Topton Jasper Lake Quad i225V Mini PC Report

SandlesNoSand

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me too got the 6port j6413 with proxmox and opnsense with passthrough nics, works good so far.
What did you exactly do to check cpu cooling, sry i dont really get the steps. I would like to check mine also

BR
I'm at 37 Degrees.
Currently, OPNsense is running Zenarmour and a bunch of other plugins.
Check my turntables. Perhaps they have helped. Take a look at my previous posts for other ideas!
 

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I'm at 37 Degrees.
Currently, OPNsense is running Zenarmour and a bunch of other plugins.
Check my turntables. Perhaps they have helped. Take a look at my previous posts for other ideas!
I set your tunables on mine and looks to drop the temp by 3-5c. thanks.

I did not set the zenarmor one as I am not using it an my config marks it as invalid.
 
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omrij

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Can anyone with n6005/n5105/j6413 show the output of
Code:
iperf3 -s -D && iperf3 -c 127.0.0.1
Under opnsense/pfsense
Thanks in advance
 
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andrea87

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Done that test with OPNsense, pentium 7505, proxmox + vm. OPN has all 2 cores / 4 threads available.

in OPNsense:

1669098948260.png

On the Proxmox host:

Code:
root@MiniPC:~# iperf3 -s -D && iperf3 -c 127.0.0.1
Connecting to host 127.0.0.1, port 5201
[  5] local 127.0.0.1 port 53482 connected to 127.0.0.1 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr  Cwnd
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  7.49 GBytes  64.4 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  5.60 GBytes  48.1 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  7.57 GBytes  65.1 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  7.45 GBytes  64.0 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  7.51 GBytes  64.5 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  7.60 GBytes  65.3 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  7.47 GBytes  64.1 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  7.57 GBytes  65.0 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  7.52 GBytes  64.6 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  7.61 GBytes  65.4 Gbits/sec    0   3.12 MBytes       
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
[  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  73.4 GBytes  63.0 Gbits/sec    0             sender
[  5]   0.00-10.04  sec  73.4 GBytes  62.8 Gbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.
 
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T.Sharp

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N5100 running opnsense.

dev.hwpstate_intel.x.epp = 50 (default)

Code:
root@OPNsense:~ # iperf3 -s -D && iperf3 -c 127.0.0.1
Connecting to host 127.0.0.1, port 5201
[  5] local 127.0.0.1 port 32557 connected to 127.0.0.1 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr  Cwnd
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  1.58 GBytes  13.5 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  1.69 GBytes  14.5 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  1.72 GBytes  14.8 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  1.73 GBytes  14.9 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  1.69 GBytes  14.5 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  1.65 GBytes  14.1 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  1.71 GBytes  14.7 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  1.71 GBytes  14.7 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  1.66 GBytes  14.3 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  1.62 GBytes  13.9 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
[  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  16.8 GBytes  14.4 Gbits/sec    0             sender
[  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  16.8 GBytes  14.4 Gbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

dev.hwpstate_intel.x.epp = 85

Code:
root@OPNsense:~ # iperf3 -s -D && iperf3 -c 127.0.0.1
Connecting to host 127.0.0.1, port 5201
[  5] local 127.0.0.1 port 47602 connected to 127.0.0.1 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr  Cwnd
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  1.22 GBytes  10.5 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  1.28 GBytes  11.0 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  1.31 GBytes  11.3 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  1.31 GBytes  11.3 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  1.26 GBytes  10.9 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  1.30 GBytes  11.2 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  1.34 GBytes  11.5 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  1.30 GBytes  11.2 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  1.31 GBytes  11.2 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  1.28 GBytes  11.0 Gbits/sec    0   2.01 MBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
[  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  12.9 GBytes  11.1 Gbits/sec    0             sender
[  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  12.9 GBytes  11.1 Gbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.
 
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pioneer-1

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Hi all,

I received my ordered Topton N5105 device with i226-V NICs last week as barebone. I added ram and NVME which I still had at home.

What confuses me, are the following things:
  • When switched off and power plug is still attached to the device, it consumes 3 watts - Why? Wake on LAN is switched off on bios. The power supply unit is from liteOn and seems to be ok, since it consumes no power when the computer is plugged off.
  • „Idle“ power with Opnsense is 13 watts maybe quite high?
  • The cpu requires 1,7 volts in bios. Maybe quite high?
  • The board has no manufacturer information stored in bios and also no sticker on board from manufacture, only the one on the back
Is it maybe not best quality?

