Minisforum MS-01 PCIe Card and RAM Compatibility Thread
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I'm betting it's the processor. I'm just hoping they can fix it with microcode or something, because the random crashes are really frustrating. I'm planning to buy a couple more MS01, but I think I'll go with the i5 processor this time.
Hello.
I'm a novice in the IT. And I make a home lab. I looked that a lot of people prefer to set the proxmox to a slow ssd-drive and hold virtual machines on the fastest ssd-drives. What is the benefit to this way? Why I can not simply keep all these things on the same fastest SSD? I build 10Gbps LAN at home.
I ordered 12600h. Because I think it will be enough, and the electricity bill will be a little less. Also, I don't have enough space in my server box, and there is bad ventilation. So I'll have to limit PL1 and PL2 to the low TDP. I'll plan to use Proxmox as a host. And I'll use OPNSense in a virtual machine. Also, I'll use some home services in virtual machines such as DNS, HomeAssistant, and others. I don't still know that I need ZFS-raid on the M2 SSDs. I want a guaranteed boot up Proxmox and OPNsense. Can I use 1Tb from M.2 Big SSD with 2Tb on the pci4x4 and all the small M.2 SSD 1Tb on the pci3x4 to make a raid? Afterward, I want to use the remaining part of big SSD pci4x4 as a simple drive.
Which Coral TPU unit can I use instead of the WiFi module? Please recommend me. I want to use Frigate, and I want to learn it.
So many questions...
I'm a novice in the IT. And I make a home lab. I looked that a lot of people prefer to set the proxmox to a slow ssd-drive and hold virtual machines on the fastest ssd-drives. What is the benefit to this way? Why I can not simply keep all these things on the same fastest SSD? I build 10Gbps LAN at home.
I ordered 12600h. Because I think it will be enough, and the electricity bill will be a little less. Also, I don't have enough space in my server box, and there is bad ventilation. So I'll have to limit PL1 and PL2 to the low TDP. I'll plan to use Proxmox as a host. And I'll use OPNSense in a virtual machine. Also, I'll use some home services in virtual machines such as DNS, HomeAssistant, and others. I don't still know that I need ZFS-raid on the M2 SSDs. I want a guaranteed boot up Proxmox and OPNsense. Can I use 1Tb from M.2 Big SSD with 2Tb on the pci4x4 and all the small M.2 SSD 1Tb on the pci3x4 to make a raid? Afterward, I want to use the remaining part of big SSD pci4x4 as a simple drive.
Which Coral TPU unit can I use instead of the WiFi module? Please recommend me. I want to use Frigate, and I want to learn it.
So many questions...
Putting proxmox on the slower ssd means more performance / space for your VMs but it is not a requirement just an optimization, depending on your use case it might not matter. Most nvme drives today can max out a 10G network, think about what kind of performance you need for your purpose and then decide where to put them.
You usually do not want to raid a 2TB and 1TB drive together as you will end up with 2TB of capacity at best for a stripe at the cost of reliability and only 1TB for a mirror though you will gain drive redundancy that way, either way your performance will be limited by the slower of the two.
The coal m.2 a+e key will work in the wifi slot, I have one in mine and have not had any issues with frigate and several cameras, you might want to think about more storage if you plan on retaining much video. Get the m.2 module with the single coral on it, it costs less and the dual coral will only show up as a single (no bifurcation). You can also pass through the iGPU to frigate in a LXC container if you do not want to use the gpu for other purposes (i.e. transcoding) and save the ~$25 it costs.
All that being said, your stated purpose is a home lab and labs are for experimentation, so try stuff out. You can always wipe it and do it differently the next time if you decide you didn't like how it performed.
Here's my i5 running pfsense. I fitted a 10gtek dual 10gb rj45 network card today as my isp hand off is 8gb/8gb over 10gb rj45. My lan is also 10gb rj45. I modded the top for the fan which is a 3 speed 5v usb. It's only on low speed and seems fine. Cpu core temps at 30 -34. Watt meter reports 25-30watts depending on what it's doing. Love the free plan vertical stand mentioned on here recently.
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You need a card with a controller on it because the MS-01 does not support bifurcation
I got a glotrends single nvme card and it works fine loaded with a Lexar 4TB NM790. The double won't work though
Also got a Terramaster 4 bay USB 3.2 stuffed with SSDs. You can pass the USB 3.2 controller into TrueNAS and use the enclosure with it but you will lose your USB ports for anything else. The Thundebolt ports are still available but not for USB devices
So that's a total of 8 disks. I am getting 1GB/s to the Terramaster
Some parts for the list
DDR5 SODIMMs Tested:
Worked:
DDR5 SODIMMs Tested:
- Crucial CT32G48C40S5 32GB DIMMs
Worked:
- Intel i350-T4
DDR5 SODIMMs Tested:
- Crucial CT32G48C40S5 32GB DIMMs
- QNAP Dual 4-port SFF-8088 adapter (QNAP TL-D800S JBOD kit) : tested in pass-thu only in proxmox: seems to overheat and sata disks are disconnected and need to restart vm with pass thru. should probably be tested natively
When from FS.com, do you simply choose Generic, or is there a particular branded type you choose that works better?
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Just want to add that I have had stability & reliability with these machines. I have an i912900H with 3 NVME's and 64GB of memory. Proxmox on all the time. Has crashed 4 times silently in the last month, and today I went to move a LAN cable so I shutdown proxmox, and now the power button wont turn the unit on.
Havent talked to Miniforum yet but I am probably going to take this out of my homelab. Lesson learned with this brand. Too bad, this device on the surface seems awesome.
Havent talked to Miniforum yet but I am probably going to take this out of my homelab. Lesson learned with this brand. Too bad, this device on the surface seems awesome.
@h0schi & @SteffenAL , you upvoted a spammer who literally copied the first comment of this thread but added a dodgy website advertisement to the bottom
… and we quoted (without the advertisment) a good idea
The first comment / start-post is not really up2date anymore and new MS-01 user need to read 81 pages of this forum or asks questions that have already been answered 3 times
I have one of each generation of the I9 and no random crash whatsoever, both have 64GB, one is 4800 and the other 5600 speed.
I have the i5 version and haven't had any issues with it crashing. I am on my second one though because one of the USB4 ports didn't work but they replaced it under warranty within a week and a half with a whole other new computer and everything.
I was using the first one as a Proxmox host but then made it my daily Windows machine for a couple of weeks which is how I found out that the USB4 port didn't work. Other than that it was totally solid. I used the replacement one for a short time but I am going to put it back into prod with Proxmox because I ended up building out my new desktop.
Interesting, not sure why they would split out the m2 3x4 slot instead of the 4x4 slot, doing the later would seem to give a more balanced solution. I don't see any realistic way to provide cooling for 6 x m.2 without replacing the top lid or some other hackish solution. For my use case the loss of m.2 22110 support kills it but I could see plenty of other people finding it useful.
Guess it's a BIOS bifurcation of these lanes (do they come from PCH?), which could not be done on Gen4 CPU lanes.
Now given that MS-01 to date is still questionable in terms of longterm stability (and worse than any Intel NUC to date i had) adding this passive expander looks to me... yes confusing as i said earlier, at least.
+lack of proper cooling but guess 3d printing enthusiasts will come quickly with ugly yet functional solution.