(US) 90 dollar Wyse 5070 Thin client/mini-server?

hk92doom

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B&H Photo Video has 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial Memory Kit (CT2K16G4SFRA32A) on sale for $92.99. Shipping is free.
  • Kit Configuration: 2x 16 GB
  • Speed: PC4-25600 (3200 MHz)
  • Memory Type: DDR4
  • DIMM Type: 260-Pin SO-DIMM
  • Voltage: 1.2 V
  • CAS Latency: CL22

Offer ends Dec 05 at 11:59 PM EST. Temporarily out of stock but orderable
Full technical specifications.
 

lopgok

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Crucial doesn't specify on their web site that it is double ranked.
The memory isn't on any list I have found of compatible memory for the wyse.
I don't have enough confidence that it will work to buy it.
 

WANg

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Crucial doesn't specify on their web site that it is double ranked.
The memory isn't on any list I have found of compatible memory for the wyse.
I don't have enough confidence that it will work to buy it.
Here, let me throw some confidence your way and set you down for a discount. Here's the Crucial DDR4-2666 2x16GB package that I ordered for my 5070 back in June, verified working in Linux - it's down to 90 USD on Amazon Prime US for the first week of December, 2020.
For some reason Windows 10 doesn't like it very much (might need a BIOS update or something), but hey, if it's meant as a micro-server for Proxmox, it's perfectly fine.
 
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newabc

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Got an extended version. Just made a memory test on it. Memtest86 shows its BIOS version is 1.80. The m.2 sata drive is bending at a curve by the current screw now.
 

cageek

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The m.2 sata drive is bending at a curve by the current screw now.
A suggested solution to this was to get a fitting motherboard standoff and grind it down to about 4mm height to create your own standoff.
Dell sells the m.2 sata+standoff separately.
 
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newabc

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A suggested solution to this was to get a fitting motherboard standoff and grind it down to about 4mm height to create your own standoff.
Dell sells the m.2 sata+standoff separately.
Thanks a lot!
The regular brass standoff is m3x6mm+4mm (like this amazon picture) or m3x6+6(like this in the box). The m3x4mm in amazon or ebay should be shipped from China. Looks like the fastest way is to grind it from 6mm to 4mm as your suggestion.
 

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I had never thought I would get a 130watts AC adapter which was supposed to work for a gaming laptop before I got the 5070 extended. Now I installed pfsense and 4 port intel nic then I should think about the power efficiency of the AC adapter if I want to run 24x7.
 

newabc

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A suggested solution to this was to get a fitting motherboard standoff and grind it down to about 4mm height to create your own standoff.
Dell sells the m.2 sata+standoff separately.
Finally I got m3x4mm+3mm standoffs from fulfiled by amazon seller and another hdd screw for this standoff.
 

cooyer

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[QUOTE =“ hk92doom,帖子:276748,成员:28205”]
在我上次使用BIOS更新冒险之后,我决定收集闪存内容。原来,主板上有几个闪存芯片。

U2501-128M位/ 16 MiB Winbond W25Q128FW
的BIOS

U2402-4M位/ 512KiB Winbond W25X40CL
用于IT8739的闪存芯片-带有LPC接口的超级I / O芯片

U5502-2M位/ 256 KiB Winbond W25X20CL
用于PS181的闪存芯片-用于仅DisplayPort本地GPU的双模式DisplayPort源支持

U9502-1M 位/ 128 KiB Gigadevice GD25D10BT
U9602-1M位/ 128 KiB Gigadevice GD25D10BT
嵌入式控制器(EC)的闪存芯片


在此过程中,我还记录了有关如何恢复BIOS的信息。

重新启动计算机。
按住键盘上的CTRL键+ ESC键,直到出现BIOS恢复页面。
从菜单中可以重置BIOS或进入BIOS恢复

BIOS恢复映像位于eMMC驱动器分区4- / EFI / Dell / Bios / Recovery
BIOS恢复文件:
BIOS_CUR.RCV
BIOS_PREV.RCV

或者,可以使用USB记忆棒恢复BIOS放入BIOS文件重命名为BIOS_IMG.RCV。
按住F12键即可进入引导菜单。
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After my last adventure with BIOS update I decided to collect the flash memory content. It turned out that there are several flash memory chips on the motherboard.

U2501 - 128M-bit/16 MiB Winbond W25Q128FW
BIOS

U2402 - 4M-bit/512KiB Winbond W25X40CL
flash chip for IT8739 - Super I/O chip w/LPC interface

U5502 - 2M-bit/256 KiB Winbond W25X20CL
flash chip for PS181 - Dual-mode DisplayPort Source enablement for a native DisplayPort-only GPUs

U9502 - 1M-bit/128 KiB Gigadevice GD25D10BT
U9602 - 1M-bit/128 KiB Gigadevice GD25D10BT
flash chip for Embedded Controller (EC)


During the process, I also took notes on how to recover the BIOS

Restart the computer.
Press and hold the CTRL key + ESC key on the keyboard until the BIOS Recovery page appears.
From the menu it is possible to reset BIOS or enter BIOS recovery

