ES Xeon Discussion

cij

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@Evan thanks for your feedback. Do you know what is the maximum power usage of the E5 2630l V4 so that I can make a calculation for myself.

Thanks
 

Evan

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@Evan thanks for your feedback. Do you know what is the maximum power usage of the E5 2630l V4 so that I can make a calculation for myself.

Thanks
Sorry don’t know but idle of all the 10 cores should be essentially save, I have an e5-2640v4 I can throw in a board and test but probably won’t get to it before new year, I plan to use an X10SRH so it has SAS so maybe not a great indication, I was thinking to try a minimum power 2640v4 build based on X10SRM and use 12v only etc.
I was pretty sure 30-40w idle should be possible.

2630v4,2630lv4,2640v4 should all idle same, max power usage should be less for the ‘l’ chip
 

Rand__

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I ran a few comparisons with E5 vs E3 idle power consumption and E3 came ahead by a good margin (30w vs sth around 55w).

I had not been able to push E5 <50W with standard activated components (x10sri iirc), but I have not tried to the extreme level since the difference was good enough for my use case. E5 CPU was 2630Lv4 M0 - would have to see if I have any notes left.
 

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Here is a quick power consumption shot from my setup that has now been built - Supermicro X10SRM-F, Xeon E5-2630L V4 QK3K, 32GB DDR4 ECC. 60GB M.2 SSD, HP P410 SAS card with 4 intel ssds (RAID10) and 2 7200rpm western digitals (RAID1). Running off a Rosewill 650W gold psu. Noctua narrow ilm cooler and 3 120mm case fans.

I forgot to grab complete idle power draw but this is it running ESXi with a single active server 2012 VM using 4 cores and 8GB of ram, the VM was hosting 12 players on KF2 whilst I took that photo. 71W isn't too bad. It was hitting 77W at some points and dipping to 69W at others.







I'll try and shut down the VM and grab the power consumption whilst it's completely idle.
 
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Kat

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Here is a quick power consumption shot from my setup that has now been built - Supermicro X10SRM-F, Xeon E5-2630L V4 QK3K, 32GB DDR4 ECC. 60GB M.2 SSD, HP P410 SAS card with 4 intel ssds (RAID10) and 2 7200rpm western digitals (RAID1). Running off a Rosewill 650W gold psu. Noctua narrow ilm cooler and 3 120mm case fans.

I forgot to grab complete idle power draw but this is it running ESXi with a single active server 2012 VM using 4 cores and 8GB of ram, the VM was hosting 12 players on KF2 whilst I took that photo. 71W isn't too bad. It was hitting 77W at some points and dipping to 69W at others.







I'll try and shut down the VM and grab the power consumption whilst it's completely idle.
I'm running 2x xeon E5-2650L V4 at 70-80W idle on a supermicro x10drl-it (probably can squeeze 5W more by disabling 10GB-T adapters) , (1 WD BLUE + 1 PCIE NVME drive). At full load it hits 150-170.
What is your idle and full load power draw?
 

cij

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I'm running 2x xeon E5-2650L V4 at 70-80W idle on a supermicro x10drl-it (probably can squeeze 5W more by disabling 10GB-T adapters) , (1 WD BLUE + 1 PCIE NVME drive). At full load it hits 150-170.
@Kat sounds good and it's a very cool setup. I think you can do a lot with your system.

What is your idle and full load power draw?
@Anarki, that would be nice if you could share idle and maximum usage data

Thanks in advanced
 

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Hi Guys ,can you advice me the most suitable motherboard for two e5-4667 V3 QS, please...)
 

Riok

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Hello there,

Thank you for the thread, very informative :) I wanted to get an X99 mother board and wait for cheap xeons coming but I wasn't patient enough :p So I picked:

MSI X99 GAMING PRO for 100€
2*4 GB ECC REG DDR4 for 20€
XEON 1650v3 ES for 150€

I will receive the xeon in 2/3 weeks and can make some tests then. It is a QEZ0, bought from armyourdesk on ebay. Does anyone knows if that is a good pick ? The CPU-Z screenshot indicates Model F and stepping 1. I looked at cpu-world but couldn't get any clue. The same QZE0 type is also on sale on Aliexpress and there is another screenshot from HWInfo which indicates it is an ES2 and the stepping is L0. I read somewhere in the thread that ES2 was generally ok to use. So what do you think about this build and this ES cpu ? Is it fine or am I running for troubles ?
 

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Hi ppl

i've recenty purchase a pair(third, because i belive one of the units have a phisical damage, but learn more in internet, seems all the units is OK) of E5-2650-v4 ES QHV6 for my relativey new z10pe-d8 (RMAded for add support the V4 processors)
Code:
└───╼  cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 79
model name      : Genuine Intel(R) CPU 0000 @ 2.20GHz
stepping        : 0
microcode       : 0x14
cpu MHz         : 2195.142
cache size      : 30720 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 24
core id         : 0
cpu cores       : 12
apicid          : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 20
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vm
x smx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l3 cdp_l3 invpcid_single pti intel_ppin intel_pt tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 hle avx2 smep bmi2 erm
s invpcid rtm cqm rdt_a rdseed adx smap xsaveopt cqm_llc cqm_occup_llc cqm_mbm_total cqm_mbm_local dtherm arat pln pts
bugs            : cpu_meltdown
bogomips        : 4392.21
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

i have isues in my linux (archlinux) 4.14.13 (and older) kernel about MCE errors

Code:
└───╼  dmesg | grep mce                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
[    0.069192] mce: CPU supports 22 MCE banks
[    0.113349] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged
[    0.113351] mce: [Hardware Error]: CPU 0: Machine Check: 0 Bank 7: fe00034000010091
[    0.113356] mce: [Hardware Error]: TSC 0 ADDR 36c566340 MISC 401c1c86
[    0.113361] mce: [Hardware Error]: PROCESSOR 0:406f0 TIME 1515715090 SOCKET 0 APIC 0 microcode 14
i have this randomly when try to load a heavy work (build chromium, for example) or simple when the pc is in idle


seems not exist new microcode for this cpu, and i think never do exist anymore


any one have the same problems in linux with the Broadwell ES cpus? is fixable? or need try got/change to OEM processors?

