Topton Jasper Lake Quad i225V Mini PC Report

[hmw]

Has anyone gotten Server Core 2022 installed on the Topton?

wrote a guide to get this working here: https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...ported-adapters-on-windows-server-core.40128/

Also - one can use this method to install all the OTHER device drivers that Server Core won't install. You will NOT be able to update these drivers via the Windows Admin Center Device Manager

• For Intel INF drivers, download the SetupChipset utility from here: Chipset INF Utility and run SetupChipset.exe /s for silent install - this should cover most of the system chipset devices.
  
  
• But if you're still seeing devices that don't have drivers - like PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_4DE0 - either load the Intel ME driver (Intel® Management Engine Drivers for Windows® 10 and Windows® 11) or then use devcon to update the drivers one by one. For example in the ME engine setup zip, there's the drivers\MEI\win10 directory which contains heci.inf which contains an entry for "PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_4DE0". Therefore you can use devcon
  
  devcon update heci.inf "PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_4DE0"
  
  This should install the driver successfully
  
  
• Still other drivers such as ACPI\INT34C8 - these are available via Microsoft's catalog Microsoft Update Catalog - download and use the same devcon trick to update drivers.

Other than the i225-V drivers, none of the others needed any modifications to the INF

So far the only drivers I see not working or installed are for the sound system and for the GNA accelerator. I have no need to install these. However, with the INF & Chipset drivers installed, I get working Speedshift and DPTF - so the platform runs nice and cool and uses minimal energy

 

[marcosscriven]

Thanks, i have sent them a mail earlier today. I'll let you know if they reply.

Did they reply? I'm having the same issue - the drive works fine in another N5015-based mini PC.

 

[marcosscriven]

Update: finally got someone at ChangWang.
They were very helpful, and said a BIOS update would be available soon!

 

[grotim]

Did they reply? I'm having the same issue - the drive works fine in another N5015-based mini PC.

I have been in touch with someone too, but he was not very helpful.(he thought that the issue was related to the drive being faulty rather than a bios issue)

 

[Oarman]

I know the interest has moved on to the newer boxes, but just as a data point, my CWWK J6413 box made it 52 days uptime without issue, OPNSense VM on Proxmox with the 6.2.6 kernel and latest microcode updates. I had had one previous KVM crash on a 6.1.something kernel before that. Other than that this device has been trouble-free, only other restarts have been for updates.

 

[dums]

Hi,
I've updated my NAS project to version 2.
Features:

• Now it has two HDDs (versus single HDD in v1)
• Cooling FAN for HDD cage
• Software controlled ON/OFF relay for HDD FAN
• FAN speed controller (manual)
• Power supply circuit for second HDD

 

[cioby23]

Hello,

Can someone provide me link for a compatible 80x80x10 fan for a CWWK v5 N5105 mini PC ?

Is this the Fan connector (4 pin) where it needs to be connected (pointed by the red arrow) ?


Thank you.

 

[AnthonyUK]

Hello,

Can someone provide me link for a compatible 80x80x10 fan for a CWWK v5 N5105 mini PC ?

Is this the Fan connector (4 pin) where it needs to be connected (pointed by the red arrow) ?


Thank you.

Not the greatest solution but I'm using a n old Antec 100mm 3 speed fan powered by one of the USB ports so it is silent but is enough to significantly reduce the temps

 

[cioby23]

Small update on v4 testing:


Included fan (80x80x10) is a bit noisy but does the job.
Buzzer is way louder than any other device I have owned so far. In fact, it is too loud.
The unit does not like it too much if you disable Intel ME, there are 2x three short beeps at POST if disabled.

So far I'm pretty satisfied with the device, better than the KingNovy/Topton with Changwang v2 Board.

Can you please tell me what cable are you using for connecting the 80x80x10 fan on the motherboard fan connector ?
Thank you.

 

[EasyRhino]

So it seems like changwang may have a new bios for the N5015:

畅网N5105-V3-V4-V5微码更新2023-04-18发布(鸡血版本)

BIOS更新内容：1,更新最新CPU微码2,修复了虚拟机情况下死机重启问题3,依然是满血全功耗开放版本（请自行注意做好散热）

www.changwang.com

And the google translate is:

BIOS updates:

1. Update the latest CPU microcode

2. Fixed the crash restart issue in the case of virtual machine

3, is still full blood full power consumption open version (please pay attention to heat dissipation)

... i haven't tried it. it would be interesting if it fixed that problem with the combo of opnsense inside proxmox.

