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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

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blunden

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The cable I have is from Monoprice OM3 LC/LC 50/125 Type, Multi Mode, 10GB. Fiber count says "Duplex" so I suspect there are 2 fibers in the cable. I then intend to use Brocade 10GB 57-0000075-01 off of eBay (like $10 each) for each end. I don't understand whether I need two of these cables or just one to create a stack using Brocade ICX switches.

Switch one and Switch two are 100 feet away from each other and I want them to stack.
Duplex cables use one of the fibers for send and one for receive like I described earlier. To use each fiber separately you need more expensive transceivers that use different wavelengths to send traffic both ways over a single fiber. You don't need to do that here though.

Regarding stacking the Brocade ICX switches, I would defer to the post by @sic0048 above. :)

Incredibly novice question--is there a good way to connect an ICX6610 to a 2.5GbE RJ45 switch like a Netgear MS108UP?

In my mind I figured I could just use an SFP+ to RJ45 module that can do 2.5GbE, but then I realized that I wasn't certain that the SFP+ port on the ICX6610 could do that speed--and upon reading through the documentation, it sounds like these ports are only either 10gig or 1gig--with nothing in between.
No, 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T are newer standards than 10GBASE-T so they generally don't work with these older network devices. You can however find transceivers that negotiate 10GbE with the switch and then those slower speeds with the device on the other end of the cable, doing speed limiting internally in the transceiver. Many of the chips don't handle that properly though based on tests here on the forum, so you want a transceiver using one of the Aquantia chips. Thankfully, the 10Gtek ASF-10G2-T (note the "2" in the model name) that you can find on Amazon or AliExpress is using the Marvell/Aquantia AQR113C and it generally works fine.



Another option is to buy a cheap unmanaged 4 * 2.5GBASE-T + 2 * 10G SFP+ switch off of AliExpress and basically use it as a media converter. The HiSource one can sometimes be had for as low as roughly $25-30, or as low as $18 if you are a new user. I own one of those and it works perfectly fine with both DACs and fiber transceivers. Using a switch just to connect to a different switch might be a bit weird though. :D
 
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No, 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T are newer standards than 10GBASE-T so they generally don't work with these older network devices. You can however find transceivers that negotiate 10GbE with the switch and then those slower speeds with the device on the other end of the cable, doing speed limiting internally in the transceiver. Many of the chips don't handle that properly though based on tests here on the forum, so you want a transceiver using one of the Aquantia chips. Thankfully, the 10Gtek ASF-10G2-T (note the "2" in the model name) that you can find on Amazon or AliExpress is using the Marvell/Aquantia AQR113C and it generally works fine.



Another option is to buy a cheap unmanaged 4 * 2.5GBASE-T + 2 * 10G SFP+ switch off of AliExpress and basically use it as a media converter. The HiSource one can sometimes be had for as low as roughly $25-30, or as low as $18 if you are a new user. I own one of those and it works perfectly fine with both DACs and fiber transceivers. Using a switch just to connect to a different switch might be a bit weird though. :D
Thanks for the awesome response!

I think that just using an ASF-10G2-T transceiver for $53 is a good option for me, but I'm keeping that little switch in mind... might be a great option to toss in each room of the house that needs a switch.
 

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ok... keeping the transceiver question going!!!

I have 4 pc's connected via fiber and work great at 10gb!!!!

Now I have a Lenovo Tiny that I am getting a thunderbolt 10gb nic
Solo10G (10GBASE-T 10Gb Ethernet Thunderbolt Adapter) - SONNETTECH
which is RJ45. This works as that machine is in my living room and I have a cat 5e cable running back to my rack...

I want to put an rj45 transceiver into my brocade 7250 10gb port...
would you go with

10G SFP+ to RJ45 Copper Module 10gb SFP 30M For Cisco TP-LINK D-Link Mikrotik | eBay
or
10G SFP+ Module 10GbE Copper SFP Modules Optical Port Turn to RJ45 Ethernet7511 | eBay



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Or I just noticed my Fios CR1000A has a 10GBE Lan port and I could just plug into that and save the $ as the router has an rj45 10gbe and I wouldnt need a transceiver... wait, typing and thinking not a good deal.. because I currently have the 10gbe line going into the brocade... yes at 1gb speed so i would need to do a transceiver regardless because that pc would go from it to 10gbe through lan 1 which is 1gb to get back to my network.. sorry, my brain and adhd thinks fast...
 
