Topton Jasper Lake Quad i225V Mini PC Report

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doomdylan

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I got this GF-1338NP-12 N5105 from AliExpress that was reviewed some time ago and looked perfect for my needs to replace my existing router alongside an AP. Put in 2x16GB DDR4 SO-DIMM's and a 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (which is insanely overkill, I know), but the problem is that I can't get it to power on at all. I've tried a bunch of things, but so far no luck.
  • Cleared CMOS
  • Replaced CMOS battery
  • Only used 1 of 2 RAM sticks in either of the two available slots
  • Tried with and without the SSD
  • Tried different 12V 4A power adapters I have lying around
Not sure what else I can try, but does anyone have any ideas?
This is the listing for it on AliExpress if that's helpful: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804116114245.html
Hi, I have the same board but with N5100.

I think I may help you. As someone suggested before, it may be related to RAM.
I solved a very similar problem by simply replacing the "EC12" capacitor, near RAM slots.
You have to remove the solid state capacitor and put an electrolytic one.
EC12 is 560uF / 6,3V. I replaced it with a Panasonic FM.

The Low ESR of solid state capacitor, may cause some problems.
Vendor talks about "compatibility", in my opinion is just a design flaw.

Try to power on the computer without RAM. If it turns on, I think your problem is the same as mine.
I fixed it 1 year ago, it is working fine 24/24h since then.
In my case sometimes it eventually starts retrying 10/20 times.
When the power-on sequence fails, a protection kicks in and you have to detach the power plug for a couple of seconds to reset.

Just ask if you need more details.
 

miqp

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Hi, I've been successfully running the mini-PC as a server for the past two years, but lately its getting stuck on the BIOS boot screen randomly after a reboot, forcing me to manually reset the CMOS and wait about an hour until it boots.

I've checked the sites and forums where the BIOS updates are supposed to be at, but everything is in Chinese and I'm unsure if it's the corresponding binary for my board.

I would be grateful if someone is able to help me find it and update, I don't want to risk bricking it.
Thanks in advance.

BIOS: GF-1338NP-12-V13
Vendor: Techvision, LLC
Product: TVI7309X
Version 5.19
CPU: N5105
IO: COM, 4x2.5Gb Eth, HDMI, DP, 2xUSB2, 2xUSB3
 

Stovar

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Getting stuck on bios screen? Is it still accessible and you can move up and down in bios?

If its still working in bios and just jumping to bios screen during a reboot or power up, its possible you have to reset bios and then change your boot order devices so its pointing to the correct boot device or the boot device needs to be reset, otherwise it just jumps to the bios screen.

Have you done any diagnostic to see if its other hardware causing the issue? I would disconnect all devices from the external ports ie USB ports, network cables etc, and leave just the AC power cable and hdmi/dp left in and then retry and see if it hangs on bios or not.

Could also be a bad sata or nvme drive, so worth if reloading those or trying another one if you can.
 

miqp

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Getting stuck on bios screen? Is it still accessible and you can move up and down in bios?

If its still working in bios and just jumping to bios screen during a reboot or power up, its possible you have to reset bios and then change your boot order devices so its pointing to the correct boot device or the boot device needs to be reset, otherwise it just jumps to the bios screen.

Have you done any diagnostic to see if its other hardware causing the issue? I would disconnect all devices from the external ports ie USB ports, network cables etc, and leave just the AC power cable and hdmi/dp left in and then retry and see if it hangs on bios or not.

Could also be a bad sata or nvme drive, so worth if reloading those or trying another one if you can.

It's not after every reboot, just sometimes.

When this happens, it will just shows the AMI logo top left through HDMI and that's all it will do.
After holding the reset button, it shows a green Chinese logo and after 30-60 mins the bios will be back as normal.

Currently it's working and has been booting without getting stuck for around a week, but might happen again at any time.

This happened the first time in December after a reboot, only AC and Eth connected. Has only happened 2 times since then.
I've changed the CMOS battery and the NVMe SMART shows the drive is healthy. I doubt the drive is the issue, since the BIOS didn't even manage to load correctly. That's why I think it might be a BIOS bug or corruption.
 

Stovar

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It's not after every reboot, just sometimes.

When this happens, it will just shows the AMI logo top left through HDMI and that's all it will do.
After holding the reset button, it shows a green Chinese logo and after 30-60 mins the bios will be back as normal.

Currently it's working and has been booting without getting stuck for around a week, but might happen again at any time.

This happened the first time in December after a reboot, only AC and Eth connected. Has only happened 2 times since then.
I've changed the CMOS battery and the NVMe SMART shows the drive is healthy. I doubt the drive is the issue, since the BIOS didn't even manage to load correctly. That's why I think it might be a BIOS bug or corruption.
Could be bios issue try resetting it to factory settings via bios menu few times, sometimes its a bad device connected to the system ie nvme/sata drive or even an usb device that can make it hang in bios.

If you remove the nvme, try and restart it several times and see if it gets stuck or not. Same with anything attached on inside of the mini pc, even try 1 ram module (if you got 2)

Worth running memtest, re-pasting cpu paste or checking cpu thermals also to rule out anything.

I think the last resort would be backing up bios and reflashing the latest bios, but its risky if you believe its corrupted. If its under warranty worth a long shot to ask for a replacement motherboard.
 

miqp

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Could be bios issue try resetting it to factory settings via bios menu few times, sometimes its a bad device connected to the system ie nvme/sata drive or even an usb device that can make it hang in bios.

If you remove the nvme, try and restart it several times and see if it gets stuck or not. Same with anything attached on inside of the mini pc, even try 1 ram module (if you got 2)

Worth running memtest, re-pasting cpu paste or checking cpu thermals also to rule out anything.

I think the last resort would be backing up bios and reflashing the latest bios, but its risky if you believe its corrupted. If its under warranty worth a long shot to ask for a replacement motherboard.
Memtest results were ok. It has a Noctua fan connected and replaced the paste with MX-4 around a year ago. Right now with multiple VMs it's at 41ºC, so thermals are not the issue.

I have a CH341A programmer, I could read the flash before updating. I'd say the BIOS is stored in the Winbond 25Q128JVSQ that is located near the battery, between the Ethernet magnetics and and electrolytic capacitor close to the DC input.

The update process would be:
- Remove DC and CMOS battery.
- Dump and verify BIOS using CH341A
- Connect power and USB drive with BIOS updater.
- Enter EFI Shell and run updater.

Did I miss something? Where can I get the updated bios for this model?
 

Stovar

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Sounds the right idea, if you are able to do all that with the bios it maybe worth a try.

Maybe contact the manufacturer and ask for a bios update, you can sometimes go through aliexpress messaging system (ie like topton/cwwk) to get a better response.
 

Ozymandias

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Could you usb boot to the efi shell and run:

fpt.efi -D MyOriginalBios.bin

to dump the bios to the usb stick?
 

cdru

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<tin foil hat>What if the bios was compromised by evil hackers/deep state/grandma and they also hacked the dumping tool to mask itself?</tin foil hat>

More seriously though, that might be a way to verify hashes with a factory version (once acquired) for instance, and it might be better than nothing, but I wouldn't necessarily trust a backup image from a system that may have a bad image.
 

Levent

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I have been having weird problems with my device maybe someone here had it too. If I shut the device down, I cannot use power button to turn it back on. I have remove power, wait 30 to 60 seconds, then plug the power in and turn it back on.

Anyone had anything like it? I guess it could be something like dead CMOS battery but I can see that my BIOS options are always kept intact. Also anyone have any idea what is the latest bios for this device? or where to get it?
 

DARKEASC

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Hi, I have the same board but with N5100.

I think I may help you. As someone suggested before, it may be related to RAM.
I solved a very similar problem by simply replacing the "EC12" capacitor, near RAM slots.
You have to remove the solid state capacitor and put an electrolytic one.
EC12 is 560uF / 6,3V. I replaced it with a Panasonic FM.

The Low ESR of solid state capacitor, may cause some problems.
Vendor talks about "compatibility", in my opinion is just a design flaw.

Try to power on the computer without RAM. If it turns on, I think your problem is the same as mine.
I fixed it 1 year ago, it is working fine 24/24h since then.
In my case sometimes it eventually starts retrying 10/20 times.
When the power-on sequence fails, a protection kicks in and you have to detach the power plug for a couple of seconds to reset.

Just ask if you need more details.
That's exactly mi issue. I just updated the bios but the problem is the same.

My workaround:
- randomly doesn't turn on after a power loss
- remove ram stick and plug power, 3 beeps
- turn off and insert Ram stick
- boots normally

Only works with a 4GB Samsung stick I had lying around, putting it in any slot
With the one of the default 8GB sticks doesn't work

Gotta buy the Panasonic capacitor to check if I can go with more than 4GB RAM.

"In my case sometimes it eventually starts retrying 10/20 times.
When the power-on sequence fails, a protection kicks in and you have to detach the power plug for a couple of seconds to reset"

Do you mean after replacing the cap, it still fails to turn on or just stay in a bootloop? Any visual sign or beeps?
 

doomdylan

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That's exactly mi issue. I just updated the bios but the problem is the same.
Yeah, it is merely an hardware issue.

Gotta buy the Panasonic capacitor to check if I can go with more than 4GB RAM.
To ensure you can fix the problem by replacing that cap, before buying anything, you could temporarily remove that capacitor, the problem should disappear.
Then I suggest to put a capacitor in there as soon as possible, but the computer surprisingly looks ok without it.

Do you mean after replacing the cap, it still fails to turn on or just stay in a bootloop? Any visual sign or beeps?
No, I mean before. It never failed to boot since I've replaced the cap.

Here's an image with the new capacitor in place. As I said it works ok, never ever a boot fail.
rep-cap.jpg
 

DARKEASC

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Yeah, it is merely an hardware issue.


To ensure you can fix the problem by replacing that cap, before buying anything, you could temporarily remove that capacitor, the problem should disappear.
Then I suggest to put a capacitor in there as soon as possible, but the computer surprisingly looks ok without it.


No, I mean before. It never failed to boot since I've replaced the cap.

Here's an image with the new capacitor in place. As I said it works ok, never ever a boot fail.
View attachment 44160
Oh that's great. I will do it right away and make the purchase after the test.

I'm curious, how did you find it was the issue? I was just reading previous post mentioning the high temp for third machines is a big issue for the caps.

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Awesome! It worked, thanks a lot!

The only problem is mysoldering skills...

CapRemoved.jpg
 
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doomdylan

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Oh that's great. I will do it right away and make the purchase after the test.

I'm curious, how did you find it was the issue? I was just reading previous post mentioning the high temp for third machines is a big issue for the caps.

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Awesome! It worked, thanks a lot!

The only problem is mysoldering skills...
Ok, nicely done :)
I was a little frustrated because the computer, once booted was working fine and stable.
Looking in aliexpress complaints, the seller often talks about RAM compatibility.
Then I started to do some tests, tried with BIOS hidden settings, then tried without RAM, 1 stick and then 2.
It looked to me a hardware problem, specifically power supply problem.
Then I started to remove or replace capacitor values, almost randomly, just to watch for any changes (even for bad), to get some clue.
So it was a little intuition and a little lucky.

@doomdylan I was checking the manual for the board and I see the picture doesn't show that capacitor. Is it really needed?
Very interesting. I don't have the manual, never seen that picture.
If you look at Wikipedia (DDR4_SDRAM, Operations), you will see a DDR4 stick needs 2 voltages to work: a primary and auxiliary supply. That capacitor is related to auxiliary supply. I'm not sure what's exactly the purpose of that line, or how much it is needed to be stabilized, but I noticed the PC works without the cap. On the back of the PCB, on the same line, you can spot 2 (if i remember correctly) more little SMD capacitors, maybe those are sufficient.
 

mrpops2ko

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For those who are interested in this very long forum thread, here is a TLDR version.

I used the Instant Data Scraper browser extension to grab the text from all posts on all 147 thread pages (at the time of scraping). Find the txt file attached.
I then uploaded the .txt file to an LLM chat like chatGPT, and proceeded in asking for a summary or other specific info. Feel free to do the same.

shout out to everyone who contributed
interesting idea, here is some of the output i got from 15 or so prompts / reprompts

Thermal and Overheating Issues
Q: My mini PC runs extremely hot. What are the effective methods to lower its temperature?
A:
Users have successfully lowered temperatures through a combination of physical modifications and BIOS adjustments.

  • Fix the Heatsink Gap:The most significant issue reported is a physical gap between the CPU/PCH die and the copper/aluminum heatsink block. This prevents proper thermal transfer to the chassis.
    • File Down Standoffs: Carefully file down the motherboard mounting standoffs/pegs inside the case. This allows the motherboard to sit lower, closing the gap and ensuring direct contact between the CPU and the heatsink. Users report this method provides the most dramatic temperature drop, often by 20-30°C under load.
    • Use Copper Shims: If you prefer not to file the standoffs, adding thin copper shims between the CPU and the heatsink can also bridge the gap.
  • Re-apply Thermal Paste:The factory-applied thermal paste is often excessive, of poor quality, or poorly applied.
    • Clean off all the old paste from the CPU, the heatsink block, and between the block and the aluminum case.
    • Apply a quality thermal paste like Noctua NT-H2, Arctic MX-4, or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. For larger gaps, a high-viscosity paste like K5-Pro has been effective.
  • Add a Fan:Although sold as fanless, adding a fan is a common and effective solution.
    • Internal 40mm Fan: Most chassis versions have mounting holes for a 40x10mm fan on the bottom plate. A quiet fan like the Noctua NF-A4x10 (check for 5V or 12V versions depending on your power source) can significantly cool the RAM and NVMe drive. You can power it from the onboard fan header (if available) or the SATA power connector.
    • External 120mm Fan: Placing a large, low-RPM USB-powered fan on top of or underneath the unit also works well to dissipate heat from the chassis.
  • BIOS Power Tuning:The default BIOS settings are often too aggressive, causing the CPU to draw more power than the chassis can handle.
    • Go to Advanced > Power & Performance > CPU - Power Management Control.
    • Enable PL1 and set the power limit to 10000 (10W).
    • Enable PL2 and set the power limit to 12000 or 15000 (12W-15W).
    • Enable C-states to allow the CPU to enter low-power states when idle.
System Stability and Virtualization (Proxmox)
Q: My virtual machines (VMs) on Proxmox are unstable, freezing, or randomly rebooting. How can I fix this?
A:
This is a widely reported issue, particularly with the N5105 CPU. Users have found success with the following solutions:

  • Update the Proxmox Kernel: The most effective fix appears to be upgrading to a newer Linux kernel. The issue seems to be resolved for most users by installing the Proxmox "edge" kernel (e.g., 5.19 or newer).
  • BIOS Settings:
    • Disable C-States: Paradoxically, while enabling C-states helps with thermals, some users found that disabling them in the BIOS resolved VM stability issues. This comes at the cost of higher idle power consumption.
    • Disable Intel ME (Management Engine): Some users reported improved stability after disabling the Intel ME in the BIOS.
  • VM Configuration:
    • Use PCI Passthrough: Instead of using virtual bridges (vmbr), pass the physical NICs directly through to the VM. This requires enabling IOMMU (VT-d) in the BIOS and grub.
    • BIOS vs. UEFI: Set the VM to use SeaBIOS instead of UEFI.
    • CPU Type: Set the CPU type to "host" in the VM settings to pass through the host CPU's features.
  • Guest OS Settings (pfSense/OPNsense):
    • Disable PowerD in the guest OS (System > Advanced > Miscellaneous).
    • Disable hardware offloading features like Flow Control via system tunables.
Hardware and BIOS Issues
Q: How can I check if I received a retail CPU or an Engineering/Qualification Sample (ES/QS)?
A:
In Windows, you can use tools like CPU-Z or HWiNFO64. They will explicitly label a CPU as "ES" or "QS". Intel's official Processor Identification Tool will also identify engineering samples. In Linux/BSD, you can use the dmidecode -t 4 command and check the "Version" and "Signature" fields for irregularities, though this is less definitive than Windows tools. The presence of a QDF number instead of an S-Spec number is a sure sign of a pre-production CPU.

Q: My system won't detect my NVMe drive or has other hardware compatibility problems. What are the known issues?
A:

  • Dual NVMe Drives: There is a known issue, particularly on V3/V4 boards, where two Samsung NVMe drives will not work together; only one will be detected. The workaround is to use NVMe drives from different manufacturers (e.g., one Samsung and one WD/Seagate/Kingston) or two non-Samsung drives. The problem appears related to the Phison controller on some drives.
  • SATA M.2 Drives: Some users report that M.2 SATA SSDs are not recognized. The M.2 slots appear to be wired for NVMe (PCIe) only.
  • RAM: The units are generally compatible with DDR4 SODIMMs, including single and dual-rank modules up to 32GB (2x16GB). Some users have even successfully run 64GB of RAM, though the official CPU spec is lower.
Q: How do I update the BIOS, and what if a bad flash bricks the device?
A:
The manufacturer CWWK provides BIOS updates on its website. The recommended flashing method is to use Ventoy to create a bootable USB drive with the BIOS .iso file. If a flash fails and there is no video output, CWWK support has provided a "blind flash" recovery method that involves booting from a specially prepared USB drive and pressing specific keys (Enter, then E) at certain intervals to initiate the flash process without a display.

Q: My unit won't boot without a monitor connected. How can I run it headless?
A:
This is a common issue. You can either use a cheap HDMI dummy plug to simulate a connected display or go into the BIOS and change the primary console output from display to the serial port.

Seller and Purchase Advice
Q: I have an issue with my unit and the seller (Topton) is unresponsive. What should I do?
A:
Many users report that sellers like Topton are responsive before a sale but become unhelpful or try to delay until the dispute window closes.

  • File a Dispute Immediately: Do not wait. Use the AliExpress dispute system within the 15-day window after confirming delivery. If that window has passed, file a dispute directly with PayPal or your credit card company.
  • Be Persistent: Clearly document the issue with photos and logs. Reject offers that are unreasonable (e.g., partial refunds for a major fault, or asking you to pay for expensive return shipping on a faulty item).
  • Preferred Seller: The general consensus is that buying directly from the manufacturer's store, CWWK (also appears as Loksing), provides a much better experience with superior build quality, faster shipping, and outstandingly responsive technical support compared to resellers like Topton or KingNovy.
Power Supply and PoE
Q: The power supply included with my mini PC seems cheap and unreliable. What are some recommended replacements?
A:
Many users report that the stock Dajing power adapters are of low quality and can be unreliable. For improved stability and safety, users have successfully switched to power supplies from reputable brands like Mean Well (e.g., GST40A12, GST60A12) or an Anker Nano IIUSB-C PD charger paired with a USB-C to DC barrel adapter cable. The required barrel plug size for these devices is typically 5.5mm x 2.5mm. Note that some replacement power supplies may come with a 5.5mm x 2.1mm plug, which would require a simple adapter to fit.[1]

Q: Is it possible to run these mini PCs using Power over Ethernet (PoE)?
A:
Yes, users have successfully powered their units with PoE+ splitters. You will need a splitter that supports the 802.3at (PoE+) standard and is capable of delivering at least 24W at 12V. Models from DSLRKIT and HKBTM have been reported to work well. Be aware that you may need to manually configure your PoE switch to guarantee the full power budget to the port, as some splitters may not correctly negotiate the required power level via LLDP.[1]

Q: I can't get keyboard input on the RJ45 serial console port. How do I fix it?
A:
The inability to send commands through the serial port is due to a non-standard pinout. The port is not wired like a typical Cisco console port. While the output pin might align, the input (RX) pin is located on pin 5 instead of the more common pin 3. To resolve this, you must use a console cable with a compatible pinout, such as one designed for an Allied Telesyn device, or create your own custom-wired adapter.[1]

Q: What is the latest operating system support for the newer i226-V NICs?
A:
As of late 2022, support for the i226-V NIC is mature in most modern operating systems:

  • pfSense: Not supported in the stable CE 2.6 release. However, it is fully supported in pfSense Plus 22.05 and the developmental pfSense CE 2.7 snapshots.[1]
  • OPNsense: Works out-of-the-box in versions 22.7 and newer.[1]
  • Linux (Proxmox, Ubuntu, etc.): Supported by modern Linux kernels. It has been confirmed to work in Proxmox 7.2, Ubuntu 22.04, and recent VyOS nightlies.[1]
  • Windows: Still requires a manual driver installation using the driver package from Intel's website, as the drivers are not yet available through Windows Update.[1]
 
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I think one missing part in most GPT/LLM summaries are validation of the contents. Due to the formatting and language it often seems like "this must be a correct fact", but at the end of the day they are forum posts which aren't as easy to check.
 
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Levent

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Yeah, it is merely an hardware issue.


To ensure you can fix the problem by replacing that cap, before buying anything, you could temporarily remove that capacitor, the problem should disappear.
Then I suggest to put a capacitor in there as soon as possible, but the computer surprisingly looks ok without it.


No, I mean before. It never failed to boot since I've replaced the cap.

Here's an image with the new capacitor in place. As I said it works ok, never ever a boot fail.
View attachment 44160
I actually ordered caps a while back after seeing this post I forgot that they were sitting on my parts drawer, todays message notifications made me realize what I was supposed to and, replacing the said cap with an electrolytic one indeed also fixed my erratic post/boot issues.

Thanks!

I have been having weird problems with my device maybe someone here had it too. If I shut the device down, I cannot use power button to turn it back on. I have remove power, wait 30 to 60 seconds, then plug the power in and turn it back on.

Anyone had anything like it? I guess it could be something like dead CMOS battery but I can see that my BIOS options are always kept intact. Also anyone have any idea what is the latest bios for this device? or where to get it?
 

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Hello, maybe someone can help understand the problem.
I dohave a topton device with N6000 CPU, the motherboard is BKHD‑1338NP‑12‑4L and this motherboard have a SIM slot.I bought Quectel EC25-EUX it work with opnsense but "AT+CPIN?" command return SIM not inserted. Is the SIM slot on this motherboard fake or what?