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awedio said:
@jcl333 So you don't need the bin file or downloading code to the driver to change speeds?
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Nope, you just need to be using an HBA or a RAID controller in JBOD/HBA/IT mode so that you have access to the drives. You will know you are there when Niagara enumerates the devices.

Also keep in mind, you need to make sure you have the right cabling to support 12Gig on the drive, including connecting them to power correctly if you are using breakout cabling. After you make the change, reboot and make sure they report 12Gig (I use the Broadcom/LSI management software to see this). I would also test a couple drives after changing them, run a speed benchmark, it should be easy to see that you are exceeding the speeds possible with 6Gig.

All that being said, this is my experience with my drives, which came out of an EMC SAN from work that they were decommissioning. I can't speak for other drives that might have different firmware or something. I am not an expert, it took me awhile to figure this out.

-JCL
 
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Nope, you just need to be using an HBA or a RAID controller in JBOD/HBA/IT mode so that you have access to the drives. You will know you are there when Niagara enumerates the devices.

Also keep in mind, you need to make sure you have the right cabling to support 12Gig on the drive, including connecting them to power correctly if you are using breakout cabling. After you make the change, reboot and make sure they report 12Gig (I use the Broadcom/LSI management software to see this). I would also test a couple drives after changing them, run a speed benchmark, it should be easy to see that you are exceeding the speeds possible with 6Gig.

All that being said, this is my experience with my drives, which came out of an EMC SAN from work that they were decommissioning. I can't speak for other drives that might have different firmware or something. I am not an expert, it took me awhile to figure this out.

-JCL
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All good man, thx, it worked per your instructions!!
 
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h0schi said:
Thanks for your reply and the details.

I tried it but i receive following error-message:

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Seems like that the firmware restrict this action (IBM branded), hm ?
Does anybody have a firmware for a HGST Ultrastar SSD1600MM (400GB / HUSMM1640ASS201) or a method to change the sas2- to sas3-speed ?
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Hmm, yeah, if I had to guess, I would say you might have firmware restricting the speeds that are possible, or maybe your drive just doesn't support 12Gig from a hardware perspective.

If you are feeling brave, you can check "Allow "Read-Only" Fields To Be Edited" and try and change the Hardware Maximum Physical Link Rate, I believe this is the main one that needs to change for this to work.

But please, this is a dangerous tool that you should be really careful with, I am sure there are 50 ways you can brick your drives with it. If you fool around like that, do it on a drive you are prepared to brick. I did this, and so far where I have experimented it just didn't work, and I did not brick any drives. What would be worse would be changing the drive in a subtle way that still works, but causes data corruption that you don't notice until later, or greatly shortens it's lifespan, etc.

Aside from that, if you are getting these drives really cheap and they only work at 6Gig, the low-latency and high transaction rate of SSD's is almost more important than the raw transfer rate, they will still work really good.

-JCL
 
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awedio said:
@jcl333 What o/s is your Niagara installed on?
Are you on Niagara v4.3?
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Yes, it is 4.3 and I am running it on Server 2019 Datacenter Edition
It did take awhile to locate a fully working copy of Niagara that didn't complain about licenses, and some older versions would not recognize these drives. I consider the fact that this worked for me to be as much attributed to luck as it is to me figuring it out. It took me months to finally get it all to work, including getting the right HBAs, cables, having the HBAs on the right firmware, etc.

There are a bunch of things you need to get right for this to work. Be patient, it is not easy, don't feel bad if you don't get it right away.

And, to be fair, even with 8x of these drives in RAID10, the only difference I see is in benchmarks, I don't have real-world applications where I notice any difference. I think it will be some corner cases where you will notice. I did it just to see if I could.
 
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Yes, it is 4.3 and I am running it on Server 2019 Datacenter Edition
It did take awhile to locate a fully working copy of Niagara that didn't complain about licenses, and some older versions would not recognize these drives. I consider the fact that this worked for me to be as much attributed to luck as it is to me figuring it out. It took me months to finally get it all to work, including getting the right HBAs, cables, having the HBAs on the right firmware, etc.

There are a bunch of things you need to get right for this to work. Be patient, it is not easy, don't feel bad if you don't get it right away.

And, to be fair, even with 8x of these drives in RAID10, the only difference I see is in benchmarks, I don't have real-world applications where I notice any difference. I think it will be some corner cases where you will notice. I did it just to see if I could.
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Cool.
I'm running v4.3 on Win10.
Just finished 4 drives, got 38 more to "upgrade"
 

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h0schi said:
Thx @jcl333 - i tried it, but i got the same error-message.
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Hmm, I will help you if I can. Hard for me to know what you might be doing wrong, or if it will even work with the particular drives you are using.

I know it was a big "WooHoo!" moment when I finally got this to work. I didn't even believe it, plugged it into another controller to confirm.

One thing that helped is for the version of Niagara I downloaded, someone created a bunch of PDF's in the download that showed how to do it, I probably would not have figured it out without that. So thanks to whomever make those ;-)
 
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h0schi said:
Thanks for your reply and the details.

I tried it but i receive following error-message:

View attachment 16177

Seems like that the firmware restrict this action (IBM branded), hm ?
Does anybody have a firmware for a HGST Ultrastar SSD1600MM (400GB / HUSMM1640ASS201) or a method to change the sas2- to sas3-speed ?
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PHY1 & 2, each need to have "11" in 2 places (total of 4) ?
You only have "11" in 2 places.
 

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HGST Ultrastar SSD1600MM / HUSMM1640ASS201 (400GB) (IBM 0B32136 - 4k (4096))
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