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Code:
The stack unit 1 chassis info:

Power supply 1 present, status failed
Power Supply 1 Fan has failed
Power supply 2 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
        Model Number:   23-0000142-02
        Serial Number:  A9W
        Firmware Ver:    C
Power supply 2 Fan Air Flow Direction:  Front to Back

Fan 1 not present
Fan 2 ok, speed (auto): [[1]]<->2

Fan controlled temperature: 79.0 deg-C

Fan speed switching temperature thresholds:
                Speed 1: NM<----->84       deg-C
                Speed 2:       79<-----> 87 deg-C (shutdown)

Fan 2 Air Flow Direction:  Front to Back
MAC 1 Temperature Readings:
        Current temperature : 65.0 deg-C
MAC 2 Temperature Readings:
        Current temperature : 79.0 deg-C
CPU Temperature Readings:
        Current temperature : 49.0 deg-C
sensor A Temperature Readings:
        Current temperature : 61.5 deg-C
sensor B Temperature Readings:
        Current temperature : 47.5 deg-C
sensor C Temperature Readings:
        Current temperature : 57.5 deg-C
stacking card Temperature Readings:
        Current temperature : 49.0 deg-C
        Warning level.......: 77.0 deg-C
        Shutdown level......: 87.0 deg-C
Anyone know what causes the high MAC 2 temps? I guess I should just open it up and clean it, but it's in production and eugh.
 

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So ... upgraded the ICX7650 to 10.0.10c and I had some issues with the CLI being non functional. Simply put -after a while, the CLI would error out with CLI_SHELL_FAILED: SCP_HDLR-TASK ITC_INIT, ITC_ERR[27] and the only thing that would help is a reload. I read that Ruckus was planning fixes in 10.0.10c_cd3 or something - upgraded now to 10.0.20 and will report back, but it's pretty nasty if they let something so basic get past QA
 
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I was looking at replacing my ICX6610 with something that uses less power since I do not use QSFP. I am debating some ICX7150(-24P and -C12P) but read that the power supply for these models is terrible and burns up. Anyone happen to know any truths around that statement? I have 3 POE devices in one location and 12 in another all interconnected by SFP+.

Anyone happen to know power supply parts if the PSU craps itself. i searched the thread and could not find anything.
 
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I was looking at replacing my ICX6610 with something that uses less power since I do not use QSFP. I am debating some ICX7150(-24P and -C12P) but read that the power supply for these models is terrible and burns up. Anyone happen to know any truths around that statement? I have 3 POE devices in one location and 12 in another all interconnected by SFP+.

Anyone happen to know power supply parts if the PSU craps itself. i searched the thread and could not find anything.
not sure but i like my 7250... only been using for a few weeks... 7 POE devices and got 1 more to go.. and 4 10gb sfp+
 

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Hello guys so i need a little help flashing my new switches . a couple of 7250s

I am using the same cable that i used to flash the 6450s a couple of years ago .

I have connected to the management port and used putty to connect , however i get no signs of connection . The lights on the port are not blinking.

I think i have the drivers installed correctly

Am i missing something ?

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I think you need to use the mini-usb serial console, not the management port.
Since it's not a "proper" serial, you'll need something like this
 

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Is there any difference/concern if a switch is branded as Rukus? I saw an auction for a ICX7250-24P that was Rukus branded.

I assume there's no actual difference but you never know. Figured I'd ask. Obviously newer but you never know what things get "cost reduced" during a hardware refresh of the same product.
 
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Is there any difference/concern if a switch is branded as Rukus? I saw an auction for a ICX7250-24P that was Rukus branded.

I assume there's no actual difference but you never know. Figured I'd ask. Obviously newer but you never know what things get "cost reduced" during a hardware refresh of the same product.
mine says rukas when i go in... 7250-48p poe
 

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Is there any difference/concern if a switch is branded as Rukus? I saw an auction for a ICX7250-24P that was Rukus branded.

I assume there's no actual difference but you never know. Figured I'd ask. Obviously newer but you never know what things get "cost reduced" during a hardware refresh of the same product.
I'd say there's none.
You can even get an ANX 7150-C12P and I'm sure it's just a normal Brocade/Ruckus with a different enclosure.
 

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I'd say there's none.
You can even get an ANX 7150-C12P and I'm sure it's just a normal Brocade/Ruckus with a different enclosure.
Yeah right on. I would also assume no difference but you know what happens when you assume. It's all too familiar of a story when a company cuts costs by using crappier parts or components but sell the same product as if there's nothing different.
 

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I was looking at replacing my ICX6610 with something that uses less power since I do not use QSFP. I am debating some ICX7150(-24P and -C12P) but read that the power supply for these models is terrible and burns up. Anyone happen to know any truths around that statement? I have 3 POE devices in one location and 12 in another all interconnected by SFP+.

Anyone happen to know power supply parts if the PSU craps itself. i searched the thread and could not find anything.
I’ve been rocking a 7150-24, 7150-C12P and a 7250-24P for about 9 months now and have no complaints. That being said, my AP is my only PoE device and it’s off the 7250.

I did see a patch where people were having 7150-C12Ps PSU die a few years back in this thread, and there was discussion around how to repair them, I’ll see if I can find it again.
Mine is in an enclosed space so I sat a small AC Infinity USB fan on top of it to move the air around a bit and keep it from cooking which keeps the temp readouts quite acceptable.
 
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I think its easier to just make your own cable with a keystone and a spare USB cable.

Anyways for the guys with the ICX7250s how can i upgrade to the v9 firmware ? I want a pretty webui since someone else is going to manage those switches.
Pull whatever version of V9 you want from here (IMO they'll have to pry 8 from my cold dead hands):

Follow these instructions to update: