ES Xeon Discussion

[spicysnow]

try this oldest available BIOS 7X20T_1.0.3

Thanks. Since i'm new to ES world how can i know which ES cpu's to buy ?.

 

[RolloZ170]

Thanks. Since i'm new to ES world how can i know which ES cpu's to buy ?.

none. QS and SKL prod.units are cheap and ES not cheap enough to take the disadvantages.
i.e. QNFC is Gold 6130 QS(does not display type) you can get it for $180 usd, runs on ALL boards.
at the moment i sell two Gold 5120 QS, 340 EUR for both, and so on.

 

[spicysnow]

none. QS and SKL prod.units are cheap and ES not cheap enough to take the disadvantages.
i.e. QNFC is Gold 6130 QS(does not display type) you can get it for $180 usd, runs on ALL boards.
at the moment i sell two Gold 5120 QS, 340 EUR for both, and so on.

Ok thanks . Btw that QS would work without needing to downgrade bios since its basically a retail chip :?

 

[RolloZ170]

Ok thanks . Btw that QS would work without needing to downgrade bios since its basically a retail chip :?

QS is same stepping, just ES bit set to prevent be sold as CPU with warranty.
i.e. a Skylake QS works on ALL BIOS. for Cascade Lake QS you need BIOS for 2nd Gen Scalables, this still supports SKL QS.

 

[spicysnow]

QS is same stepping, just ES bit set to prevent be sold as CPU with warranty.
i.e. a Skylake QS works on ALL BIOS. for Cascade Lake QS you need BIOS for 2nd Gen Scalables, this still supports SKL QS.

Appreciate for clear and fast responses Btw is there any similar alternative (qs that without displaying model) to an 6130 ?

 

[RolloZ170]

Btw is there any similar alternative (qs that without displaying model) to an 6130 ?

a mystery ? i love something like that. should we guess what YOU want?

 

[spicysnow]

a mystery ? i love something like that. should we guess what YOU want?

Sorry english isn't my native language, what i've meant by that is there any alternative to this QS(one that's supported by all motherboards) but only as a silver or platinum. Also for a such a good price as QNFC xeon gold

 

[RolloZ170]

Sorry english isn't my native language, what i've meant by that is there any alternative to this QS(one that's supported by all motherboards) but only as a silver or platinum. Also for a such a good price as QNFC xeon gold

whats wrong with this Gold ? there are not much silver QS, if there more expensive.
the price will get higher on platinum. maybe the Plat. 8124M.
sorry, but best yould be you sell the T7820 and get a motherboard with ES support.

 

[spicysnow]

whats wrong with this Gold ? there are not much silver QS, if there more expensive.
the price will get higher on platinum. maybe the Plat. 8124M.
sorry, but best yould be you sell the T7820 and get a motherboard with ES support.

Thanks. That gold is fine i was just asking out of curiousity , really thankfull for giving me a help

 

[RolloZ170]

Sorry english isn't my native language, what i've meant by that is there any alternative to this QS(one that's supported by all motherboards) but only as a silver or platinum. Also for a such a good price as QNFC xeon gold

if platinum existed at this price i would have told you. actualy the Platinum 8175M 24 Core os sold for 240 EUR, but that is too expensive for you right ?

 

[dsp8913]

Hello all, been lurking on this site for some time off and on. Came across an Intel QU99 ES1 LGA4189 CPU. Don't have a LGA4189 motherboard at the moment, but was curious if anyone knows a motherboard that supports these ES1 CPUs? From previous comments, it appears that ASRock or Gigabyte might work? Can anyone confirm?

 

[RolloZ170]

Came across an Intel QU99 ES1 LGA4189 CPU. Don't have a LGA4189 motherboard at the moment, but was curious if anyone knows a motherboard that supports these ES1 CPUs? From previous comments, it appears that ASRock or Gigabyte might work? Can anyone confirm?

correct. for supermicro there is only the X12DPi that support ES1 with BIOS 1.x. AFAIK all other X12 supports ES1 with BIOS 1.0, downgrade is not possible over IPMI so you have to replace the BIOS chip.
QU9B

 

[dsp8913]

Thanks for the quick reply Rollo! Looks like I might give ASRock Rack a shot, I've had good success with them on other platforms.

