Minisforum MS-01 Review The 10GbE with PCIe Slot Mini PC

[knewt]

That being said, with a temporary nvme drive borrowed from elsewhere, the machine boots up fine with just the single 48GB. And the expansion card for the D800S is also working fine . So now just need to get the actual nvme drive for it, and sort out replacement of the faulty ram stick.

 

[oharag]

That being said, with a temporary nvme drive borrowed from elsewhere, the machine boots up fine with just the single 48GB. And the expansion card for the D800S is also working fine . So now just need to get the actual nvme drive for it, and sort out replacement of the faulty ram stick.

Where did you buy the memory for reference? I want to also purchase this 96GB Crucial Kit. May I ask how much you paid?

 

[knewt]

Where did you buy the memory for reference? I want to also purchase this 96GB Crucial Kit. May I ask how much you paid?

I bought it from LambdaTek, 2x 48GB modules rather than the kit, but they're out of stock now (of both options), and don't have an ETA for new stock.

Which is very frustrating, as they're not able to replace the DOA module for me. I can do a warranty replacement direct from Crucial, but I'll have to pay to post it to them if I do that, bleh.

Including shipping it cost me £317 total, whereas the typical price I see most places right now is £191 a module == £382.


ETA: If I cross my fingers that Royal Mail won't screw up, I can send with just £150 of loss/damage cover for only about £3, so not too bad I guess.

 

[oharag]

I bought it from LambdaTek, 2x 48GB modules rather than the kit, but they're out of stock now (of both options), and don't have an ETA for new stock.

Which is very frustrating, as they're not able to replace the DOA module for me. I can do a warranty replacement direct from Crucial, but I'll have to pay to post it to them if I do that, bleh.

Including shipping it cost me £317 total, whereas the typical price I see most places right now is £191 a module == £382.


ETA: If I cross my fingers that Royal Mail won't screw up, I can send with just £150 of loss/damage cover for only about £3, so not too bad I guess.

I bought the Crucial 96GB (2X48) kit at Amazon for $298. I was hoping it would come down in price - buy I need to get my MS-01 up and running.

I bought a 4TB Lexar w/ heat sink for $239. Having read this forum most would opt for U.2 SSD - but they are hard to find and all prices are through the roof.

 

[knewt]

I bought a 4TB Lexar w/ heat sink for $239

That's the NM790? I've looked at that, can get it at £237. Thing is, right now I can also get the SN850X for £256 (after cashback). That has no heatsink, but I could try out the one that comes with the MS-01.

Now, in practice I'm unlikely to notice the performance difference almost all the time, but with a relatively low price bump it might be worth getting the SN850X anyway!

 

[oharag]

That's the NM790? I've looked at that, can get it at £237. Thing is, right now I can also get the SN850X for £256 (after cashback). That has no heatsink, but I could try out the one that comes with the MS-01.

Now, in practice I'm unlikely to notice the performance difference almost all the time, but with a relatively low price bump it might be worth getting the SN850X anyway!

Yes SN850X over the Lexar any day. But I wanted the integrated HS. If I try to find SN850X with HS I only see 2 TB. Here on this side of the pond SN850X 4TB without HS is $319.

From a review I saw the NM790 performed pretty good so I jumped.

Newegg (USA) has SN850X 2 TB for $139 - seems like a great deal - thinking about buying these for a future NAS cache.

Oh and one thing I liked about NM790 with HS over SN850X (keep in ming the 4TB doesn't seem have a HS) is the 790 is single sides. SN850X is double sided. From Patrick's review of the MS-01 he stated something about space issues with the SSD1 slot. So I want to be cautious.

 

[SBMe]

Yeah the Lexar bigger 4TB NM790 is a very good NVMe drive. Tech Notice on YT did a fairly good review back in Jan 11, 2004 on it. However, a bit suspicious that he does not review the WD 4TB SN850X ( which I have, got great deal at Micro Center ). Your right having all the chips on one side can make a very, very big difference for some or most cases if you think about your motherboard and airflow. Does it come with a heatsink already, can you put those thermal pads on both sides in a laptop or the MS-01? I purchased a pack from Amazon that had four different sizes that worked very well with my old 8th Gen laptop, so glad I bought that.

