Cheap chinese x79 mobos

Stephan

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Was about to pull the trigger on an Huananzhi X79-16D with two 10-core Xeons. Then the JCC erratum happened and I changed my mind. Getting a Ryzen X3950 as soon as boards with a passively-cooled X570 are available that are not E-ATX.
 

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Has anyone gotten the ALL CORE TURBO trick to work with the Xeon E5-2678v3? I'd of course need a BIOS for the SZMZ X99-8D3 (I did get from Diego so I will request a BIOS from him) also interested in a custom flash logo and haven't played with that in years.
* Okay it works. Just used the tf_tb.rom and V3.efi
 
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wildpig1234

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How're you testing this for 'proper s3' functionality?
1. There should be a setting in bios for S3 sleep
2. Sleep would show up as a choice along with start and shutdown in windows once you install the proper driver for yr graphic card
3. When you choose sleep the computer should enter sleep (s3 means no fan should be running with monitor output off). The computer should come out of sleep and work properly. you should be able to do 10 consecutive manual entry into sleep and awake from sleep without the computer lock up or crash or show a black screen, etc.
 

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For the Runing X79z B10 MB, I found a mention on a russian site that the MSATA need to have all four of the jumpers near it set to 1-2 instead of 2-3 for the MSATA to work. I wonder if those jumper will take away another sata port... guess will have to test that out.
 

Jannis Jacobsen

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How "secure" are these chinese motherboards?
Are you sure they dont have anything "extra" in the firmware that can log keyboard inputs etc?

I'm a bit sceptical to random hardware from china were I will input passwords, credit card numbers etc.

-jannis
 
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wildpig1234

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there was an article by STH dealing with supermicro boards allegedly having backdoors. Any board can have backdoor. There are no board that are not made in asia. But it's highly unlikely that your credit card info is stolen by backdoor in boards. It s a lot more likely from phishing and malware.
 
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wildpig1234

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that batch file thinggy didn't work for the runing board ;( i guess s3 sleep will only work with the newest chinese boards ;(
 

Tha_14

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If a board has a data capturing chip on it, it wouldn't be to collect credit card info. It would be to simply spy on foreign and domestic governments.
 
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kagurazakakotori

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Some of these motherboards actually use H61/Q65/B75 chipsets (Yes Chinese craftsmen have made it possible to use these chipsets with lga2011 CPUs). Stay away from these boards as they have some compatibility issues like not supporting ECC LRDIMMs and/or 12-core CPUs and stability issues.
 
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Vit K

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Some of these motherboards actually use H61/Q65/B75 chipsets (Yes Chinese craftsmen have made it possible to use these chipsets with lga2011 CPUs).
Some of them even B85 (haswell) chipset now. Luckily memory support and core support does not relate to north bridge anyhow. Sometimes boards are just faulty, and QA of them is bit lower than from Asus for example.
 

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Some of them even B85 (haswell) chipset now. Luckily memory support and core support does not relate to north bridge anyhow. Sometimes boards are just faulty, and QA of them is bit lower than from Asus for example.
Would be cool if they can make a board supporting v1, v2, and v3 cpu....lol
 

Vit K

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Would be cool if they can make a board supporting v1, v2, and v3 cpu....lol
Chinese build boards with h310 that support all 7-9 gens of CPU, what is absolutely impossible according to intel pr department. And Coffemod showed that limiting factor is BIOS support and Intel ME that effectivly blocking any "unsupported" processors (like Xeons or next gen same die CPUs). I would not surprised if motherboard that support all 3 gen of 2011 is actually possible to build and select generation just by swapping BIOS on it.
 

wildpig1234

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Chinese build boards with h310 that support all 7-9 gens of CPU, what is absolutely impossible according to intel pr department. And Coffemod showed that limiting factor is BIOS support and Intel ME that effectivly blocking any "unsupported" processors (like Xeons or next gen same die CPUs). I would not surprised if motherboard that support all 3 gen of 2011 is actually possible to build and select generation just by swapping BIOS on it.
lol. I will also need to check again but i think even the socket might be a little different between v3 and v2/v1 ? maybe not?
 

kagurazakakotori

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Some of them even B85 (haswell) chipset now. Luckily memory support and core support does not relate to north bridge anyhow. Sometimes boards are just faulty, and QA of them is bit lower than from Asus for example.
B85 chipset is mainly used on 2011-3 boards, some sellers might call it X99. And yes, most of the failure was caused by quality issues. Also, in Chinese forums, these boards are believed to use "recycled" chipset desoldered from old boards, this might be the cause.
 

kagurazakakotori

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Chinese build boards with h310 that support all 7-9 gens of CPU, what is absolutely impossible according to intel pr department. And Coffemod showed that limiting factor is BIOS support and Intel ME that effectivly blocking any "unsupported" processors (like Xeons or next gen same die CPUs). I would not surprised if motherboard that support all 3 gen of 2011 is actually possible to build and select generation just by swapping BIOS on it.
It seems impossible because LGA 2011-3 actually got more pins than LGA 2011 while 7-9 gen desktop cores all use LGA 1151 rev2. I think the v1/v2 and v3/v4 E5 cpus are physically incompatible. The only possible thing is to use DDR3 memory with v3 cpus, and there are such products on market like HUANANZHI(华南金牌) X99-TF which provides both DDR3 and DDR4 memory slots for v3 cpus.