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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

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joku

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Not familiar with that particular cable but one review (from Japan) states it only worked after installing the driver. If on Windows 11 there seems to be some confusion as to which (PL2303) driver to install.

The pin layout otherwise seems to be the same as an ebay cable I'm successfully using (with minicom).
Thanks for the hint. The driver was already installed (Windows 10). Unfortunately, with the same outcome.
I gave up and ordered another cable with the FTDI chip. I'll post an update once tested.
 
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jei

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Got 7450-24P delivered today from the UK. After shipping and taxes about 400€ total. Not great, not terrible. I want to try 40Gb and 6610 is EOL/even more noisier so.. Seller mentioned only 1x 1X40GQ module, but it came fully stocked, 2x 1X40GQ, 1x 4X10GF and 2x PSUs. Only rack ears are missing, if someone has extras I'm a taker. The noise is not too bad, possibly could work in my closet without any modding. Somehow I recall my old 6450-24P was worse.

edit: Taking ~60W (230V) from the wall idle after boot is complete (1 PSU).

For the console I decided to use existing Cisco FTDI USB-C to RJ45 cable. Materials needed: RJ45 keystone adapter and old miniusb cord.

RJ45USB
3 (tx)3 (tx) (green)
6 (rx)2 (rx) (white)
4-5 (gnd)5 (gnd) (black)

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diode

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Got 7450-24P delivered today from the UK. After shipping and taxes about 400€ total. Not great, not terrible. I want to try 40Gb and 6610 is EOL/even more noisier so.. Seller mentioned only 1x 1X40GQ module, but it came fully stocked, 2x 1X40GQ, 1x 4X10GF and 2x PSUs. Only rack ears are missing, if someone has extras I'm a taker. The noise is not too bad, possibly could work in my closet without any modding. Somehow I recall my old 6450-24P was worse.

edit: Taking ~60W (230V) from the wall idle after boot is complete.

For the console I decided to use existing Cisco FTDI USB-C to RJ45 cable. Materials needed: RJ45 keystone adapter and old miniusb cord.

RJ45USB
3 (tx)3 (tx) (green)
6 (rx)2 (rx) (white)
4-5 (gnd)5 (gnd) (black)

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I just made one like this with the Cisco FTDI and it worked like a charm!
 
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hoitzed

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I recently just picked up a new to me ICX6610 and am planning on using it as a core switch.
Fortigate/fortiswitch > (1gb) ICX > (10gb) other switches
I've followed the guide posted and have the switch updated and reset. However I can't seem to get the routing / pathing correct (not using ACL or L3) for the downstream switches. I'm assuming because the downstream connection is faster, it's being preferred. VLANS are enabled on the required ports. Traceroute in the UI seems to contact my gateway correctly, and can reach the internet.

Apologize in advance for poor network terminology.
 

joku

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Thanks for the hint. The driver was already installed (Windows 10). Unfortunately, with the same outcome.
I gave up and ordered another cable with the FTDI chip. I'll post an update once tested.
Update as promised.
Today I received the new cable:

… And it's starting to get frustrating. I still see only garbage on the console (well, it appears in a different pace now than with the other cable). Is it possible that the default connection parameters do not apply on this switch (for whatever reason)? Is it still the cable? I'm lost at this point.
 

Ralph_IT

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Update as promised.
Today I received the new cable:

… And it's starting to get frustrating. I still see only garbage on the console (well, it appears in a different pace now than with the other cable). Is it possible that the default connection parameters do not apply on this switch (for whatever reason)? Is it still the cable? I'm lost at this point.
Just buy an USB to RS232 cable and a Cisco RS232 to RJ45 cable.
That's what I used on my ICX6450 and worked flawlessly.
Something like this
 

joku

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Just buy an USB to RS232 cable and a Cisco RS232 to RJ45 cable.
That's what I used on my ICX6450 and worked flawlessly.
Something like this
Well, now I tried my luck with one of my old computers having a physical RS-232 interface on its motherboard and guess what, it prints garbage to the console (I've triple checked the connection settings).
 

ManoftheSea

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Hey network people.
I've been having some adventures with an ICX6450 and a Ubiquiti AP and a Roku. An old roku stick, if it matters. I had it set up that the ICX6450 has DHCP pools, the AP is connected on a dual-mode port, with untagged traffic for the AP itself and tagged VLANs for the wifi. Alas, I think it was stated a bit ago, and I discovered as well, that the Roku is unwilling to get an address from the ICX6450.

So I set up a DHCP server (Kea) on a host, and I configured dhcp snooping ("ip dhcp snooping vlan N"), while also enabling dhcp trust ("interface eth 1/2/4", "dhcp snooping trust"). And when I set up the helper address ("ip helper-address 1 addr.of.host"), I see WIRED devices able to get IPs from Kea. But... I don't see wireless clients getting addresses (and therefore not finishing the association process). tcpdump from the Kea server shows the DISCOVER and OFFER; tcpdump from a wireless client even showed the REQUEST being sent, but it doesn't arrive.

Does anyone have a suggestion? Maybe something at the ubiquiti AP configuration is causing DHCP to the VLAN's VE to work, but not to get relayed? I'm sure this is a scenario that plenty of people have working, what am I missing?
 

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Well, now I tried my luck with one of my old computers having a physical RS-232 interface on its motherboard and guess what, it prints garbage to the console (I've triple checked the connection settings).
Only thing I can offer is that you ship it to me (I'm also located in Germany) and that I have a look to find out what's wrong
 

hoitzed

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Does anyone use cisco AP's on these switches? I just migrated over to this switch, and have my vlans setup, all my other wired devices are working.

The 4 APs are using mobility express, and were working prior to migration. Previous configuration was PVID 4, Tagged 100, 200, 300
Current Brocade setup is dual-mode 1/1/3 to 1/1/6, vlan 100, 200, 300 tagged.

Am I missing something else that allows them to self-discover? Thanks
 

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I had a lot of strange IPv6 problems with the 08.x branch which were fixed by the 09.x branch; it's definitely worth a try.
Well I upgraded to 09.x branch and I'm still seeing the same issues :(:(:(:(:(:(

I guess i'll just switch to moving the L3 terminations off the switch as it's super annoying to go up and down stairs losing my IPv6 connection (which is favored)
 

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Well, now I tried my luck with one of my old computers having a physical RS-232 interface on its motherboard and guess what, it prints garbage to the console (I've triple checked the connection settings).
Feels like it's the switch and not the cable or host. Can you perform a factory reset?
 
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Well, now I tried my luck with one of my old computers having a physical RS-232 interface on its motherboard and guess what, it prints garbage to the console (I've triple checked the connection settings).
try these baud rates instead, one at a time: 14400, 19200, 38400, 57600, 115200

on the uboot/linux based models like the 6450, it's possible to change the serial baud rate in the u-boot environment variables, I suppose it's possible someone did this previously. I have only ran into it once though, previous user forced it to 115200
 
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Testsubg

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Load address: 0x3000000
Download to address: 0x3000000
Loading: %T %T %T %T %T %
Retry count exceeded, Try again
ICX64XX-boot>>
[/CODE]
I’ve connected to the TFTP server fine and update_primary without issue, but the uboot update always fails. Was this ever resolved/or how did anyone else fix it?
On mine it says:
Download Filename 'ICX64xx/kxz10105.bin'
Load address: 0x3000000
Download to address: 0x3000000
Loading: %T %T %T %T %T %
Retry count exceeded, Try again
ICX64XX-boot>>
Also says,
update_uboot
egiga0 no link
Using egiga0 device
Seems like there’s something hopefully simple that I’ve missed. I appreciate any help with this!
 

egyptianthemagician

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Looking for some help. I've been using the brocade6450 as a basic network switch for the past year. Didn't touch any settings at all. Recently upgraded to 3gb internet so wanted to use the 10G SFP slots. I bought two of these from Amazon - https://a.co/d/aFhYnIa

Have this connected to my unraid server which shows a 10000 Mbps eth0 link (previous was 1000 Mbps) so I thought everything was groovy. When I did a speed test though my download and upload fluxuate greatly.


1000023421.jpg

This is using a docker tool called speed test tracker does speed tests every 30 mins

My download goes up and down hitting close to max of 2500 (since the router is a 2.5 GB router) but my upload seems to cap below 300.

Wondering if anyone had experience with these trancievers or any thought on what's going on.
 

Catlike

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Looking for some help. I've been using the brocade6450 as a basic network switch for the past year. Didn't touch any settings at all. Recently upgraded to 3gb internet so wanted to use the 10G SFP slots. I bought two of these from Amazon - https://a.co/d/aFhYnIa

Have this connected to my unraid server which shows a 10000 Mbps eth0 link (previous was 1000 Mbps) so I thought everything was groovy. When I did a speed test though my download and upload fluxuate greatly.


View attachment 33101

This is using a docker tool called speed test tracker does speed tests every 30 mins

My download goes up and down hitting close to max of 2500 (since the router is a 2.5 GB router) but my upload seems to cap below 300.

Wondering if anyone had experience with these trancievers or any thought on what's going on.
Are you able to run a Speedtest directly on your router to set a baseline before moving onto clients?

that is where I would start.