 

[oharag]

Yeah the Lexar bigger 4TB NM790 is a very good NVMe drive. Tech Notice on YT did a fairly good review back in Jan 11, 2004 on it. However, a bit suspicious that he does not review the WD 4TB SN850X ( which I have, got great deal at Micro Center ). Your right having all the chips on one side can make a very, very big difference for some or most cases if you think about your motherboard and airflow. Does it come with a heatsink already, can you put those thermal pads on both sides in a laptop or the MS-01? I purchased a pack from Amazon that had four different sizes that worked very well with my old 8th Gen laptop, so glad I bought that.

The Samsung 980 and 990 are one-sided as well. Though they cost a bit more. I have bought the SN850X in the past. It's a fast chip. I haven't been able to find a speed/thermal comparison between the 790 and 850 - and I'm sure the 850 beats the 790 by a bit. I read the same review you referenced. Within that comparison the 790 performed well - so I made the leap. I saved maybe $100 over WD or even more over Samsung.

I initially bought 2TB WDs when I made my MS-01 purchase - and canceled when I saw the Patrick review.

 

[Fwiler]

It is NOT the CPU itself doing the bifurcation, its the motherboard!

But you think you know everything

And if you didn't have reading comprehension problems, you would notice I never said it was the CPU. How hard is it for you?
I understand you don't like being corrected when you are wrong, but that's ok. Please try some reading comprehension, and please look into what Intel themselves have said. Not me. I'm just relaying their information. If you want to dispute it, take it up with Intel. I'm sure you know more than they do. Just saying nothing below xeon e does bifurcation is just plain wrong. You also said no x4x4, but there is. So just stop.

 

[leviackerman91]

Hi guys!

I received my ms-01 today and 2 of the 3 heatsink screws (the ones to access to the ssd slot) were too tight, so they stripped a bit.

Can you tell me what screws these are, so I can buy a replacement pair?

 

[Magnet]

So much bickering about this system. I think its pretty slick for what it does.

 

[knewt]

Bleh. So my ram arrived today, two sticks of Crucial 48GB. Wasn't booting, no matter how long I waited. So tried one at a time, and one of them boots into the bios, but the other just sits there with no video

Sigh. So I finally got a replacement module from crucial RMA. And this one works, verified such on its own. And both modules in at the same time boots. But with both in there I only see 48GB of ram, not 96GB!

 

[oharag]

Sigh. So I finally got a replacement module from crucial RMA. And this one works, verified such on its own. And both modules in at the same time boots. But with both in there I only see 48GB of ram, not 96GB!

Had to boot up my MS-01 with Promox installed to double check this. I also installed Crucial 96GB (2X48GB sticks). I'm a noob with Promox but I finally found out a way to check memory.

Clicking on Summary it says I have Ram of 94.03. Don't know why it says less than 96GB? I guess the missing memory is the OS usage?

I'm going to install windows on a separate SSD and do direct boot. I will report back what Windows sees. Maybe it's OS related???

I think my BIOS was latest when got my MS-01.

 

[knewt]

More sigh. So, looks like my system is borked.

Okay, two sockets, we'll called them socket 0 (closest to heatsink) and socket 1.
And two memory modules, we'll call them module A and module B.

1) Socket 0 = module A / socket 1 = empty
This worked. Took around 90s to train the memory before booting

2) Socket 0 = module B / socket 1 = empty
As with option 1

3) Socket 0 = module A / socket 1 = module B
This booted, again taking around 90s to train. But lshw shows socket 1 as being empty, and only half the memory is visible in the bios and in linux

4) Socket 0 = module B / socket 1 = module A
As with option 3

5) Socket 0 = empty / socket 1 = module A
This never booted. Well, I gave it 5 minutes before giving up (actually I think more than 5 minutes the first time I tried)

6) Socket 0 = empty / socket 1 = module B
As with option 5

So it looks like socket 1 just isn't working at all. With only that socket populated, the machine sees no memory so doesn't boot. With both sockets populated, only the memory in socket 0 is seen.

Guess it's time to contact Minisforum, sigh.

 

[oharag]

More sigh. So, looks like my system is borked.

Okay, two sockets, we'll called them socket 0 (closest to heatsink) and socket 1.
And two memory modules, we'll call them module A and module B.

1) Socket 0 = module A / socket 1 = empty
This worked. Took around 90s to train the memory before booting

2) Socket 0 = module B / socket 1 = empty
As with option 1

3) Socket 0 = module A / socket 1 = module B
This booted, again taking around 90s to train. But lshw shows socket 1 as being empty, and only half the memory is visible in the bios and in linux

4) Socket 0 = module B / socket 1 = module A
As with option 3

5) Socket 0 = empty / socket 1 = module A
This never booted. Well, I gave it 5 minutes before giving up (actually I think more than 5 minutes the first time I tried)

6) Socket 0 = empty / socket 1 = module B
As with option 5

So it looks like socket 1 just isn't working at all. With only that socket populated, the machine sees no memory so doesn't boot. With both sockets populated, only the memory in socket 0 is seen.

Guess it's time to contact Minisforum, sigh.

search this forum. I thought I read that there was an issue with one of the PCIE cards and memory recognition. Do not know the specifics. Do you have anything in PCIE? Are all SSDs populated?

I have nothing in PCIE - SSD 1 & 2 slots populated. SSD1 - 4 TB w HS (Lexar NM790) and 2 TB w/o HS (Samsung 790 Pro).

 

[knewt]

search this forum. I thought I read that there was an issue with one of the PCIE cards and memory recognition. Do not know the specifics. Do you have anything in PCIE? Are all SSDs populated?

I have nothing in PCIE - SSD 1 & 2 slots populated. SSD1 - 4 TB w HS (Lexar NM790) and 2 TB w/o HS (Samsung 790 Pro).

So I did have a PCIe card installed, but I removed it before doing the final set of tests above. Other than that just a single relatively small (iirc 512GB) NVMe card in the main slot.

ETA: Anyway, emailed Minisforum now, and will wait to see what they say.

 

[knewt]

ETA: Anyway, emailed Minisforum now, and will wait to see what they say.

So, gonna be shipping the current machine back to them (uk address), and they'll be exchanging for a new unit. Will try getting it down to the post office tomorrow. Wonder if they'll be faster at shipping out the replacement than Crucial were with the memory!

 

[Avamander]

Ugh, the Intel NICs the MS-01 are buggy. It doesn't transmit certain packets on VLANs in bridge configurations. Took me hours to figure out what was going on (because you even see the packet on tcpdump on one end, but not the other). I see others have encountered similar problems: [SOLVED]DHCP4 clients not receiving DHCPOFFER packets / Networking, Server, and Protection / Arch Linux Forums

> The reason has to do with the I226-LM having vPro Essentials enabled on it (see links provided by seth below). The possible workaround is to disable AMT in the BIOS for this NIC, but that may not work. I will need to reach out to my OEM vendor, SimplyNUC to see if they have a solution. This really is only for the default VLAN, which is why I saw other VLANs working fine. Perhaps set up VLANs if you have a capable Ethernet switch to work around this if disabling AMT doesn't work.

The SFP+ NICs also seem incredibly picky, neither my (SGMII not HSGMII) GPON ONT or my 10G GbE Ethernet modules are accepted. Very annoying move by Intel, yet again.

 

[Tich77]

Would that default vlan be vlan1?

 

[cammj]

Is anyone receiving any of these?

Placed an order for an i5 back on the 7th of December, it was listed as "Stocks avaiable around 5h Dec. / US" (Yes' typo was included). As of 29th, it's still saying "order placed" and not shipped, been contacting minisforum and all they say is "sorry for the inconvenience, please be patient". Last email I sent to them was please cancel the order and they haven't responded to that.

Honestly, company seems borderline fraudulent. Has anyone actually received one of these in the past few weeks?