Super Cheap Hitachi UltraStar C10k600 450GB 2.5" TCG Encryption Hard Drives

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Emulsifide

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FYI. Call them to get them to do the shipping thing for your invoice. I asked about having so many auctions of the same drives and it seems they are posting them as they wipe them(and undercutting themselves...).
You don't need to call them unless you want a quote beforehand. Their shipping is reasonable and the cost at the actual weight. Again, I paid about $30 for my first batch of 26 drives shipped via FedEx to Detroit, Michigan.
 

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@Emulsifide are you able to check the power on hours for your drives?
Nope. SMART isn't showing hour data I'm assuming because it's a NetApp drive. Power-on count seems fairly low. I wouldn't bother trying to determine the read and write error counts, since the value is probably a NetApp thing too. Here's the SMART data for three of my drives:

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[root@esxivsan4:~] esxcli storage core device smart get -d naa.5000cca025ad73d4
Parameter                     Value        Threshold  Worst
----------------------------  -----------  ---------  -----
Health Status                 OK           N/A        N/A
Media Wearout Indicator       N/A          N/A        N/A
Write Error Count             3579         N/A        N/A
Read Error Count              -1747264636  N/A        N/A
Power-on Hours                N/A          N/A        N/A
Power Cycle Count             20           N/A        N/A
Reallocated Sector Count      N/A          N/A        N/A
Raw Read Error Rate           N/A          N/A        N/A
Drive Temperature             25           N/A        N/A
Driver Rated Max Temperature  N/A          N/A        N/A
Write Sectors TOT Count       N/A          N/A        N/A
Read Sectors TOT Count        N/A          N/A        N/A
Initial Bad Block Count       N/A          N/A        N/A
[root@esxivsan4:~] esxcli storage core device smart get -d naa.5000cca0214816c8
Parameter                     Value      Threshold  Worst
----------------------------  ---------  ---------  -----
Health Status                 OK         N/A        N/A
Media Wearout Indicator       N/A        N/A        N/A
Write Error Count             18046      N/A        N/A
Read Error Count              580738516  N/A        N/A
Power-on Hours                N/A        N/A        N/A
Power Cycle Count             23         N/A        N/A
Reallocated Sector Count      N/A        N/A        N/A
Raw Read Error Rate           N/A        N/A        N/A
Drive Temperature             25         N/A        N/A
Driver Rated Max Temperature  N/A        N/A        N/A
Write Sectors TOT Count       N/A        N/A        N/A
Read Sectors TOT Count        N/A        N/A        N/A
Initial Bad Block Count       N/A        N/A        N/A
[root@esxivsan4:~] esxcli storage core device smart get -d naa.5000cca025b698e4
Parameter                     Value       Threshold  Worst
----------------------------  ----------  ---------  -----
Health Status                 OK          N/A        N/A
Media Wearout Indicator       N/A         N/A        N/A
Write Error Count             25015       N/A        N/A
Read Error Count              -179296198  N/A        N/A
Power-on Hours                N/A         N/A        N/A
Power Cycle Count             32          N/A        N/A
Reallocated Sector Count      N/A         N/A        N/A
Raw Read Error Rate           N/A         N/A        N/A
Drive Temperature             26          N/A        N/A
Driver Rated Max Temperature  N/A         N/A        N/A
Write Sectors TOT Count       N/A         N/A        N/A
Read Sectors TOT Count        N/A         N/A        N/A
Initial Bad Block Count       N/A         N/A        N/A
Again, I tested with Badblocks for a few days without finding any errors.
 

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Does anyone have a clue if these would work in a HP ProLiant DL380 G7 with a HP SmartArray P410i Controller? Especially if these drives would make the server fans go crazy/full speed...

@Emulsifide
Looking at the smart data there is almost nothing usable shown...how are you going to monitor them?
 

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@Emulsifide
Looking at the smart data there is almost nothing usable shown...how are you going to monitor them?
I'm not worried about it. VMWare VSAN 6.2 has plenty of monitoring metrics that dump a drive into failure mode if it finds the drive to be lagging behind in latency or if the realtime checksum or data scrub comes up bad.
 

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You don't need to call them unless you want a quote beforehand. Their shipping is reasonable and the cost at the actual weight. Again, I paid about $30 for my first batch of 26 drives shipped via FedEx to Detroit, Michigan.
Just curious - would you happen to know shipping dimensions and weight?
Being an aussie id need to forward and i feel shipito would charge excessively for a stack of spinners.
 

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Just curious - would you happen to know shipping dimensions and weight?
Being an aussie id need to forward and i feel shipito would charge excessively for a stack of spinners.
The box dimensions are 18x10x7 in. and weigh roughly 10lbs with 13 drives in it.
 
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So I don't really need 2.5" drives but do need some nice 10K 6Gbps drives. Any reason to care about 2.5" vs getting a 3.5" drive? Was going to look at 300 or 600GB 3.5" 10K drives. But these seem crazy cheap. That SMART output is a bit...concerning though.
 

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Countered with 15, so as others mentioned I guess that's the lowest they'll take. Which is still a freaking bargain. I guess it's time to buy another enclosure.
 

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So the NetApp firmware is obviously the reason you can't pull SMART. Not sure if this would present any other compatibility issues however.

Any chance of loading a different firmware on them?
 

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Put in an offer for 9 @ 15 each.

Now I just need to find cheap frames to put clusters of 4 into one 5.25" optical drive slot...
 

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So the NetApp firmware is obviously the reason you can't pull SMART. Not sure if this would present any other compatibility issues however.

Any chance of loading a different firmware on them?
I was thinking about this last night. It's probably possible, but I having a hard time finding the firmware on the internet.
 

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I offered earlier today for 30 at $15. Still haven't heard anything back though.
 

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Just accepted my offer. So will be getting a bunch of these in as well.

These are from the Hitachi C10K600 line. Models;
Code:
HUC106060CSS600
HUC106060CSS601
HUC106045CSS600
HUC106045CSS601
HUC106030CSS600
HUC106030CSS601
In the PDF you can see what systems these came in. Bunch of Dell R series and ProLiant.
Dell has firmware listed for 300 and 600GB models HERE. And the firmware update tool as posted earlier.
No idea if the firmware would also work on the 450GB models though, or if it will even be possible.

Perhaps one of the other compatible systems will have the firmware for a 450GB model listed. However something tells me they won't be.

I'll have a few spares so thinking about giving it a try. What's the worst that could happen? Brick them? Does anyone know if we have access to the firmware that is currently on them?
 
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