When you say idle, is that with no devices connected? Every attached copper port will use power even if the devices are idle, and all active transceivers will require power. These switches don’t have energy efficient Ethernet so they provide enough power for the full 100M reach over copper even if you have short runs.
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No cables attached, not even console. The other guy says that he gets 26W with 14 active RJ45 and 2 active SFP+ connections (but nearly no traffic)
Switchboard says Rev:03 GP (printed on the PCB)
Anyone else with a 6450 want to check their rev?
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There may be a difference in power consumption between the non-PoE and PoE models simply because power supplies tend to be very inefficient under 10% utilization. The 6450-24 has a 65W rating. The 6450-48 has a 100W rating. The 6450-24p is rare at 525W. The 6450-48p is rated at 880W. I would assume the PoE models would idle at a higher power consumption due to PSU inefficiency.
The spec sheets also seem to indicate there may be a difference running at 120V or 240V.
I have an ICX6450-48p currently not in use. I can plug it in to Kill-A-Watt to check the consumption on 120V. My ICX6610-48p is connected to my 240V UPS.
Hmm... fohdeesha says
I'm using 240V 50Hz (good European grid, MOAR POWA)
The ICX6450 from the other guy is also PoE
I'm using 240V 50Hz (good European grid, MOAR POWA)
You can't afaik. 2 of the ports you can get breakout cables for DAC or fiber, the other 2 are 40G only. The front ports you could add 10GBase-T if you really wanted to, but it's the worst 10G interface for cost and power use.
The first page of this thread that has the 6610's features, it says the following -
This gave me the impression that the switch supports 16x 10GbE connections, 8 of which will come out of the 2 QSFP+ breakout ports. What am I missing?
The two QSFP+ ports require a breakout cable to get 4 male SFP+ connectors per port. AFAIK breakout cables to RJ45 connectors do not exist.
Actually there is a rather mysterious cable from Dell that *claims* to do what you want:
But for the price of 1312.99 Euro I don't think anyone here has bought it to see if it works.
Edit: just noticed that's not even 10GbE - it maxes at 1Gb
And presumably the SFP+ breakouts would not support copper SFP+ modules, since they require so much power and cooling.
Ahh, I see now, the breakout cables are *male* SFP+ ends to go into other devices, they aren't sockets. Never mind.
If you *really* want to go that road: There are 10G copper-to-fibre media converters, like Unmanaged 10Gigabit Ethernet Medienkonverter, 1x 100M/1G/2.5G/5G/10GBase-T auf 1x 10GBase-X SFP+ Steckplatz , Eurostecker - FS Deutschland
But they are expensive (169€ + tax right now)
But they are expensive (169€ + tax right now)
Hello all! I am trying to fully reset a 6610 to factory defaults and clear out any references to a stack member, but even after doing so, I still get this:
ICX6610-48P Router#sh run
Current configuration:
!
ver 08.0.30uT7f3
!
stack unit 1
module 1 icx6610-48p-poe-port-management-module
module 2 icx6610-qsfp-10-port-160g-module
module 3 icx6610-8-port-10g-dual-mode-module
stack unit 2
module 1 icx6610-48p-poe-port-management-module
module 2 icx6610-qsfp-10-port-160g-module
module 3 icx6610-8-port-10g-dual-mode-module
stack disable
So then I try this and this is what I get:
ICX6610-48P Router#stack unconfigure clean
This command is not available on standalone or Active Controller
What should I do from here? I would have thought a factory reset command would have done it, but it did not. I am on the latest bootloader and software from the guide (at least I think I am, I followed the instructions to update in the guide).
Thanks!
ICX6610-48P Router#sh run
Current configuration:
!
ver 08.0.30uT7f3
!
stack unit 1
module 1 icx6610-48p-poe-port-management-module
module 2 icx6610-qsfp-10-port-160g-module
module 3 icx6610-8-port-10g-dual-mode-module
stack unit 2
module 1 icx6610-48p-poe-port-management-module
module 2 icx6610-qsfp-10-port-160g-module
module 3 icx6610-8-port-10g-dual-mode-module
stack disable
So then I try this and this is what I get:
ICX6610-48P Router#stack unconfigure clean
This command is not available on standalone or Active Controller
What should I do from here? I would have thought a factory reset command would have done it, but it did not. I am on the latest bootloader and software from the guide (at least I think I am, I followed the instructions to update in the guide).
