Very interesting chart. So is there a way to edit "TEMPERATURE _TARGET" so that the motherboard will start ramping up the CPU fans a little bit earlier? I don't have my computer in front of me, but does the "CPU temperature" max variable that can be altered via IPMItool the same as the "TEMPERATURE_TARGET" variable?
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BTW, the value "3" is not skipped. It's available on some board like mine: X9DRT
It's mean: Set Fan to PUE(Power Utilization Effectiveness) Optimal Speed
It's mean: Set Fan to PUE(Power Utilization Effectiveness) Optimal Speed
Awesome. Working on a X11SPH-NCTF. I just changed out the fans on a Roswell RSV-R4000 case with Noctua PWM fans and couldn't get the CPU fan to stop pulsing. When ipmi fan mode was set to optimal or standard the system was having a hissy fit when a fan dropped below the threshold value. Setting the mode to full and controlling speeds with ipmitool was instant relief both on the ears and also knowing I didn't make a mistake with buying new PWM fans. So thank you
If I can add one thing to all this. If I set my "Zone 1" values too low (120mm fans on the disks) and the speed drops below the threshold, all my good work is undone and IPMI takes over and everything is running at full speed. To overcome this I lowered the IPMI threshold values for the individual fans and now I can sit next to my server peacefully. I would like to say in silence but now I can hear my 8 SAS drives.
Lower the IPMI fan speed thresholds
"sensor thresh <id> lower <lnr> <lcr> <lnc>"
I.E.
If I can add one thing to all this. If I set my "Zone 1" values too low (120mm fans on the disks) and the speed drops below the threshold, all my good work is undone and IPMI takes over and everything is running at full speed. To overcome this I lowered the IPMI threshold values for the individual fans and now I can sit next to my server peacefully. I would like to say in silence but now I can hear my 8 SAS drives.
Lower the IPMI fan speed thresholds
"sensor thresh <id> lower <lnr> <lcr> <lnc>"
I.E.
Code:
root@pve:~# ipmitool sensor thresh FANA lower 100 225 300
Locating sensor record 'FANA'...
Setting sensor "FANA" Lower Non-Recoverable threshold to 100.000
Setting sensor "FANA" Lower Critical threshold to 225.000
Setting sensor "FANA" Lower Non-Critical threshold to 300.000
root@pve:~# ipmitool sensor thresh FANB lower 100 225 300
.....etc.....
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@BLinux
Responding from my phone. I can check my X9DRW-iF board when I get a moment.
But IIRC, the commands are different between BMC.
For example X9 with ATEN
FAQ Entry | Online Support | Support - Super Micro Computer, Inc.
Responding from my phone. I can check my X9DRW-iF board when I get a moment.
But IIRC, the commands are different between BMC.
For example X9 with ATEN
FAQ Entry | Online Support | Support - Super Micro Computer, Inc.
These two work on my x9srw that has IPMI fw 3.39.
ipmitool raw 0x30 0x91 0x5A 0x3 0x10 0x7f
ipmitool raw 0x30 0x91 0x5A 0x3 0x11 0x7f
0xff is 100% duty cycle. 0x7f is 50%.
I also have a x9dri-ln4f+ and a x9drw-f. Neither the above two commands nor
ipmitool raw 0x30 0x70 0x66 0x01 0x00 0x32
work. I would be eternally grateful if anybody could point me to the right IPMI fw version and right raw commands for these boards.
ipmitool raw 0x30 0x91 0x5A 0x3 0x10 0x7f
ipmitool raw 0x30 0x91 0x5A 0x3 0x11 0x7f
0xff is 100% duty cycle. 0x7f is 50%.
I also have a x9dri-ln4f+ and a x9drw-f. Neither the above two commands nor
ipmitool raw 0x30 0x70 0x66 0x01 0x00 0x32
work. I would be eternally grateful if anybody could point me to the right IPMI fw version and right raw commands for these boards.
I agree. None of the intermediate speed commands work on X9DRW-iF. Just the Standard, Optimum, Heavy I/O and Full.
I've set it to optimal and gave up. I have Nidec 0.3A fans and run about 2000 rpm. Can't recall the SM part# just swapped out the housing. I've gotten accustomed to the noise. Interestingly same fans ran at a higher speed on X10DRI-T4+ board.
I'm on the latest IPMI FW 2.74. The listed version for this motherbord is 2.59. I think I was having issue with IPMIView iKVM console and SMC suport provided the newer firmware. If anyone needs it, search for SMM_X9 and grab the 2.74. As you can see there are two variants SMM & SMT for IPMI. I've asked SMC support If I can use the latest on SMM or SMT for a specific board, they said they have to test in their lab on respective board before releasing it to public. So technically if your board uses SMT_??, you should be able to use the higher version on this page. But since the BMC can be finicky, I didn't want to update without their blessing.
SMC X9 BIOS-IPMI
I've set it to optimal and gave up. I have Nidec 0.3A fans and run about 2000 rpm. Can't recall the SM part# just swapped out the housing. I've gotten accustomed to the noise. Interestingly same fans ran at a higher speed on X10DRI-T4+ board.
