash]

Found the error, i was using https like the manual said not http. I tried both but that was before switching subnets. Thanks for trying to help me guys.

 

[BeefStu]

Amazon has the NICGIGA 8+1 managed for $84.98
This morning I just received the YuLinca 8+1 managed for $84.99-15%=$73.09 from Amazon and it's the same internals and web interface.



I need one with 2x SFP+ (1 for NAS, 1 for uplink to a Mikrotik at the other side of the house) so I'm picking up the Sodola 4+2 managed for $59.99-$6-$6=$47.99 to try out. Based on Amazon product photos, the Sodola has the same "SWITCH" web interface as all the rest.

 

[blunden]

Based on Amazon product photos, the Sodola has the same "SWITCH" web interface as all the rest.
View attachment 36082

Yes, they are probably manufactured by the same company too. I think the management interface comes from the Realtek SDK for that platform, if I'm not mistaken.

The only difference is likely the sticker on the front and the model number they set. You can customize the latter yourself using the hidden menus mentioned earlier in the thread.

There is also lots of information about some of these Realtek switch platforms on the OpenWrt forum and here from people working on adding support for some of them in OpenWrt and also rewriting their Linux drivers for upstreaming.

 

[bards1888]

Just received mine. Have setup a LACP Trunk Group on ports 7 & 8







but can't seem to figure out how to easily tag vlans on the trunk. Should there be a virtual 'Aggregated Port' or do I have to tag vlans to both ports 7 & 8 separately ? The manual is about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike !

 

[Shonk]

My AmpCom 8+1 1.9 Firmware from the factory
doesnt flash the sys light all the time btw
its solid green

The only thing i have changed though is in ftdft.cgi

IP Address
Gateway
Default Password

 

[mattlach]

Can't say I would put any Chinese/noname branded switch on my network.

If something isn't designed in Europe (or Japan, Taiwan or South Korea) I'm probably never going to trust it.

Of the switches in the guide, I'd trust:
- Mikrotik
- Netgear
- QNap

I might be persuaded to trust the following (but I am not there yet)
- Zyxel (hey, I remember them from the modem days!)
- TrendNET (may not be from an authoritarian country, but is synonymous with cheap and disposable garbage tech as far as I am concerned)
- Asustor (Asus is a well known brand, but maybe not for their serious network tech...)

I would not trust any of the rest:
- Davuaz
- Hasivo
- ienRon
- Keeplink
- Mokerlink
- Nicgiga
- Sodola
- Tenda
- TP-Link
- Vimin
- Xikestor
- YuanLey
- YuLinca

The spammy "random product name generator" brands from authoritarian China with derivative copy & paste tech will never find a place on my network. And you ought to really think twice before using them too. They are a significant security risk.

Stick to real brands instead.

 

[Shonk]

Can't say I would put any Chinese/noname branded switch on my network.

If something isn't designed in Europe (or Japan, Taiwan or South Korea) I'm probably never going to trust it.

Of the switches in the guide, I'd trust:
- Mikrotik
- Netgear
- QNap

I might be persuaded to trust the following (but I am not there yet)
- Zyxel (hey, I remember them from the modem days!)
- TrendNET (may not be from an authoritarian country, but is synonymous with cheap and disposable garbage tech as far as I am concerned)
- Asustor (Asus is a well known brand, but maybe not for their serious network tech...)

I would not trust any of the rest:
- Davuaz
- Hasivo
- ienRon
- Keeplink
- Mokerlink
- Nicgiga
- Sodola
- Tenda
- TP-Link
- Vimin
- Xikestor
- YuanLey
- YuLinca

The spammy "random product name generator" brands from authoritarian China with derivative copy & paste tech will never find a place on my network. And you ought to really think twice before using them too. They are a significant security risk.

Stick to real brands instead.

Its not really spammy though
They are made by a manufacturer and offered for sale branded for the oem
they all run the same firmware and are made in the same factory

There are so many of them as oem's have realised they are popular
so they have requested the manufacturer make a model for them
they cant just use Hasivo's model number for example
so have to specify a model number and if they want any changes to the case colour and such

You missed one AmpCom

They have been tested by servethehome briefly and they dont seem to be sending out any data

if your that worried you can not set a gateway or block its access at the router

and tbh do you think for a second the NSA/GCHQ hasnt got root access to everything if required?

my personal feelings on the matter is i would prefer China to have root access than NSA/GCHQ

 

[MountainBofh]

For what it's worth, I have my gateway setup to watch for ANY traffic coming from my Horaco switch to the outside world and block it. Not a single packet yet.

