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MattRo

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@JaxJiang - sorry to pile-on, but I also have 96GB Crucial RAM and am experiencing the regular platform hang issue with the latest Intel microcode. If there's a new BIOS available to try I'd be very keen to have it please.
 

r3dux

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Hi @JaxJiang , can I also get the 1.25 beta bios as well?
Could anyone please post changelog for 1.25 (Release_Note.txt)?
Thank you.
 

TheMark

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One more data point: since flashing the 1.25 beta BIOS it's been rock solid. Under load now for 15 days, wouldn't stay up for more than 3-4 previously. This is looking like it might actually have fixed the issue. Looking forward to the official release!

96GB (2x48) Crucial CT48G56C46S5 @ 5200 MT/s.
Any update after another week? I'm at the tipping point of returning this machine if 1.25 doesn't resolve the issue. I requested access to the GDrive but it hasn't been approved after 2 days.
 

dragoonkain

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Hi @JaxJiang , like many others I am experiencing the same issues with my I9-13900H MS-01 with 96GB (2x48) Crucial CT48G56C46S5 @ 5200 MT/s kit, same as @kitley the unit will only be stable for at best 3-4 days. I would like to try the v1.25 bios to see if it resolves the issue. Thanks!
 

mspina

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Same here, I have 4x MS-01 i9-13900H running Proxmox on 96GB Crucial on BIOS v1.22 and they have been pretty unstable. One of the instance is able to go for 5 to 10 days, but the other three froze every few days. @JaxJiang I would like to test the 1.25 BIOS to see if it is providing better stability. All instances are running the latest microcode.
 

sciotaxa

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echoing the above, I have an MS-01 i9-13900H + 96GB Crucial memory and would love to resolve the stability issues I'm seeing. @JaxJiang I would be happy to test out the BIOS!
 

Stealthy

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So I'm running the 1.25 firmware and it seems stable.

However, the latest revision (revision2) of 1.25 disables all power modes like C states etc, I re-enabled the C states to keep the CPU not running at full peak as well as changed the CPU performance to max instead of max turbo.

Otherwise I was getting 85c+ on CPU and fans whirring
 

spencer1208

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Hello @JaxJiang. I am facing sporadic issues with my MS-01 and 2x 48GB Crucial Memory and came across that awesome forum. Could you please send me the beta BIOS for testing? Your help is much appreciated. Thank you very much.
 

Filou

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I have successfully installed the BIOS version 1.25 and the MS-01 with the 96GB Crucial RAM has not crashed since then. However, I can no longer run virtual machines in Proxmox, it seems. If I do, the VM crashes after 15 minutes at the latest, the fans get extremely loud and only a shutdown of the VM helps. All LXC containers run without any problems, even in the crashed VM state. Could this have something to do with the BIOS? Have any of you noticed this? Now I am also a Proxmox beginner, which is not so helpful for troubleshooting.
 

Stealthy

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I have successfully installed the BIOS version 1.25 and the MS-01 with the 96GB Crucial RAM has not crashed since then. However, I can no longer run virtual machines in Proxmox, it seems. If I do, the VM crashes after 15 minutes at the latest, the fans get extremely loud and only a shutdown of the VM helps. All LXC containers run without any problems, even in the crashed VM state. Could this have something to do with the BIOS? Have any of you noticed this? Now I am also a Proxmox beginner, which is not so helpful for troubleshooting.
I think you'll find it's overheating.

Go into the BIOS and re-enable the CPU C states. Also chnage thr CPU performance from Max turbo to just MAX (it's the middle option in the drop down list).

They have disabled all power saving functions and the cooling just can't keep up.

Let us know how you go?
 

Filou

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I have reactivated CPU C-States, set the CPU to MAX (non Turbo) and throttled the RAM to 4400 MHz. Nevertheless, the Home Assistant VM hangs again after 19 minutes this time.
I can actually use Windows 11 as a VM, but the fans spin up enormously. It's frustrating that I can't even get Home Assistant VM to run (I've recreated the VM countless times)...
 

Inferno68

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I have reactivated CPU C-States, set the CPU to MAX (non Turbo) and throttled the RAM to 4400 MHz. Nevertheless, the Home Assistant VM hangs again after 19 minutes this time.
I can actually use Windows 11 as a VM, but the fans spin up enormously. It's frustrating that I can't even get Home Assistant VM to run (I've recreated the VM countless times)...
Were you able to figure out the issue ? Temperatures can be checked in the shell and I guess it is not related to temps.
 

Filou

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Were you able to figure out the issue ? Temperatures can be checked in the shell and I guess it is not related to temps.
The temperatures were not to blame, no. I don't really know what's going on and I haven't had time to do any in-depth research. But I was able to help myself by migrating the Home Assistant VM to another node (Intel NUC) in the cluster. I have 2 x MS-01 and 1 x Intel NUC in the cluster and now it works for the time being in that the MS-01 no longer has to deal with Home Assistant.
 

TheMark

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Hello @JaxJiang

Could you please provide an update on progress towards a permanent resolution for this situation? Additionally, will there be an official BIOS release on your site?

Thank you!
 
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zubilitic

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This is getting a bit frustrating.
I have been using so far ESXi-8.0U3-24022510 on my MS-01 with 13th gen CPU and I am getting, on an average, weekly PSODs.
Now, the idea was moving to Proxmox but I see there are a lot of issues here also.

I am starting to think buying this product was not the brightest idea.
Nevertheless, I will have to make the move to Proxmox and see what results I will get because for sure ESXi with this setup is not reliable anymore.