I'm on the latest IPMI FW 2.74. The listed version for this motherbord is 2.59. I think I was having issue with IPMIView iKVM console and SMC suport provided the newer firmware. If anyone needs it, search for SMM_X9 and grab the 2.74. As you can see there are two variants SMM & SMT for IPMI. I've asked SMC support If I can use the latest on SMM or SMT for a specific board, they said they have to test in their lab on respective board before releasing it to public. So technically if your board uses SMT_??, you should be able to use the higher version on this page. But since the BMC can be finicky, I didn't want to update without their blessing.
SMC X9 BIOS-IPMI
regarding ipmi raw fan control commands on the X9DRD-7LN4F, i sent Supermicro support an email and this was their reply:
I'm on IPMI/BMC firmware 3.39. Anyone with a X9DRD-7LN4F on an older version of firmware? If so, can you see if the fan control ipmi commands work on older versions?
I solved my noisy build by changing the 140mm fans I have on the side of my build. It's a X9DRG-QF in a Lian Li PC-A75X case. CPU coolers are from SM (probably the ones that came with the board initially) and case fans are the ones that came with the Lian Li case.
First changed the fan speed mode in the IPMI interface from full speed to standard mode. After that I heard the fans spin up and down constantly.
A few minutes ago I changed the Noctua NF-A14 PWM 140mm's to Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 140mm's (FANC and FAND). It's now way more silent. No headphones needed anymore when powered on.
Looks like the problem is the minimum RPM on the NF-A14 PWM's, which is 300 RPM. The NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM's are 500 RPM minimum. Read that somewhere on the internet and just gave it a go. Haven't done any extensive testing yet though.
Edit: just saw IPMI saying they run at 675 RPM @ idle system
First changed the fan speed mode in the IPMI interface from full speed to standard mode. After that I heard the fans spin up and down constantly.
A few minutes ago I changed the Noctua NF-A14 PWM 140mm's to Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 140mm's (FANC and FAND). It's now way more silent. No headphones needed anymore when powered on.
Looks like the problem is the minimum RPM on the NF-A14 PWM's, which is 300 RPM. The NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM's are 500 RPM minimum. Read that somewhere on the internet and just gave it a go. Haven't done any extensive testing yet though.
Edit: just saw IPMI saying they run at 675 RPM @ idle system
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noctua is luxurious fans. I usually use artic F12/F14 PWM PST CO, dual ball bearing low noise. the price is not expensive.I solved my noisy build by changing the 140mm fans I have on the side of my build. It's a X9DRG-QF in a Lian Li PC-A75X case. CPU coolers are from SM (probably the ones that came with the board initially) and case fans are the ones that came with the Lian Li case.
First changed the fan speed mode in the IPMI interface from full speed to standard mode. After that I heard the fans spin up and down constantly.
A few minutes ago I changed the Noctua NF-A14 PWM 140mm's to Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 140mm's (FANC and FAND). It's now way more silent. No headphones needed anymore when powered on.
Looks like the problem is the minimum RPM on the NF-A14 PWM's, which is 300 RPM. The NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM's are 500 RPM minimum. Read that somewhere on the internet and just gave it a go. Haven't done any extensive testing yet though.
Edit: just saw IPMI saying they run at 675 RPM @ idle system
does IPMI trigger Fan Warning due to <800RPM? my Tyan board triggers the warning due to 140mm fan is running ~700RPM,
Noctua is indeed not cheap, but my experience with them are good.
I can't recall if it gave me a warning in IPMI. I don't think so. Just did some searches on the Internet for this issue and the 500 RPM minimum seemed a good explanation. Gambled on that and it worked. Yesterday I did some testing and the system is now way more silent, even under load. Tested with BOINC with 2x GPU and 2x Xeon at max for over 2 hours. The new fans reached a maximum of 1350 RPM according to IPMI.
I can't recall if it gave me a warning in IPMI. I don't think so. Just did some searches on the Internet for this issue and the 500 RPM minimum seemed a good explanation. Gambled on that and it worked. Yesterday I did some testing and the system is now way more silent, even under load. Tested with BOINC with 2x GPU and 2x Xeon at max for over 2 hours. The new fans reached a maximum of 1350 RPM according to IPMI.
I have changed the limits on my x11 and here is an video with the details for it.
It depends on the a) what the lower thresholds are set to and b) the specific fan I think; my 120mm noctua had a minimum speed at ~300rpm, but I ran into a problem where I couldn't stop them spinning down further than that (since the noctua has its own internal management IC), which meant the IPMI kept thinking they'd failed as they read 0rpm (cue ramping up all PWM to max duty cycle, resulting in the "surging" problem). If your fans are still reading 700 you just need to tweak the thresholds (not sure if Tyan's will work the same as the SMs though).
It seems to be an intrinsic problem with some noctua's, to the extent that I had to swap out the fans in this particular system.
Tyan S5533 has only CR Field, others are NA, this is totally different with supermicro mobo that I own,,
I did:
ipmitool sensor thres SYS_FAN_1 lcr 560 (front fan)
pmitool sensor thres SYS_FAN_2 lcr 560 (back fan)
thanks guys, remind me to back to STH after hibernating for almost 3 years
this is great info. THANKS!