And most of these no-name switches are Realtek cookie cutter designs. Realtek is Taiwan based, so they're a bit less likely to want to destroy their own reputation by back dooring their products.

 

[Shonk]

I have found the manufacturer of the 8+1 Switches by looking up the MAC its
Shenzhen Hongrui Optical Technology the non oem model is HR-SWTGW218AS
and its here

9 Port 10G uplink 2.5G Web Managed Ethernet switch | HRUI

HR-SWTGW218AS is a 9 Port 10G uplink 2.5G Web Managed Ethernet switch

www.hruitech.com

Original Hardware
HR-SWTGW218AS HRUI

Known OEM/ODM Version's
SL-SWTGW218AS Sodola
ZX-SWTGW218AS Horaco
WAMJHJ-8125MNG AmpCom
SKS3200M-8GPY1XF Xikestore

Known PCB Revision's of Managed Version
PCB-SWTG118AS-V2.0
PCB-SWTG118AS-V2.1

Known Firmware Links
SKS3200M-8GPY1XF

http://visit.seekswan.com:6555/app/file/download.html

We should be able to chase HRUI up for firmware updates

Something along the lines of

Hi I have a HR-SWTGW218AS with firmware 1.3
any chance of getting a copy of the latest firmware
they may send 1.9 they may send 2.0 who knows..

 

[blunden]

I have found the manufacturer of the 8+1 Switches by looking up the MAC its
Shenzhen Hongrui Optical Technology the non oem model is HR-SWTGW218AS
and its here

9 Port 10G uplink 2.5G Web Managed Ethernet switch | HRUI

HR-SWTGW218AS is a 9 Port 10G uplink 2.5G Web Managed Ethernet switch

www.hruitech.com

Original Hardware
HR-SWTGW218AS HRUI

Known OEM/ODM Version's
SL-SWTGW218AS Sodola
ZX-SWTGW218AS Horaco
WAMJHJ-8125MNG AmpCom
SKS3200M-8GPY1XF Xikestore

Known PCB Revision's of Managed Version
PCB-SWTG118AS-V2.0
PCB-SWTG118AS-V2.1

Known Firmware Links
SKS3200M-8GPY1XF

http://visit.seekswan.com:6555/app/file/download.html

We should be able to chase HRUI up for firmware updates

Something along the lines of

Hi I have a HR-SWTGW218AS with firmware 1.3
any chance of getting a copy of the latest firmware
they may send 1.9 they may send 2.0 who knows..

Great find!

How nice of them to leave the original MAC. Some of these other switches just use unregistered MAC addresses (presumably random), but at least they sometimes print the OEM logo on the PCB.

 

[Shonk]

Is anyone actually using the SFP+ Port

One direction is dog for me

SFP+ to RJ45 in Switch Linked at 10Gbps
9900k = AQC113C 10Gbps Link Speed
12900k = 2 x Realtek 8125b

SMB
Remoted into 9900k
12900k to 9900k 566 MB/s
9900k to 12900k 180 start 3xx finish

12900k Actual
12900k to 9900k 566 MB/s
9900k to 12900k 40 start 240 finish
9900k to 12900k 40 start 250 finish (SMB Multipath disabled by disableing one nic in 12900k)
9900k to 12900k 283 MB/s (SFP+ Bypassed 9900k directly into RJ45 Port Linked at 2.5 Gbps x 1)
9900k to 12900k 566 MB/s (SFP+ Bypassed 9900k directly into RJ45 Ports 2 x RTL8125b Linked at 2.5 Gbps x 2)

iperf3 is fine i can get 283 MB/s from both ip's at the same time (566 MB/s)
iperf3 --reverse is fine i can get 283MB/s from both ip's at the same time (566 MB/s)

but SMB really doesnt like going in one direction

 

[pigr8]

Can't say I would put any Chinese/noname branded switch on my network.

If something isn't designed in Europe (or Japan, Taiwan or South Korea) I'm probably never going to trust it.

Of the switches in the guide, I'd trust:
- Mikrotik
- Netgear
- QNap

I might be persuaded to trust the following (but I am not there yet)
- Zyxel (hey, I remember them from the modem days!)
- TrendNET (may not be from an authoritarian country, but is synonymous with cheap and disposable garbage tech as far as I am concerned)
- Asustor (Asus is a well known brand, but maybe not for their serious network tech...)