 

[Mike9474593]

So it seems like changwang may have a new bios for the N5015:

畅网N5105-V3-V4-V5微码更新2023-04-18发布(鸡血版本)

BIOS更新内容：1,更新最新CPU微码2,修复了虚拟机情况下死机重启问题3,依然是满血全功耗开放版本（请自行注意做好散热）

www.changwang.com

And the google translate is:


... i haven't tried it. it would be interesting if it fixed that problem with the combo of opnsense inside proxmox.

See post-374120

I have it installed at my v4. No issues so far, but I'm not running proxmox, just opnsense bare metal

 

[EffEnnK]

Did they reply? I'm having the same issue - the drive works fine in another N5015-based mini PC.

I own a Changwang N5105 V2 since 2022. august. I use it as a home lab Hyper-V host with Windows Server 2019 (1TB NVME and 64GB RAM). Windows Server 2022 is not stable on it as the VM's do BSOD (bot Linux and Windows guests), however the physical machine seems to be stable.

I sent them a question about this firmware update to the V2 last week but they have not answered yet... I have a VGA version with BIOS VER 1.1 dated 2022/04/24.

 

[DomFel]

I sent them a question about this firmware update to the V2 last week but they have not answered yet...

On linux systems that can be fixed just by downloading the intel-microcode. No idea on a windows server machine.

 

[gr8form]

Anyone look into or attempt a coreboot load on these devices? Not suggesting what was discovered with Gigabyte motherboards applies to these systems, but am curious whether another uefi bios option exists; see Supply Chain Risk from Gigabyte App Center Backdoor - Eclypsium | Supply Chain Security for the Modern Enterprise

 

[DomFel]

Anyone look into or attempt a coreboot load on these devices?

Unfortunately the only vendor I've found so far with Coreboot is Protecli, and they don't come cheap nor with i226.

BTW, that Gigabyte backdoor is pretty bad. Hopefully there is no backdoor like that on linux-based OSes.

 

[defizr]

Hi all. First post.

I'm thinking of buying one of these fanless 2.5GB boxes just to experiment with. I have no particular use in mind for it at the moment and I don't want to pay for the full bells and whistles model yet.

It seems that the N5105 is the CPU to have but looking on Aliexpress there are so many makes/variations that it's all a bit confusing.

Is there a current consensus on which make/model/shop it's best to buy from.

I'm in the UK and will be stuck with a 20% tax increase on Aliexpress rises at checkout

TIA.

 

[AnthonyUK]

Hi all. First post.

I'm thinking of buying one of these fanless 2.5GB boxes just to experiment with. I have no particular use in mind for it at the moment and I don't want to pay for the full bells and whistles model yet.

It seems that the N5105 is the CPU to have but looking on Aliexpress there are so many makes/variations that it's all a bit confusing.

Is there a current consensus on which make/model/shop it's best to buy from.

I'm in the UK and will be stuck with a 20% tax increase on Aliexpress rises at checkout

TIA.

I would consider a N100 based one. They are super fast and run so much cooler than the N5x and N6x gen.

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +29.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 0:        +29.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 1:        +29.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 2:        +29.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 3:        +30.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)

Downside is only the one DDR5 RAM slot (upto 32Gb) and the current price.

The better sellers are Topton and CWWK.

 

[defizr]

I would consider a N100 based one. They are super fast and run so much cooler than the N5x and N6x gen.

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +29.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 0:        +29.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 1:        +29.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 2:        +29.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 3:        +30.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)

Downside is only the one DDR5 RAM slot (upto 32Gb) and the current price.

The better sellers are Topton and CWWK.

Thanks for the quick reply. Does the N100 support 2.5 inch SATA drives? I have one going spare that I'd like to use rather than it going to waste.

 

[Becks0815]

Thanks for the quick reply. Does the N100 support 2.5 inch SATA drives? I have one going spare that I'd like to use rather than it going to waste.

Yes and no.

The 4 port boxes have a power connector/power cable for SATA being delivered, but you will need a SATA adapter card for the data connection. I would check if a new drive isn't cheaper than such an adapter and then go with a N100. They are really faster than the N5xxx versions.

 

[AnthonyUK]

The price of NVME have dropped significantly recently (In UK at least) where a 1Tb is around the same price as a 250Gb was late last year.

Example (I purchased one of these recently)

Crucial P3 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe Internal SSD - Up to 3500MB/s - CT1000P3SSD8

Amazon price tracking & price history for Crucial P3 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe Internal SSD - Up to 3500MB/s - CT1000P3SSD8

uk.camelcamelcamel.com

This is my one with 2x NVME