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oddssodds

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Hello everyone. Pardon, I'm sure that I am repeating. I have a Dell Precision 7820 x2 and I want to upgrade the processors.

I am looking at these QS units and wondering if anyone can pick out potential problems with this option.

thanks
QS processor
 

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Considering the motherboard price per socket, ES cpu price, etc., I eventually gave up on buying the dell 5860 motherboard and decided to install 2x d0 ES(qyfs) on the gigabyte ms73-hb1 motherboard instead.


Now I need some information on the cooling solution and overclocking method required for it.

1. For example, I know that the asus c621 motherboard supported Xeon scalable processor overclocking.
Does gigabyte support a similar function?

2. Since there is no information on mutual interference when installing a tower air cooler, I would like to ask those who have experience with the ms73-hb1 motherboard what kind of cooling solution they installed.
If there is no tower cooler that satisfies both low noise and no spatial interference, I plan to install a 420mm aio that supports the lga 4677 socket.
 

sam55todd

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...2. Since there is no information on mutual interference when installing a tower air cooler...
This might not give a direct answer but as an idea - in my experience majority of potential interference issues are solved by using regular airflow redirectors for instance made of common baking paper rolls (it's non-sick, non-conductive {cellulose}, high-temp resistant and quite cheap, therefore you can experiment with shape and scissors without much worry of running out this disposable material), although it doesn't keep shape very well (there are trays for baking made of more solid material) but at least is a feasible solution for prototypes.. To precautionary protect all critical areas you can add those flow control channels on both sides - from tower intake to cooler and then from CPU cooler all the way to exhaust (as long as those channels don't obstruct other airflows much, e.g. GPU, PCH/chipset, RAM, etc.). It's much cheaper than trying to amateurishly replicate safe server-grade airflow control solutions from HP/Dell using say plastic 3D-printing (which can also get toxic on higher temps {e.g. emitting chloride compounds} if wrong materials are used).
 
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RolloZ170

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1. For example, I know that the asus c621 motherboard supported Xeon scalable processor overclocking.
Does gigabyte support a similar function?
asus c621e SAGE supports not real overclocking because Xeon scalables are not unlocked.
be glad that SPR D0 ES is supported, don't expect any OC support from C741 motherboards.
 

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2. Since there is no information on mutual interference when installing a tower air cooler, I would like to ask those who have experience with the ms73-hb1 motherboard what kind of cooling solution they installed. If there is no tower cooler that satisfies both low noise and no spatial interference, I plan to install a 420mm aio that supports the lga 4677 socket.
I forgot who but there are users that installed 2 Noctua NH-U12S DX-4677 on MS73.
It is very tight (difficult to attach the fan clamps) but it fits, just mind the airflow cooling direction, if it is suitable for the case.
 

Kizune

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The only overclocking C621e SAGE supports is BCLK - and Scalable 1/2 generation processors are not too good at it - the max I’ve got for relatively stable o/c (means cinebench completes) was +4.2%. Does not worth it.
 
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Considering the motherboard price per socket, ES cpu price, etc., I eventually gave up on buying the dell 5860 motherboard and decided to install 2x d0 ES(qyfs) on the gigabyte ms73-hb1 motherboard instead.


Now I need some information on the cooling solution and overclocking method required for it.

1. For example, I know that the asus c621 motherboard supported Xeon scalable processor overclocking.
Does gigabyte support a similar function?

2. Since there is no information on mutual interference when installing a tower air cooler, I would like to ask those who have experience with the ms73-hb1 motherboard what kind of cooling solution they installed.
If there is no tower cooler that satisfies both low noise and no spatial interference, I plan to install a 420mm aio that supports the lga 4677 socket.
Something like this? First picture is without 50mm fan tunnel, 2nd picture is. VRMs on MS73 HB0 with dual 8480+ QYFR get to 130c plus, now never over 80c full load at 3200 all core with PP level 4.

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Also. Anyone luck with R23 scores on 8480+ ES? Capping 105,000... Normal? W9-3495 gets 80,000-90,000 single processor 56/112 versus 8480+ 112/224? Single socket 8480+ ES gets 65K... But? Even with 1.8ghz less all core boost? Or R23 limitation with more than one socket?
 
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Cythisia

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Here 2800 all core QYFR PP/0 112/224


2800 boost.jpg

this is 3100 all core QYFR PP/4 96/192

3100 boost.jpg


Just realized only have 3 working sticks of DDR5...? o_O

Anyone else have QYFR, and does wattage report? Think QYFR issue, see all QYFS reporting wattage, but no one has QYFR 8480+.
 
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Cythisia

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Yeah, I had to clean every stick with isopropyl to get my DDR5 to be trained and picked up. 8 channel+DDR5 RDIMMS=crazy picky!
Frustratingly recently had to return 16 sticks on MS73 QVL, but Gigabyte said sticks made prior to 2022 don't work LMAO... reporting "Old Dram Vendor Detected"

Insane...
 
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Frustratingly recently had to return 16 sticks on MS73 QVL, but Gigabyte said sticks made prior to 2022 don't work LMAO... reporting "Old Dram Vendor Detected"

Insane...
Wow, what the ****?
DDR5 had a substantial change at some point in its life?
 

kannalo

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Are there any regular sized motherboards that these xeon es chips work with or only large server boards?

I saw on aliexpress Xeon Platinum 8352Y ES QV2F Step 5
 
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Are there any regular sized motherboards that these xeon es chips work with or only large server boards?

I saw on aliexpress Xeon Platinum 8352Y ES QV2F Step 5
there are many single processor (u) ATX regular size boards.
but ( with latest BIOS ) there is no motherboard left with B0/C0 ES support.
maybe QWAN is your friend.