I would not trust any of the rest:
- Davuaz
- Hasivo
- ienRon
- Keeplink
- Mokerlink
- Nicgiga
- Sodola
- Tenda
- TP-Link
- Vimin
- Xikestor
- YuanLey
- YuLinca

The spammy "random product name generator" brands from authoritarian China with derivative copy & paste tech will never find a place on my network. And you ought to really think twice before using them too. They are a significant security risk.

Stick to real brands instead.

this comment makes little to no sense, you trust a "real brand" basend on what? do you really think that only because a specific device has XX name on it it's safe to use and fully trust? pretty naive if you ask me, because it has been demonstrated that is not so at all, really, just trust google and microsoft with your data only because they are "real brands".

buy a device, inspect the source code and compile it on your own, flash it, so you can be "sure-er".. hoping you did not miss a backdoor (Gigabyte anyone?).. and btw, you trust netgear? well, lol.

i keep my local net disconnected from the rest of the world, 100% sure.

 

[pigr8]

i got 2x Apcom 8+1 managed switches on superdeal, 110€ total shipped.. i will report here the inside and how the fw looks.

 

[djr747]

It looks like TP-Link is now selling a version of this switch:

TL-SE2109 2.5G云管理交换机 - TP-LINK官方网站

TP-LINK（普联技术有限公司）是领先的ICT设备与解决方案提供商。自1996年成立以来，我们提供的海量设备已服务千行百业、千家万户，用以构建万物互联的世界。我们致力于让我们的系统和解决方案，成为农业、工业、流通和服务业等广泛领域的生产力工具，提高社会效率，节约社会成本，创造社会财富，为数字化社会的建设提供服务。

www.tp-link.com.cn

If the firmware is compatible that might be very interesting. I don't see any firmware downloads on their web site.

Here is an unboxing with some photos and screenshots but no internals shown.

2.5G交换机 TL-SE2109简单开箱评测，8个2.5G电口+1个10G光口(SFP+) - WiFi/路由器 数码之家

TPLINK（普联）的万兆上联的2.5G网管交换机TL-SE2109简单开箱测评。8个2.5电口，1个万兆SFP+口。TL-SH5428 万兆交换机开箱和简单的评测：https://blog.zeruns.tech/archi ... 2.5G交换机 TL-SE2109简单开箱评测，8个2.5G电口+1个10G光口(SFP+) ,数码之家

www-mydigit-cn.translate.goog

 

[pigr8]

i got 2x Apcom 8+1 managed switches on superdeal, 110€ total shipped.. i will report here the inside and how the fw looks.

arrived 4 days ago, super fast shipping.

build quality is very good, it's classic SWTG118AS-V2.1 board, came with firmware v1.9 onboard, everything seems to be working fine, gonna test 2x 10gb sfp+ between them.

 

[zipityzi]

Has anyone seen noticeably higher TCP retransmissions with iperf3? This is with the 4-port 2.5GbE + 2-port 10GbE, POE, managed Hasivo (model # below).

I ran mine at a paltry 700 Mbps vs my old TP-Link 1 GbE $25 switch. Further, clients have dropped / lost connection more than a few times only on the Hasivo after an hour stress test. Maybe a dud.

Everything identical; just unplugged from the Hasivo and plugged them into the TP-Link; re-ran each 3x times.

macOS 2.5 GbE server: iperf3 -s
Windows 2.5 GbE client: iperf3 -c [IP address] -b 700M

On the Windows system, I checked TCP retransmissions via netstat -s -p TCP in Command Prompt.



This is the Hasivo S600WP-4GT-2XGT-SE on firmware V1.9; reset to firmware defaults, virtually identical results. Speeds are fine, except when a client disconnects and speeds plummet to 0 Mbps in the middle of iperf3 :-/

EDIT: This is just a representative run for the Hasivo. The TP-Link stays consistent, well below 0.001%, but the Hasivo is as high as 0.2% TCP retransmissions.

 

[OnnoO]

Do you see packet drops in the interface statistics?

 

[zipityzi]

Do you see packet drops in the interface statistics?

It looks clean as a whistle. Before & after the reset (img below is after the rest), it's always shown 0 TxBadPkt and 0 RxBadPkt.