I applied already some bios tweaks on reducing P1/P2 wattage and some others, described some pages before in this thread.


Bios has version V105

Board Revision seems to be V3

what do you think?
 

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sqrwv

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Good news, everyone! (in Professor Farnsworth voice)

I just unlocked all my AMI BIOS hiden options!
My Motherboard is a GF-1338NP-12, revision V1.4 printed on board and windows software says it's a Techvision TVI7309X.

This works for AMI BIOS, after pressing DEL and inside BIOS options, press one of these: CRTL-F1, SHIFT-F1 or ALT-F1.
In my case pressing CRTL-F1 while at inside BIOS will unhide or hide back all the hidden advanced options.
I didn't try anything more, just going to explore the ton of options now.

ATTENTION: Probably changing some of the hidden options can brick/damage the BOX, so change only what you know is safe.

Before:
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After:
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SOURCE: https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-unlock-the-ami-hidden-bios-settings
 
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sqrwv

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that is why i asked here for ppl to take a look.... the main issue is that , at least mine, will not do 2.8 with 20w or 30w PL1 ... i dont want it to pull 12.5W .... i want it to go full speed until it hits thermal limit.
There are a lot of hidden options to explore, maybe this option (or others) will remove you MB low temperature throttling, see description and if you have my BIOS values:
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burtal

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yes...CW mobos have the unlocked bios ...changed a lot of settings ... few actually have an impact on perf or power
 

burtal

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Hi all,

I received my ordered Topton N5105 device with i226-V NICs last week as barebone. I added ram and NVME which I still had at home.

What confuses me, are the following things:
  • When switched off and power plug is still attached to the device, it consumes 3 watts - Why? Wake on LAN is switched off on bios. The power supply unit is from liteOn and seems to be ok, since it consumes no power when the computer is plugged off.
  • „Idle“ power with Opnsense is 13 watts maybe quite high?
  • The cpu requires 1,7 volts in bios. Maybe quite high?
  • The board has no manufacturer information stored in bios and also no sticker on board from manufacture, only the one on the back
Is it maybe not best quality?

I applied already some bios tweaks on reducing P1/P2 wattage and some others, described some pages before in this thread.


Bios has version V105

Board Revision seems to be V3

what do you think?
yes ... all of those are default :)

i think you should check for the gap and mitigate it .... you will get way better temps. i have the exact same model.

do you have windows installed ?
im curious if your unit boosts and maintains 2.8 ghz until thermal limit if you put PL1 to at least 20w .....but that needs to happen after you fix the gap because otherwhise it will cap really soon
 

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yes ... all of those are default :)

i think you should check for the gap and mitigate it .... you will get way better temps. i have the exact same model.

do you have windows installed ?
im curious if your unit boosts and maintains 2.8 ghz until thermal limit if you put PL1 to at least 20w .....but that needs to happen after you fix the gap because otherwhise it will cap really soon
sorry, which gap do you mean?
i found no Option so far to bring the power consumption to zero, when the device is switched off. It seems it is because of the lan ports, because they still blink.
i use the pc as a Opnsense router, no windows installed.

in this case, yes, the switched-off-power consumption is irrelevant, but would be nice to know.


another question: does anybody know which pin from the 4 pin fan header is for what and what kind of plug it is exactly? I wanted to add some internal 40mm fan.
 

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another question: does anybody know which pin from the 4 pin fan header is for what and what kind of plug it is exactly? I wanted to add some internal 40mm fan.
Great timing! My connector came in the mail today, I've installed it and it's functioning correctly. I've attached a photo of the connector I used.
I attached a noctua 4010 5v 4 pin pwm fan it uses the conventional pwm fan pinout.
 

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Great timing! My connector came in the mail today, I've installed it and it's functioning correctly. I've attached a photo of the connector I used.
I attached a noctua 4010 5v 4 pin pwm fan it uses the conventional pwm fan pinout.
That’s great! I want to install the same fan like you. Do you know which pin is for which of the four PWM cables? From left to right
 

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gandsr

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That’s great! I want to install the same fan like you. Do you know which pin is for which of the four PWM cables? From left to right
Pin 1 is the one with the triangle pointing at it. I started there with black, next yellow, then green then blue. See attached diagram.
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Hello, reporting back on my (V2 I think which has a rs232 COM port) N5105 x6 225v Topton box running Proxmox. The project has been moving pretty slow due to time on my part. The unit just sits on my desk which runs a couple of Linux VM's which I use for troubleshooting things, TrueNas core small storage vault to host troubleshooting tools/steaming a video file or 2, and OpnSense.

