Cooling the CPU, X11SDV-4C-TLN2F

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  1. Tiw

    Tiw New Member

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    Hey good folks of STH,
    I recently purchased an X11SDV-4C-TLN2F, the one with a FCBGA2518 socket and a Xeon D-2123IT.
    Now the chassis I've chosen apparently has insufficient airflow to adequately cool the heat sink, so I'm looking for solutions. Either a way to actively cool the existing heat sink or entirely replace it with another active CPU cooler.
    The third-party market for FCBGA2518 coolers are, how ever, non-existent.
    Does anyone have any good suggestions on how I can get the piece cooled sufficiently?
    Presently, I've literally laid a (too small for the heat sink) 60 mm fan on top of the heat sink as a makeshift solution, just to keep the system from overheating, but it's idling at 65 degrees C, which is way too high. Any actual load will most likely make the CPU hit critical and shut down.

    Help me STH Kenobi, you're my only hope!
    Best regards,
    Tiw
     
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  2. marcoi

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    seems like a fan is probably the best best. I was looking for images of the cpu die without the heatsink installed but nothing showing up. I did see gigabyte model has a fairly beefy fan on their heatsink.

    Alternative would be looking for a way to put a custom water cooling unit on that cpu. but it will probably require some custom bracket to hold it in place.
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    Supermicro does have an active cooler for the FPGA-2518 processor line, and its effective enough that they install it on up to 100w parts (D-2183IT). Can't comment on how quiet it is, but its likely loud since audible is not one of SMs normal design priorities.

    I can't identify the part number for it but it appears on a couple of their mITX motherboards. One example is the X11SDV-16C+-TLN2F. Notice the extra "+" in the suffix, which normally represents active cooling on SM's part numbering.

    Anybody able to identify the part number of this HSF?

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  4. joe paolicelli

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    I recently worked on a custom build using the same socket (xeon d 2146nt cpu embedded into fcbga2518) and needed to make it silent. I had to custom fabricate the brackets so that it would take the standard noctua nh-L12S cooler. It does a real good job of cooling and is virtually silent. In the process, I also found the stock active heatsink shown above and purchased from wiredzone. This active heatsink is very loud but effective at cooling up to 100 tdp: (and yes you can find just about anything on this forum!)
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  5. Tiw

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    That's a really nice solution!
    May I ask how you fashioned these custom brackets for the heat sink/cooler?
    Did it require custom machinery, tools or material?
    Thanks for your contribution to the thread!
    Best regards,
    Tiw
     
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  6. joe paolicelli

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    I used a company called ICC out of chicago to make them for me. This whole project was a bit challenging due to the unique socket and mb dimensions (flex-atx). I also wound up making the case completely out of carbon fiber and building a custom mold (hence the roomba looking design!)
     
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  7. joe paolicelli

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    a cheap but effective way to cool this cpu would be to just mount (via special 2 sided tape) a specific 80mm fan directly on top. I used a fan off of a dynatron b11 cooler that was used for my 3647 builds that had a lot of static pressure and was not too loud at moderate load:
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  8. sth

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    sweet job. Please let me know if you get enough asks to do another run... Id be interested in one or two.

    thanks
     
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  9. kmo12345

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    I have a X11SDV-4C and am also looking for a solution to the CPU cooling. Right now I am using cardboard to duct air from a 12cm fan at the front of the case over the heatsink.

    I really like the platform but it's really too bad they don't make a + version of the 4C... In the summer I was running 60C in a 25C room which is not ideal.

    I just ordered a second one as a backup for the first one so I will take some measurements before I put it into production. I was also wondering if there might be some improvement from replacing the thermal material with some Arctic Silver? Does anyone do that anymore?

    My other thought was just to get a larger and taller copper heatsink. I have access to a machine shop so I could make brackets if needed.
     
