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Myouri Alter

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Hello,

I’m new here at STH.I’m planning to get 2 QMAD (i heard that it’s 8170 QS). I’m not so sure about it. I want to ask if it works with asus C621E sage.

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All right I have a question now, is Xeon Phis 7200 that currently selling at celeron prices (60-80 USD for 72 atom cores with 16 Gb ram already integrated as additional channels if I read it correctly) can be run at regular (ie supermicro) motherboards? Also if motherboard states it support only phis (ie Dell 6320p), will I be able to put regular Xeon Scalable there?
 
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Vit K said:
All right I have a question now, is Xeon Phis 7200 that currently selling at celeron prices (60-80 USD for 72 atom cores with 16 Gb ram already integrated as additional channels if I read it correctly) can be run at regular (ie supermicro) motherboards? Also if motherboard states it support only phis (ie Dell 6320p), will I be able to put regular Xeon Scalable there?
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regular supermicro boards DONT support Xeon PHI.
the PowerEdge C6320p comes with chipset c612, scalable xeons needs chipset(s) c62x.
the partner of the C6320p, the PowerEdge C6420 runs scalable xeons.
 
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domrockt

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Hy Guys and Gals ,
I bought a pair of these
eBay Link
Intel Xeon Prozessor Platinum 8170 es qneu 26 Core 2.1g, Turbo 3.7g CPU Steppin 4

They Work without any problem on my Asus WS C621E SAGE , no BIOS Mod needed.
 
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domrockt said:
Intel Xeon Prozessor Platinum 8170 es qneu 26 Core 2.1g, Turbo 3.7g CPU Steppin 4
They Work without any problem on my Asus WS C621E SAGE , no BIOS Mod needed.
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..because they have skylake prod.unit stepping H0 (cpuid 50654)
Mod is needed for cpuid B0 50652
 
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centaur

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Hey guys,
I have these components:
- brand-new SuperMicro X11SPH-nCTF
- used ES CPU from ebay: Intel Xeon QL1M CPU Processor Gold 6130 ES CPU LGA 3647 16 Core 1.8GHz QL1M.
- brand-new Noctua NH-U14S DX-3647
- brand new 4 x 16GB Kingston KTH-PL424S/16G and also tried with 4 x 16GB SK hynix HMA82GR7JJR8N

When I install 1 memory module I receive message: "no memory DIMM detected, install memory DIMMs"
When I install 4 modules I receive message: "Failing DIMM: DIMM location. (Uncorrectable memory component found)

When I start without memory - 5 short, 1 long - Memory error - No memory detected in system :)

I can't enter BIOS to check if CPU is recognized, I suspect this ES isn't working on this mobo :(

Any advice?
p.s. this is my first ES cpu :|
 
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centaur said:
When I install 1 memory module I receive message: "no memory DIMM detected, install memory DIMMs"
When I install 4 modules I receive message: "Failing DIMM: DIMM location. (Uncorrectable memory component found)
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"Failing DIMM: DIMM location. (Uncorrectable memory component found)"
Is what it means, the Memory is bad or your processor is not properly installed.
in which slots are the memroy modules in ? keep the black ones empty,
try one module in DIMM_A1 (the first blue downside)
You need bios 2.x
Bios 3.x don't support skylake es cpu.
you can downgrade the bios using the ipmi webinterface without cpu(board in standby)
 
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RolloZ170 said:
"Failing DIMM: DIMM location. (Uncorrectable memory component found)"
Is what it means, the Memory is bad or your processor is not properly installed.
in which slots are the memroy modules in ? keep the black ones empty,
try one module in DIMM_A1 (the first blue downside)
You need bios 2.x
Bios 3.x don't support skylake es cpu.
you can downgrade the bios using the ipmi webinterface without cpu(board in standby)
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Thanks for quick reply,
I already tried all memory combinations including only one slot in A1.

In the attach is info from ipmi with 4 x 16GB and CPU installed. As you can see, bios detected 6126 instead of 6130 :)

Any hint where to find old bios for this new mobo?
I already searched supermicro site but withour success :confused:
 

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centaur

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RolloZ170 said:
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Thanks to you guidance in PM, I successfully downgraded bios.
CPU is now OK, but I still have problem with memory.
Although 4 modules are built in, system only see B1 module and reports the same error as earlier: "Failing DIMM: DIMM location. (Uncorrectable memory component found).

Currently, memory modules are Hynix which I switched with friend. Tomorrow I will switch back my Kingston memory modules and I will install OS to see how it works.
 
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centaur said:
Although 4 modules are built in, system only see B1 module and reports the same error as earlier: "Failing DIMM: DIMM location. (Uncorrectable memory component found).
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cpu not presses enough in socket ?
check skrews 3 & 4 of the cooler.
the 2 springs of the socket have to be pulled all the way up.
 
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centaur

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RolloZ170 said:
cpu not presses enough in socket ?
check skrews 3 & 4 of the cooler.
the 2 springs of the socket have to be pulled all the way up.
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That worked! Thank you :)
I followed Noctua user manual where it is written that screws 3&4 shouldn't be tighten too much :confused:

So when I tighten them, all memory is visible :cool:

Guys, thank you very much for the assistance :)
 
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centaur said:
That worked! Thank you :)
I followed Noctua user manual where it is written that screws 3&4 shouldn't be tighten too much :confused:

So when I tighten them, all memory is visible :cool:

Guys, thank you very much for the assistance :)
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Noctua and others are right, maximum torque is 1,38 Nm.
but that happens at the end of the skrewing ;-)
Without any memory inserted you can see the leaf springs. with some experience you have this torque in your fingers.
 
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RolloZ170 said:
update !
You need the modded 3.0 BIOS to run SKL ES2 on X11DPi-NT, BIOS 2.x will not work :(
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Hello,

I'm new here, I followed your king remarks and suggestion from ebay to come here and ask for help. Here is my situation: I own a Supermicro X11DPI-NT0 board Rev 2.0 and one ES Xeon with letters QL1J, according to seller this should be a 14 core 5120 Gold. At CPU-ID the cpu can be fould with ID 50652h. I use 2x8 Gb ECC REG from MICRON (MTA18ASF1G72PZ). The CPU and the RAM is working for sure, I had a single socket X11SPI-TF-0 before and it was all good. Now i have problems at boot, I've got always error B7 which should be related to the memory. Memory is inserted in A1, I tried both rams separately. I cannot get into BIOS, I see the SUPERMICRO logo and the Post process and as I said it stopps at B7. The BIOS version is unknown.
Here my question:
- can you provide me a guide how and which BIOS (you mentioned a modified one) I should install in order to get the system working
- is the IPMI interface the way to install over the IP the modified BIOS? Where should I put the lan cable from the router to make the IP visible? The board has 2xdelta and one separate LAN plug.
- In the attached pic the CPU-Z info can be seen. As you mentioned, the B0 revision is the one with problems?

Thank you for all your help in advance!

XEON_3647_ES.jpg
 
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