I installed 5.19.7-1 Edge back in early Sept and I think it is safe to say that this is stable. A couple weeks after I did this, they made the 5.19 opt-in.N5105 Proxmox Uptime 5.19.7-1.png

My TrueNas VM I reported over a month ago froze out of the blue on me on this kernel but has been fine for the last 38 days but needed some manual intervention during a Upgrade this week; it never restarted after a update which pegged the CPU at 100% which also happened during that first freeze incident. No problems with crash guests and one of my Debian 11 VM's had the same 76 days uptime with 1 reboot last week which was needed for some tools. No Issues on one of my Arch VM's I built a package from source the other day which took over 10 hours with a couple of CPU's pegged at 100% topping out at 77C

So tonight I went ahead to live life more on the edge and updated PVE Edge 6.0.9-1 (2022-11-16). Too early to tell but everything went well and is good so far. I am amazed after I shut it down and cold booted it and told my main 3 VM's TrueNas, OpnSense, and MX-Linux to start at boot, everything was back up in less then 1 minute and 30 seconds. About to build that same package from source on that Arch VM to monitor for any freezes.

I just found out as of writing this that Proxmox VE 7.3 just got released with updated 5.15 and optional 5.19 kerenls. Details here Proxmox VE 7.3 released!

I am going to wait on 7.3 since just did the 6.0.9-1 kernel and have not heard any details on this yet and 7.3 since it got released. Also I heard some earlier versions on this 6.0 Edge kernel was causing Debian guests freeze but the details on this are sketchy. Might be worth checking this out if anyone is having any issues with the i226V nics.

I will report back if I have any issues or if I go ahead on the 7.3 update.
 
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Hello All and Happy Thanksgiving!! Just got my Ryzen 5800U unit - waiting for memory upgrade for dual channel (32GB) - Makes a good impression so far . . . I did see the latest article and video from Patrick - I think I found a potential cable for that strange NVME connector on the motherboard - Just gotta find out where to get one . . .

AliExpress-CW56-58-AMD-Ryzen-7-5825U-4x-i226-V-Internal-M.2-Side-View.jpg
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DomFel

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Can anyone with n6005/n5105/j6413 show the output of
Code:
iperf3 -s -D && iperf3 -c 127.0.0.1
Under opnsense/pfsense
Thanks in advance
N6005 from Proxmox

[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 3.46 GBytes 29.7 Gbits/sec 2 767 KBytes
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 3.61 GBytes 31.0 Gbits/sec 0 767 KBytes
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 3.78 GBytes 32.5 Gbits/sec 1 767 KBytes
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 3.68 GBytes 31.7 Gbits/sec 0 767 KBytes
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 3.64 GBytes 31.2 Gbits/sec 0 767 KBytes
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 3.46 GBytes 29.7 Gbits/sec 0 895 KBytes
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 3.79 GBytes 32.5 Gbits/sec 0 767 KBytes
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 3.33 GBytes 28.6 Gbits/sec 4 767 KBytes
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 3.27 GBytes 28.1 Gbits/sec 1 895 KBytes
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 3.62 GBytes 31.1 Gbits/sec 1 895 KBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 35.6 GBytes 30.6 Gbits/sec 9 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.04 sec 35.6 GBytes 30.5 Gbits/sec receiver


N6005 from pfsense within Proxmox

[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 3.17 GBytes 27.2 Gbits/sec 0 862 KBytes
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 2.89 GBytes 24.8 Gbits/sec 0 1.62 MBytes
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 2.64 GBytes 22.7 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 2.57 GBytes 22.1 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 2.61 GBytes 22.4 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 2.49 GBytes 21.4 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 2.61 GBytes 22.4 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 2.57 GBytes 22.1 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 2.62 GBytes 22.5 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 2.62 GBytes 22.5 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 26.8 GBytes 23.0 Gbits/sec 0 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.08 sec 26.8 GBytes 22.8 Gbits/sec receiver
 
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