 

[RolloZ170]

Edit: oh I noticed there's two BIOS chips, #0 and #1 (and also BMC FLASH). Do you think it's just a backup, or should I dump both?

i got same boards. this is first rev. with only skylake BIOS. the later rev. C2030(cerberus) supports Cascade Lake, maybe we can use the C2030 BIOS. mine has two different BIOS.
BIOS0:
50650,50651,50652,50654
BIOS1:
50650,50651,50652,50653,50654

 

[systemviper]

Hi @RolloZ170, I'm back w/my (2) X11DPL-i, I want to get one up and running soon.
Still using the first link you gave me...
geoShip
Wondering if anything changed, also saw you did well with yours.
How hard was it to mod and does it give any better cpu options than the Intel Xeon Gold 5218 ES QQ8M or the Intel Xeon Gold 6130 ES QNFC.

Also I'm trying to figure out if there is any noticeable difference going with the Cascaid lake or the SKy at this level or TDP.

The Xeon Gold 6130 release shows it doing 2800 all core, any idea if this is the same with the QNFC version.
THe Xeon Gold 5218 release shows it also doing 2800 but higher on both AVX's, wondering if that is same with the QQ8M version.
\

also what chip is the QLKH

thanks in advance for your time,
Steve

 

[RolloZ170]

The Xeon Gold 6130 release shows it doing 2800 all core, any idea if this is the same with the QNFC version.

at non AVX yes, QNFC is 6130 QS but no display of model.

THe Xeon Gold 5218 release shows it also doing 2800 but higher on both AVX's, wondering if that is same with the QQ8M version.

QQ8M

also what chip is the QLKH

a rare platinum B1 ES. you will not see it anywhere.

better cpu options than the Intel Xeon Gold 5218 ES QQ8M or the Intel Xeon Gold 6130 ES QNFC.

QQ8A, 14 ores but higher base clock.
QQ8Q 18 core.

 

[RolloZ170]

I have just bought a Project Olympus Microsoft board, presumably from Azure. From asking around on reddit it appears that these boards are fine with ES CPUs? Can anyone here confirm?

Mt. Olympus C2012 (15061-1A) connected with a custom cable 2x EPS -> 12V Power in (24Pin proprietäry)
used a GT630 GPU, the BIOS screen does not appear immediately, but surprisingly early. Windows 10 also boots amazingly fast (only 16GB of memory)

the later revision C2030 (17067-1A) supports 2nd Gen. wen need the BIOS from this board.
i check this WE SKL ES support, both B0 and B1 (BIOS#1 includes B1 microcode)
Update:
Platinum 8124x (QLJ1 B0 ES TDP240W TDC255A) is working

BMC heartbeat LED is flashing. but can't connect the IPMI with Browser. Found out there is no IPMI Web Interface.
supermicro IPMIView can connect:

 

[RolloZ170]

I have just bought a Project Olympus Microsoft board, presumably from Azure. From asking around on reddit it appears that these boards are fine with ES CPUs? Can anyone here confirm?

MS C2012 supports 240W CPU and Skylake B0 ES, Skylake B1 ES works too(should support P-8124 / P-8136)
QLJ1QLKH

 

[heromode]

Hi again @RolloZ170 , wondering if you could help me some more.. I'm getting desperate trying to source a Coffee Lake CPU. Even a i7-9700K goes for about 180€ at ebay auctions now, 220+ buy now

There are some QS and ES Xeon e-2xxx's from china, but i have no knowledge of them. Some desriptions say "no show" which i guess means no igpu? Do you know of a good place to source them other than ebay, and what should i get? depending on price, at this stage i'd settle for anything with 6C or more, ie a E-2226G and up.. I gotta start reading this thread backwards..

 

[RolloZ170]

Some desriptions say "no show" which i guess means no igpu?

no show(model) means: you see in BIOS or CPU-Z / Devicemanager "Genuine Intel 0000 @ __" instead of "Intel Core i7-9700k____"