ES Xeon Discussion

Discussion in 'Processors and Motherboards' started by britinpdx, Mar 8, 2015.

  1. pesceman3

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  2. minimini

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    Thanks, I was quite worried if it will work out or not. I really can't afford 3500 GBP per CPU, so price was important.
     
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    It's a very early ES though so I'm leaning towards the OEM 2683s instead
     
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    hi! i have a particular xeon e5 v3 es/qs cpu i'd like to trade for a different xeon e5 v3 es/qs cpu of about the same value.


    can i post this request either on the for sale/trade board or here? if not, any recommendations?
     
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    About Z10PE and fans - they are regulated dynamically, but the temperature where they spin up is 55-60C, if you have set them i think High speed (which is 50% PWM, not sure). That is temperature i personally do not reach.
     
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    You would have to post in the For Sale/ For Trade/ Want to Buy.
     
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    Just to let you know, the replacement board worked fine with the ES CPUs, 2CPU cinebench was ~3100.
     
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    I think it's a very good CPU. 2.3GHz at default and 2.5GHz all core Turbo. Should be at least 5-7% more fast than 2683V3
     
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  11. Nanotech

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    Yes in terms of single threaded performance it would actually beat the 2683 V3 OEM processor. The 2683 V3 is clocked at 2Ghz whereas the 2658 V4 is a 2.3Ghz processor. Sure the turbo is 2.8Ghz for the 2658 V4 but it's 3Ghz for the 2683 V3. When all 14 cores are active they both boost to 2.5Ghz.
     
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  12. gtz

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    Both CPUs are very similar, all core turbo on both is 2.5 (I would ignore the 2.0 and 2.3 values) . Cinebench score on the V4 is around 80-100 points more due to the architectural improvements of broadwell since again both turbo at the same all core turbo.

    Single core performance on the other hand the V3 sligtly edges it since its 2 core turbo is 3.0 as opposed to 2.8 on the V4. In my testing between V3 and V4 I found out clock for clock a V3 Xeon clock at 2.6 is equal to a 2.5 V4 (100mhz give or take).

    However V4 CPUs handle AVX a lot better than V3 and do not downclock as bad as the V3.

    Question for you, will this CPU be paired with an X99 motherboard or server board?

    V3 CPUs overclock better than the V4 variants. The busses are a lot stable on Haswell than they are on broadwell. On the V4 CPU I tested I could not get higher than 102 on the BCLK, both Haswell chips I had can do 105 easily.

    I currently have my main rig with a 2683 QS tweaked and stable and get a Cinebench score of 1820 (love the multicore performance). But it is also real good for gaming as well, tested against my old 5820K overclocked to 4.4 I only got a 10 -15FPS hit in worst case scenario and around 5 or less in great threaded games.

    Out of the 2 I would personally choose the the V3 OEM do the price, however if I was going to pair it with a server board and do heavy AVX workloads I would choose the V4.
     
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    Can anyone comment on the motherboard compatibility of QS chips over ES (E5 v3). I'm looking at an ebay listing of a QS chip that I'm really interested in.. but I don't have the motherboard/RAM ordered yet and I have no clue what compatibility is like versus ES chips. I've been googling for an hour and not turning up much info.
     
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    The general consensus is for X99 AsRock has great compatibility with ES chips.
     
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    I'm specifically asking about QS, not ES. I'd most likely be looking at a Supermicro board for ECC support unless that is supported on Asrock's x99s.. haven't looked much at consumer boards at all.
     
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    My vote also leans towards Asrock. Has a 2630V4 (ES) running on X99 extreme6 and it runs flawlessly. Just check bios revision before buying, I had to flash bios chip in standalone programmer.
     
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  17. gtz

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    I am sorry I misread, true QS chips will work with any board that support 2011v3 Xeons. 99% of all QS chips have the same steppings as retail/OEM chips and all features are present.
     
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    MSI and AsRock have the best compatibility with V4 ES1. For V3 ES the majority of manufacturers such as ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, AsRock, EVGA, etc... have compatibility with V3 ES even ES1.
     
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    Then you have to more specific yourself. Which CPU? I suggest you check out this thread, many questions like this have been answered before.
     
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    I've got an X99 board. My rig will be solely for C++ computations on real-time streaming data.

    I have been hanging out for the 2686 QS chips to come back, I originally bought one for 400USD and the seller turned around and said he listed too many and couldn't sell it!

    The Cinebench score of 1820, is that will you overlocking the BCLK?

    I guess the other advantage of the V4 chips is the larger memory bandwidth/ supported DDR4-2400 vs 2133
     
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