i try boot with this:

Code:
processor.max_cstate=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=0 idle=poll
like say in this: Bug #1509764 “Machine Check Exception with Broadwell CPU” : Bugs : intel-microcode package : Ubuntu. no sucess


also i try with disable cstates/speedstep(?)/Xstates/etc in the UEFI (3407), no sucess :(


any help?

greetings
 
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Ragnar

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Hi,

I am interested by a Xeon E3-1275L v3 ES (QFZR) with a 30-day warranty. I have no stepping/revision informations about this CPU.

I asked the seller for informations, to send me a cpu-z screenshot but "we do not do this". And he just added "ES don’t turn off features, they turn on extra features so the manufacturers can test with them".

Did you hear (bad) things about this ES CPU ?

Thanks ;)
 

chbmb

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Hi,

I am interested by a Xeon E3-1275L v3 ES (QFZR) with a 30-day warranty. I have no stepping/revision informations about this CPU.

I asked the seller for informations, to send me a cpu-z screenshot but "we do not do this". And he just added "ES don’t turn off features, they turn on extra features so the manufacturers can test with them".

Did you hear (bad) things about this ES CPU ?

Thanks ;)
I'd find a different seller if that were me......

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Riok

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You bought it so one way to find out is to just try it out and see what it will do
Hello,

I have not posted feedback on the thread yet because I havn't properly tested the CPU. I just got an heatsink this week so I'll be able to bench it soon.

They ship real fast, I had it in a few days. Packaging is good. The product was there. I didn't pay enought attention on ebay's page but this one as a lower speed than the retail model. I just got it to POST, then the temps increase quickly without any heatsink so I turned the power off before 80°c. I asked on a forum if the temps were normal for a processor without an heatsink and even the 15 years + hardware old timers were shocked I would even do that. Hum hum.

So yeah, I got it, it POSTs and it fits the product description. That's all I can say for now, I cannot tell if the temps are normal.

Voilà :)
 

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I have a question regarding selling my Xeon v3 and v4 ES CPUs and matching motherboards:

As I have switched to AMD Threadripper and being quite happy with my current setup I am looking to sell the following items on Ebay or potentially via private transaction:

1x Asus Z10PE-D8 WS motherboard
1x Supermicro X10DAi motherboard
2x Intel Xeon E5-2690 v3 ES, QEYJ(ES2)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 v4 ES, QHV6

My question is whether there might be wider interest if I sell each component individually or whether I should bundle the CPU pairs each with a motherboard? I have tested and actually worked with any of the 4 combination between motherboards and CPUs and they are confirmed to perfectly work in Windows 10, Windows Server 2016, ESXi, Unraid, running Virtual Machines and the like. Might it add value to sell them as a motherboard/CPU combination as they are proven to work or any other opinions? This is strictly not a post to solicit interest but merely asking for advice.
 

Riok

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I have a question regarding selling my Xeon v3 and v4 ES CPUs and matching motherboards [...] Might it add value to sell them as a motherboard/CPU combination as they are proven to work or any other opinions?
I would say yes, it is certainly interesting to buy an ES with a guarantee that it's usable.

I would recommend to try to sell first a bundle with any combination of cpu/mb. If you receive offers from different people for both a cpu and a mb then sell both.
 

KNO

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I found this thread searching for information on Xeon CPUs.

I purchased a second hand computer to do some heavy computing tasks. It was supposed to have 2 x Xeon E5-2690v3 CPUs.


The CPUs are marked as follows:

Intel Xeon E5-2690V3

SR1XN 2.60GHz

So the sSpec is SR1XN. According to CPU-World SR1XN is supposed to be the production version.


However, the CPUs are not recognized as E5-2690V3 by the motherboard (with updated bios) and the speed is set to 2.40Ghz, not 2.6GHz as per E5-2690V3 specification.


HWiNFO gives med the following information about the CPU:

Intel Xeon-2400

Stepping: L0

QDF: QEYJ (ES2)


To me it looks like these CPUs are engineering samples, even though they are marked with final sSpec. Am I correct? Do you have any suggestions on how to interpret this information?
 

KNO

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Thanks.

It looks to me like they are likely engineering samples. What do you think of the stepping and QDF? I don’t have much experience interpreting that. The seller did not experience any issues when using the workstation, however I am a bit sceptical if it will stand up to heavy use over time.

Stepping: L0

QDF: QEYJ (ES2)

What do you think?
 

Rand__

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Its a late stepping which usually should not exhibit significant issues. You can never be sure o/c especially if you use uncommon features or very heavy load, but most ppl run ES fine.
No idea re this specific CPU, sorry.

The major downer o/c is that its ES at all (-> slower and not genuine which leads to a significant price cut if you want to sell again).