Thanks!
You have old stacking configs still lingering on your switch. You have to delete them and reload.
I don't remember if you can do it from bootloader level too, but the below OS console method works for sure:
Code:
over serial (will not work over telnet/ssh)
#at any OS level:
#press ctrl+y, let go, then press m, then hit enter
#at the new console, show files with:
dir
#delete all the config files
del stacking.boot
del startup-config
del startup-config.backup
del startup-config.old
#reboot
resetThat seems pretty hot. Maybe there is not enough room around the switch for proper cooling with all the POE stuff going on?
In any case you could look at that thread:
If you don't care about the noise 6610 is making, just take a look towards the end of said thread. Plexiglass top with external fans will do the trick.
What's best practice for "daisy-chaining" switches if I can't stack them, in terms of ACLs and VLANs?
I have a main ICX 6610 switch with all my VLANs and ACLs set up. There is a 10Gbe link to a ICX6450 in my office 3 floors up.
I have VLAN10, 20, 40 and 90 which I send through the 10Gbe link all as tagged. This seems to work ok.
So far ACLs seem to work when defined only on the ICX6610, but obviously if there is routing internal to the ICX6450 the ACLs will not apply I assume.
Questions for those who daisy chain switches (without stacking):
- Do you replicate all your ACLs on the second switch?
- how do you send your VLANs over to the second switch? just tag them all on the interface link between the two switches?
- Do you make additional router-interfaces (ve) for each VLAN on the subsidiary switch? I have been doing so.
For instance, VLAN 10 is 192.168.10.0/24. I have ve 10 on ICX6610 with ip addr 192.168.10.2/24 and ve 10 on ICX6450 with ip 192.168.10.3/24.
Not sure what is "best practice" here.
I have a main ICX 6610 switch with all my VLANs and ACLs set up. There is a 10Gbe link to a ICX6450 in my office 3 floors up.
I have VLAN10, 20, 40 and 90 which I send through the 10Gbe link all as tagged. This seems to work ok.
So far ACLs seem to work when defined only on the ICX6610, but obviously if there is routing internal to the ICX6450 the ACLs will not apply I assume.
Questions for those who daisy chain switches (without stacking):
- Do you replicate all your ACLs on the second switch?
- how do you send your VLANs over to the second switch? just tag them all on the interface link between the two switches?
- Do you make additional router-interfaces (ve) for each VLAN on the subsidiary switch? I have been doing so.
For instance, VLAN 10 is 192.168.10.0/24. I have ve 10 on ICX6610 with ip addr 192.168.10.2/24 and ve 10 on ICX6450 with ip 192.168.10.3/24.
Not sure what is "best practice" here.
I don't think there is a 'best practice'.
The first step is to determine whether the traffic in the 6450 needs to be routed there, or can go over the transport link to the 6610 and back. If it can do that, then your life with layer 3 routing and access-lists will be easier as they will only live in one location. You could even have the 6450 setup in purely layer 2 mode and not even worry about VEs and IP addresses on it.
The first step is to determine whether the traffic in the 6450 needs to be routed there, or can go over the transport link to the 6610 and back. If it can do that, then your life with layer 3 routing and access-lists will be easier as they will only live in one location. You could even have the 6450 setup in purely layer 2 mode and not even worry about VEs and IP addresses on it.
you've sort of lost me there. Thanks for the input! but can you elaborate on how to determine if the traffic in the 6450 needs to be routed there?
If you have more than 10Gbit/s of traffic between devices attached to the 6450 *and* that traffic crosses VLANs, then you need layer 3 routing on the 6450 because otherwise the 10GbE link between it and the 6610 would be a bottleneck.
If you have less than 10Gbit/s of traffic between those devices, or they are on the same VLAN (and thus layer 2 switching would be sufficient), then you don't need any layer 3 configuration on the 6450 at all.