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  10. xqdong

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    I just successfully installed Noctua NH-D9L on X11SDV-4C-TLN2F, and in the case Streacom DA2. You need modify the two piece of metal from the D9L set, to be able installed on the four holes around the CPU, and you also need doing some fine tuning to be able to fit the heatsink on it. and you need cut shorter the four white color plastic foots, keep about 70% of the original length, to be able to let heatsink touch the cpu, but don't to be too short, otherwise, there is a chipset on the board will be pressed too hard. you need be careful. it takes me two days to finish the project, and now the CPU temperature is very nice, it is now about 20 degrees less compare to before. indoor temp is about 12 degree, and now cpu temp is 24 degree with optimal fan speed.

    Short list of what I have done:
    1. for the AM4 mounting kit in the Noctua NH-D9L, open additional holes, to make sure when it installed on the motherboard CPU socket screw holes, it will still be able to connect to the heatsink. you need manually calculate the additional holes place on the metal.
    2. adjust the mounting metal's wings, make sure the heatsink can fit between two mounting wings, without been blocked.
    3. Cut the four plastic white color foot from the Noctua set, cut off about 0.5cm from it, and then it will be low enough toe make sure heatsink will be able to touch to the cpu surface.

    What you need as tool is just an electric drill with a set of drills for metal and at least half day. nothing else.

    and note the CPU fan should be connected to FAN1, or FAN2, those two fan headers are controlled by CPU temp. FANA is for system FAN.

    Good luck.

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  11. wazoo42

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    How much headroom do you have in the case?

    I made some fan shrouds for the X10SDV and custom heatsinks I bought using a 3D printer.

    chemlinux: Cooling X10SDV (Xeon D-1540/1541)

    I have the same X11SDV and was thinking of creating something similar, but I have not workout out any of the dimensions yet.
     
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  12. wazoo42

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    Using a Sunon 80 mm diameter fan cut both the load and idle temperatures in half (80 C to 40 C and 40 C to 20 C), plus or minus a few degrees science. Would something like this work for your setup?

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  13. Steven_gt

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    Successfully installed Noctua NH-U12S on X11SDV-8C+-TLN2F and Fractal Design node 304 case. Just drill two brackets from mounting kit to fit motherboard holes and nothing more. Doesn't need to cut plastic sleeve from mounting kit, just installed a grey one and it fit perfect.

    Heatsink orientation fits case airflow from face to backside. One lack - heatsink pipes block DIMM3 slot but it suitable for me with 64Gb RAM installed

    Need to update IPMI to last version (1.25 for now) and adjust lower threshold for fan speed with ipmi tool to prevent errors in IPMI log

    Now its absolutely quiet solution. Room temperature is 23C, processor is 33C. Processor fan speed 1400rpm

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  14. xqdong

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    nice job!
     
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    @Steven_gt is that the stock active cooler in the background? If so, are you going to sell it? Feel free to PM me.
     
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  16. joe paolicelli

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    Let me know if you need the details on adjusting the fan thresholds in ipmi. I have to do that on most of my supermicro mb when using low speed fans to avoid the fan throttling. is there some reason that you used the much taller nh-u12s for the da2 case instead of the nh-l12s? You might be able to use all 4 dimm slots with the l12s cooler.
    I will now need to check to see if I could have just drilled new holes in the existing brackets instead of have new brackets fabricated from scratch. Thanks for your post.
    jp
     
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  17. Steven_gt

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    The airflow in fractal design case directed from face to backside. Nh-u12s flow direction is the same instead of nh-l12s

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    I used the Evercool RVF-1F RVF-1F – EVERCOOL VGA fan.
    It fits onto the original CPU heatsink just barely to clasp it with sides of its mount.
    I did replace the fan with a 80x25mm BlackNoise fan, for better airflow.
     
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    What 2-sided tape you use? Thanks!
     
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    Great thread!

    I wonder, has anyone tried the passive heatsink from Supermicro (SNK-P0067PS) or one of the active ones, such as the SNK-P0068APS4?
    I am going for the active one, but if it's too noisy and/or the passive one does a good job on a Fractal Design node 804, so I might go for the passive one.
     
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