For those that DO want the normal SM IPMI fan curve, but simply want it at a REDUCED curve (ie you still want IPMI to gradually up/down the fan speeds based upon temperatures its reads) there is a hardware option.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072M2HKSN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
this noctura fan controller is EXCELLENT. (as usual with nocturnal). it allows you to have a physical dial to set your 4-pin pwm fan's speed. but whats unique about it- it also can take a 4pin fan connector (from MB) as INPUT, and then adjust fans connected to IT (the noctura) based upon the speeds the MB is telling that fan header to spin at. So in this configuration, the physical dial on this nocturnal fan controller acts as an OFFSET for your IPMI's fan curve.
Im using this exact setup on 2x , 2u x10 DRU-i+ setups where for some reason IPMI has the fans idle at 4600rpm (too loud), even though temps are low/normal. its working great to keep the idle fan speeds low/quite , but if needed for heat they can spin up (if MB/IPMI tells them to).
(ofcouse you can do this same thing with a script + ipmitool, as a few great ones have been written, but i was looking for something a bit more "permanent/solid" as ESXi does not have ipmitool, nor did i want to worry about a remote VM running a script against this remote box).
on caviet - it does seem to have a injection molded sata power connector (a quick google search for Sata power connector fire , will show why these types of injecton molded sata connectors can be dangerious). however i have been assured by noctura support, that they tested their connectors extensively (FWIW). I personally still soldered and heatshrink'd a normal molex connector onto the 4x of these units i have running in servers.
(one note on this reference doc, while this is stated, imo its not very clear- if you manually set/override the actual fan speeds (via first setting fan mode to full), then the ipmi controller will not adjust the speeds based on the temperature at all (ie no fan curve will be used, or rather the fan curve will be a flat line at whatever you set the PWM % to). I tried to test if you pass the high alert CPU temp threshold (ie ~95c , ) would reset back to the fan curve and kick the fans back to 100% , but i wasnt able to get my cpu hot enough. I just wanted to add this info incase others read it. (again this was stated in the article, so maybe it was just me)
For those that DO want the normal SM IPMI fan curve, but simply want it at a REDUCED curve (ie you still want IPMI to gradually up/down the fan speeds based upon temperatures its reads) there is a hardware option.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072M2HKSN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
this noctura fan controller is EXCELLENT. (as usual with nocturnal). it allows you to have a physical dial to set your 4-pin pwm fan's speed. but whats unique about it- it also can take a 4pin fan connector (from MB) as INPUT, and then adjust fans connected to IT (the noctura) based upon the speeds the MB is telling that fan header to spin at. So in this configuration, the physical dial on this nocturnal fan controller acts as an OFFSET for your IPMI's fan curve.
Im using this exact setup on 2x , 2u x10 DRU-i+ setups where for some reason IPMI has the fans idle at 4600rpm (too loud), even though temps are low/normal. its working great to keep the idle fan speeds low/quite , but if needed for heat they can spin up (if MB/IPMI tells them to).
(ofcouse you can do this same thing with a script + ipmitool, as a few great ones have been written, but i was looking for something a bit more "permanent/solid" as ESXi does not have ipmitool, nor did i want to worry about a remote VM running a script against this remote box).
on caviet - it does seem to have a injection molded sata power connector (a quick google search for Sata power connector fire , will show why these types of injecton molded sata connectors can be dangerious). however i have been assured by noctura support, that they tested their connectors extensively (FWIW). I personally still soldered and heatshrink'd a normal molex connector onto the 4x of these units i have running in servers.
(one note on this reference doc, while this is stated, imo its not very clear- if you manually set/override the actual fan speeds (via first setting fan mode to full), then the ipmi controller will not adjust the speeds based on the temperature at all (ie no fan curve will be used, or rather the fan curve will be a flat line at whatever you set the PWM % to). I tried to test if you pass the high alert CPU temp threshold (ie ~95c , ) would reset back to the fan curve and kick the fans back to 100% , but i wasnt able to get my cpu hot enough. I just wanted to add this info incase others read it. (again this was stated in the article, so maybe it was just me)
That is neat quick solution and very useful to whom needs quick solution and do not mind paying $$
This only lengthen PWM through potentiometer (to let the fan running slower). and "no stop" is monitoring minimum 300RPM for the fan when is enabled
For DIY and thinkering:
mini arduino clone with minimal parts can do this, but you need to program. :-D for cheap. monitoring RPM can be looped back via USB serial from clone arduino.
I did some PWM controller in the past, and start working in my spare time to control and monitor fans for TS440 (fans rpm do not show in lm-sensors and no way to control RPM). monitoring and controlling ( fan speed via PWM) can be accessed via usb serial ( similar like arduino serial monitor)
After having looked for weeks now to stop the BMC from revving up all fans after it fails to properly read RPM values (every x minutes, a random FAN was at 0 RPM, which is a big fat lie). Now that I've set fan speed to full and set speeds similar to yours, I finally have a silent NAS in my living room. A BIG thank you from me!