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wildpig1234

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Where are you looking for DDR4?

I recall paying about $100 for 64GB of DDR3. DDR4 seems to be about $110 for 16GB of the SM certified stuff.
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so DDR4 ram is 4x the cost of DDR3. so if you are on a budget, 2696 v2 is much cheaper than 1950x and gives nearly same multithread performance.
 
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It depends. If you do have some more money to spend then 1950x might be a better option but I would wait some more for better MB. there is no pro WS MB for TR right now, i.e. lack of good ECC memory support, only support up to 16gb ram modules or 128gb total ram.

The limitation of no more than 128gb with support only up to 16gb ram modules with dodgy ecc support at this point is a real problem for anyone with real professional use with large dataset.

For a cheap budget, if you need the performance right now, I would really consider dual 2696v2 which does give you about the same multithread performance as a stock 1950x since you can put together a system for much cheaper with also much cheaper ram. the only caveat is that 2696 v2 is likely yr last cpu upgrade for that platform.

you can step up to 2011 v3 dual 2686 v3 which give you significantly faster multithread performance than 1950x with better and higher capacity ram and ecc support but your system cost won't be as much of a bargain like 2696 v2 . well, the ram might actually be slightly cheaper since 16gb ddr4 ecc ram looks a little cheaper than 16gb non ecc ram modules.
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E5-2670s <$90 was a huge discount - and I'm get 32~33K on GeekBench multi with two of em.

Asus ROG Zeneith and X399-E motherboards support ECC UnBuffered which is $97 ~ $115 / 16GB 2400 MHz at the moment.
Kingston Technology ValueRAM DDR4 ECC CL17 DIMM 1Rx8 Micron A Server Premier Memory (KVR24E17S8/8MA) at Amazon.com $97

Its not going to beat DDR3 prices, but personally I dont see the value in getting HW 3 generations old unless its at a significant discount and performance + power is not more than 30% difference. If you need more than 128 GB than that is a limiting factor, I'm running 256 GB right now and its great.

Do agree that better mobos will be coming out and making things much nicer. Past V2 E5's Xeon had no real competition so they are not very impressive products. Most companies I know held off on their upgrade cycle because V3 and V4 weren't significantly better for OpEx.
 
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E5-2670s <$90 was a huge discount - and I'm get 32~33K on GeekBench multi with two of em.

Asus ROG Zeneith and X399-E motherboards support ECC UnBuffered which is $97 ~ $115 / 16GB 2400 MHz at the moment.
Kingston Technology ValueRAM DDR4 ECC CL17 DIMM 1Rx8 Micron A Server Premier Memory (KVR24E17S8/8MA) at Amazon.com $97

Its not going to beat DDR3 prices, but personally I dont see the value in getting HW 3 generations old unless its at a significant discount and performance + power is not more than 30% difference. If you need more than 128 GB than that is a limiting factor, I'm running 256 GB right now and its great.

Do agree that better mobos will be coming out and making things much nicer. Past V2 E5's Xeon had no real competition so they are not very impressive products. Most companies I know held off on their upgrade cycle because V3 and V4 weren't significantly better for OpEx.
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dual 2696 v2 is significantly discounted to 1950x ($600 vs $1000) and give comparable multithread performance. also ddr3 ram is much cheaper than ddr4. you can get 128gb ddr3 for price of 32gb ddr4. and you can also go well above 128gb if needed. so dual 2696 v2 is still a viabe alternate to 1950x
 
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so DDR4 ram is 4x the cost of DDR3. so if you are on a budget, 2696 v2 is much cheaper than 1950x and gives nearly same multithread performance.
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More so getting some runway out of what I'm buying rather than throwing cash away.

If I were to buy DDR4 I'd feel a lot better grabbing registered DDR4 2666 as I know that is going to last me for quite some time.

I think I'm going to hold out and see some benches from W Xeon and if any sort of TR Pro shows up. No rush in grabbing these V2s or V3s as their prices can only go down.
 
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I'll be putting the 2696v2 I bought into a GA-7PESH2 replacing a 2650v2. The board runs everything off the first CPU, and I don't plan on going dual with this one. Picking up a TR from MC was something I was looking at, but I have mobo and ram, so it was hard to justify going with new.
 
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cactus said:
I'll be putting the 2696v2 I bought into a GA-7PESH2 replacing a 2650v2. The board runs everything off the first CPU, and I don't plan on going dual with this one. Picking up a TR from MC was something I was looking at, but I have mobo and ram, so it was hard to justify going with new.
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why not dual? you can equal 1950x with dual 2696 v2
 
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So i 've also confirmed that dual 2696 v2 gives you about roughly the same performance as one 1950x with much cheaper and more consistent support of ECC ram and much more memory capacity. the only problem i have is finding a MB thats also stable in win10. I've tried two supermicro MB (X9DAX and X9DRE) and even after turning suspend off completely under acpi setting in the bios, you still get the occassional random lock up. I already know Asrock MB is even worse with win10 from my days with the 2670 and seeing other people experience on here. Intel S2600cp doesn't support 2696 v2 as it is an OEM cpu and not official cpu (sucks because we are not even talking about a QS/ES cpu here). There is only one option left for me to try at this point: asus z9pe-16...
 
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So i 've also confirmed that dual 2696 v2 gives you about roughly the same performance as one 1950x with much cheaper and more consistent support of ECC ram and much more memory capacity. the only problem i have is finding a MB thats also stable in win10. I've tried two supermicro MB (X9DAX and X9DRE) and even after turning suspend off completely under acpi setting in the bios, you still get the occassional random lock up. I already know Asrock MB is even worse with win10 from my days with the 2670 and seeing other people experience on here. Intel S2600cp doesn't support 2696 v2 as it is an OEM cpu and not official cpu (sucks because we are not even talking about a QS/ES cpu here). There is only one option left for me to try at this point: asus z9pe-16...
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First it’s not as fast for single threaded loads :)

As for motherboard stability. Something has to either be wrong with your RAM or the fact that the SM board doesn’t properly support the 2696 since it’s an OEM chip. I have an X9 DAE running Windows 10 and it’s never crashed. I have no issues with Suspend.
 
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