BIOS recovery images are located on eMMC drive partition 4 - /EFI/Dell/Bios/Recovery
BIOS recovery files:
BIOS_CUR.RCV
BIOS_PREV.RCV

Alternatively, it is possible to recover the BIOS using a USB stick and place the BIOS file there renamed as BIOS_IMG.RCV
Boot menu is accesible by holding the F12 key.
请问,您成功降级了么,我现在的BIOS版本是1.9,不知道能不能支持with2x8GB内存.我来自中国所以英语不太好,请您见谅!
Excuse me, have you demoted successfully? My current BIOS version is 1.9. I don't know if I can support with2x8gb memory. I come from China, so my English is not very good. Please forgive me!
 

cooyer

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B&H Photo Video has 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial Memory Kit (CT2K16G4SFRA32A) on sale for $92.99. Shipping is free.
  • Kit Configuration: 2x 16 GB
  • Speed: PC4-25600 (3200 MHz)
  • Memory Type: DDR4
  • DIMM Type: 260-Pin SO-DIMM
  • Voltage: 1.2 V
  • CAS Latency: CL22

Offer ends Dec 05 at 11:59 PM EST. Temporarily out of stock but orderable
Full technical specifications.
My current BIOS version is 1.9. I don't know if I can support with2x8gb memory
 

cooyer

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I have the Wyse Extended version, and I was planning to use it as a very low power backup solution. I knew that there are no sata slots on the board itself so I knew I had to buy a card for one of the M2 slots. Since I already have the sata ssd slot populated I started looking for a card that fits the A + E slot. I got this one from aliexpress:


And surprisingly it worked out of the box and was recognised in ESXi (6.7). I could even pass it throgh to FreeNas which recognies it immediately.


My setup is a bit wierd since I will run FreeNas Virtualized and will attach the hard drives using a Sata to Esata cable + dock, and I am still waiting for a cable which I can route through the internals so that I can close the enclosure, but I am pretty happy since everything worked out of the box.

@cageek this item might also be of interest to you since it will allow you to try a bunch of more cards.

Pics:

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can i change the VGA CARD TO GT1030?
 

WANg

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My current BIOS version is 1.9. I don't know if I can support with2x8gb memory
It can do up to 2x16GB in Linux, or 2x8 in Windows (and even that can probably be 2x16 with a newer BIOS). The max is dictated by the memory controller on the Atom SoC and not the BIOS per-se.
 

WANg

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1G?10G?
1 GbE. In order for you to have 10GbE you need at least 2 PCIe 3.0 lanes, and that M.2 A+E port is x1 or x2 (I forgot which). The real issue though? Power consumption and cooling. The M.2 slots can only put out 7w of power max, and I don't remember any 10GbE controllers for PCIe x3 with power consumption that low, and even if they do, keeping it cool in a chassis without a fan like the 5070 will be an issue.
 

cooyer

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[QUOTE =“ WANg,帖子:290386,成员:17824”]
在Linux中,它最多可以执行2x16GB的操作,而在Windows中,则可以执行2x8的操作(使用更新的BIOS甚至可以达到2x16)。最大值由Atom SoC上的内存控制器决定,而不是由BIOS本身决定。
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It can do up to 2x16GB in Linux, or 2x8 in Windows (and even that can probably be 2x16 with a newer BIOS). The max is dictated by the memory controller on the Atom SoC and not the BIOS per-se.
After testing, it can be known that it supports 1*16G and 1* 8G. Two 16Gs can be booted, but ESXI reports an error
 

cooyer

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Yes, but the slot is only PCIe x4, so you'll work with much less bandwidth than normal.
After the test, the GT1030 cannot be used, but the original adapter card is removed and replaced with a directly connected ADT PCIE 4x without any chip. It can be used.
 

cooyer

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1 GbE. In order for you to have 10GbE you need at least 2 PCIe 3.0 lanes, and that M.2 A+E port is x1 or x2 (I forgot which). The real issue though? Power consumption and cooling. The M.2 slots can only put out 7w of power max, and I don't remember any 10GbE controllers for PCIe x3 with power consumption that low, and even if they do, keeping it cool in a chassis without a fan like the 5070 will be an issue.
thank u
 

cooyer

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For the sake of completeness...
Users reported Dual Rank 2Rx8 memory to be compatible with J5005/J4105
260-Pin, SODIMM, non-ECC

Kingston ValueRAM stick (KVR24S17D8/16)
Corsair CMSX32GX4M2A2400C16 Vengeance 32GB kit (2x16GB)
Crucial CT2K16G4SFD824A 32GB kit (2x16GB)

ASRock J5005-ITX Memory QVL
DDR4 Corsair 3200 2400 16GB CMSX32GX4M2B3200C16
DDR4 Corsair 2666 2400 16GB CMSX64GX4M4A2666C18
DDR4 Crucial 2400 2400 16GB CT16G4SFD824A.16FB1
DDR4 Crucial 2133 2133 16GB MTA16ATF2G64HZ-2G1A1
DDR4 G.Skill 2666 2400 16GB F4-2666C18D-32GRS
DDR4 G.Skill 2133 2133 16GB F4-2133C15S-16GRS

*2GB DRAM per module is not supported.
*2GB DRAM per module is supported with BIOS 1.9