DEAD: HGST SSD1600MM - HUSMM1640ASS201 - 400GB US $47.95 OBO

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frogtech

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Tbh this is a pretty bad deal even at 35. I've gotten these for under 30 a piece on /r/homelabsales. Luckily the seller declined.
How is it a bad deal? For SAS3, it's not bad. The only thing that's offputting is the SUN branding. It will likely not be easy or even possible to update FW on them. Not that it's a big deal but it's always a little irksome putting branded drives into different systems and getting annoying messages about unsupported configs or what have you.
 
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How is it a bad deal? For SAS3, it's not bad. The only thing that's offputting is the SUN branding. It will likely not be easy or even possible to update FW on them. Not that it's a big deal but it's always a little irksome putting branded drives into different systems and getting annoying messages about unsupported configs or what have you.
I mean I've gotten these for under 30 a piece on /r/homelabsales. SMM1640s too and self encrypting 201s even. Just gotta be patient.
 
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josh

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That doesn't make this deal a "pretty bad" one. It just means that you got an even better deal. A bad deal would be 100$+ per disk. But definitely not ~$40 per disk.
My impression is if I can constantly find the same item at lower prices anything higher is a bad deal for me. Unless you desperately need these drives there's absolutely no benefit in pouncing on this sale. Besides, on this forum, most people buy out of impulse. But I'd concede different people have different opinions of value.
 

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I mean I've gotten these for under 30 a piece on /r/homelabsales. SMM1640s too and self encrypting 201s even. Just gotta be patient.
My impression is if I can constantly find the same item at lower prices anything higher is a bad deal for me. Unless you desperately need these drives there's absolutely no benefit in pouncing on this sale. Besides, on this forum, most people buy out of impulse. But I'd concede different people have different opinions of value.
Being patient to find a deal is one thing.
Constantly finding them is another.
Being able to buy in quantity at a "deal" price is a whole other issue, not everyone wants 1, or 3 drives and will wait a month or more to buy more.

At this point I'm unsure if you're buying these 1 or 2 every couple months or if you're buying them weekly by the dozen. Either-or it's a deal to most it appears ;)

Don't get me wrong I've waited months to acquire enough of the same drive at a GREAT DEAL price so I get what you're saying, and I still think these are\were a deal at this price. Is the forum name "great deal" what's holding you up? $40 for SAS3 400GB to me is a great deal :/ though
 
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Being patient to find a deal is one thing.
Constantly finding them is another.
Being able to buy in quantity at a "deal" price is a whole other issue, not everyone wants 1, or 3 drives and will wait a month or more to buy more.

At this point I'm unsure if you're buying these 1 or 2 every couple months or if you're buying them weekly by the dozen. Either-or it's a deal to most it appears ;)

Don't get me wrong I've waited months to acquire enough of the same drive at a GREAT DEAL price so I get what you're saying, and I still think these are\were a deal at this price. Is the forum name "great deal" what's holding you up? $40 for SAS3 400GB to me is a great deal :/ though
Well here's a recent example.

[FS][USA-NH] 400GB SSD SAS Drives, 1.2TB SAS drives, 900GB SAS, 300GB 15K RPM! : homelabsales

The 1640 201s are clearly visible in the pictures. I bought 10 from the guy for 30.50 each shipped. Didn't believe they were going this cheap so only got 10 at first. He mentioned he had 100s of them so I could probably come back again after verifying they were valid.

I understand we're just arguing about semantics now so it's probably best to drop it. But just saying that these sales happen pretty much as often as these eBay deals are posted.
 

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So, has anyone managed to get those SUN-branded HUSMM1640s to work? I've got 4 and not a single one is recognized in my usual Supermicro X9 board with 2308 IT-flashed controller. I don't buy disks often so I might be missing something here. As far as I remember, even disks formatted to 520/528B would still be recognized by the controller - they just wouldn't show up in most operating systems (until they're formatted to 512B). But mine are not even detected by the controller, and sg_scan -i in CentOS doesn't show any of them either. :( It's quite unlikely that I'd get 4 out 4 DOA, so it's probably some incompatibility issue?
 

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So, has anyone managed to get those SUN-branded HUSMM1640s to work? I've got 4 and not a single one is recognized in my usual Supermicro X9 board with 2308 IT-flashed controller. I don't buy disks often so I might be missing something here. As far as I remember, even disks formatted to 520/528B would still be recognized by the controller - they just wouldn't show up in most operating systems (until they're formatted to 512B). But mine are not even detected by the controller, and sg_scan -i in CentOS doesn't show any of them either. :( It's quite unlikely that I'd get 4 out 4 DOA, so it's probably some incompatibility issue?
Have you tried the drives behind a SAS expander?
 
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So, has anyone managed to get those SUN-branded HUSMM1640s to work? I've got 4 and not a single one is recognized in my usual Supermicro X9 board with 2308 IT-flashed controller. I don't buy disks often so I might be missing something here. As far as I remember, even disks formatted to 520/528B would still be recognized by the controller - they just wouldn't show up in most operating systems (until they're formatted to 512B). But mine are not even detected by the controller, and sg_scan -i in CentOS doesn't show any of them either. :( It's quite unlikely that I'd get 4 out 4 DOA, so it's probably some incompatibility issue?
Bought five (5) units and tested them on an LSI 9211-8i. Drives recognized during POST and showed up in the OS without needing to do anything special.
 
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Have you tried the drives behind a SAS expander?
No, I'm just connecting them directly to the controllers. Tried both 2308 and 3008 already, with different cables.
Bought five (5) units and tested them on an LSI 9211-8i. Drives recognized during POST and showed up in the OS without needing to do anything special.
Thanks. I wonder what's wrong with mine then. Were all packed fine and no physical damage, all shipped in anti-static bags. Hard to believe they're all just dead, must be something on my end.

By the way, does anyone know what's the small window on the front of each disk, with 2 pins inside? What are those for?
 

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In my case, connecting the drives to a 9300-4 or 8i didn't work.
Putting them behind an expander solved my problem.
 
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In my case, connecting the drives to a 9300-4 or 8i didn't work.
Putting them behind an expander solved my problem.
Hmm, thanks. I was planning to use those without expanders though, I don't even have any, never had the need for those in my builds. I wonder why these disks behave like this? I'm pretty sure I've had a few Oracle-branded HUSMM1680s last year, and didn't have any problems with connecting them directly to LSI 2308- and 3008-based controllers. What kind of expander are you using exactly? I've tried searching for these on ebay, but only finding stuff from China, and almost nothing US-based. What are the most popular models out there to try?
 

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Does anybody change / fix the drive-speed of a husmm1640ass201 form SAS2 (6 gbit/s) to SAS3 (12 gbit/s) with niagara ?
I got problem with saving the needed values to the disk.


Is there alternative to niagara ?
 
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Does anybody change / fix the drive-speed of a husmm1640ass201 form SAS2 (6 gbit/s) to SAS3 (12 gbit/s) with niagara ?
I got problem with saving the needed values to the disk.


Is there alternative to niagara ?
I pick SPTI on launch
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After setting the 10's to 11's, press mode select to save. You will see if it worked in the command window.
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That is how it works for me anyways, and I have done like 30 so far with no problems.

-JCL
 

h0schi

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Thanks for your reply and the details.

I tried it but i receive following error-message:

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Seems like that the firmware restrict this action (IBM branded), hm ?
Does anybody have a firmware for a HGST Ultrastar SSD1600MM (400GB / HUSMM1640ASS201) or a method to change the sas2- to sas3-speed ?
 
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