LGA 1700 Alder Lake "Servers"

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mrmh

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mayn tiny elements vregs etc. on the mboard need some light airflow as usualy happen in a server chassis.
I think airflow produced by 1000 RPM fan can be categorized as "light". Usual server chassis is not built for ATX motherboard.
 

cmr

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I plan to build a new machine around the X13SAE-F - eventually I would like to plug in a 13900KS whenever they become available. For now, a 13900K will probably do - I have a 12700K around to flash the BIOS since it sounds like the stock as-shipped BIOS may not support Raptor Lake.

Curious what boost clocks people are seeing with 12900KS/12900K/13900K on these boards? Are the VRMs up to task?

I'd also like to know if there is anyone using a '-K' variant's iGPU under Linux? Headless is fine if need-be but I would prefer to just make this my primary workstation.

I'd also really appreciate if someone can measure the distances between the mount-pushpins on the VRM and PCH heatsinks.
 

rootshell

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Picked up an i7-13700k tonight at Microcenter for $355 USD, so it looks like I'm now committed to an LGA1700 platform home server. :)

Still debating on joining the x13SAE-F drama, or waiting to see if other boards become available that are less troublesome.
 

Weapon

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Ok this may be preliminary, still testing, but I don’t think the X13SAE has the power delivery to allow the 13900K to reach its full potential. However the 13700K is getting expected R23 numbers.
 

saf1

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Ok this may be preliminary, still testing, but I don’t think the X13SAE has the power delivery to allow the 13900K to reach its full potential. However the 13700K is getting expected R23 numbers.
Do you mind if I ask what memory you used? I'm considering using the same SuperMicro X13SAE-F motherboard to replace my existing X11SSH-CTF server (Linux/Ubuntu, NAS storage and Plex primary role). I'll have to add in a LSI 9300 for the storage as there is no imbedded controller like the CTF has. I was going to add the Quadro P400 for transcoding but may not be needed if the 13700K or 13900K on-board video transcodes. I think either CPU will be a massive upgrade over the currently used Xeon E3 1270 v5.

Supermicro only lists the memory below as certified so maybe they didn't test others and couldn't find a source.

MEM-DR532MD-EU48 32GB DDR5-4800 2RX8 (16Gb) ECC UDIMM
 

Weapon

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I'm using 2x Hynix HMCG88MEBEA

It appears Supermicro has 2 part numbers assigned to the same Hynix modules

MEM-DR532MD-EU48

MEM-DR532L-HL01-EU48
 
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RolloZ170

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If you go here you’ll see both part numbers on the same page and also the Hynix part number

MEM-DR532MD-EU48
MEM-DR532L-HL01-EU48
but ther will be another part no soon with crucial/micron or samsung chips.
MEM-DR532MD-EU48 is the base part number, can be hynix/crucial micron or samsung....
 
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saf1

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Thank you both. Very helpful. I was not aware of the manufacture nor the 2nd part number.
 

Weapon

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One thing I've noticed that's kinda interesting. If you change the PL1 and PL2 to "unlimited" the 13700K and 13900K will both still draw 253 watts and thermal throttle even with the E cores disabled. However, leaving them at stock value and a corresponding 125 watt power limit has little effect on the R23 multicore scores. From what I recall it's about a 10% hit at 125 watts vs 250+ watts. Pretty wild how inefficient the chips/P cores are at higher boost clocks. I think for me, I'm going to probably end up around 185-200 watt power limit with E cores disabled for my 13700K.

This is with a NH-D12L so cooling is somewhat limited.
 

Weapon

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Also since doing a fresh install of Windows and manually installing the latest iGPU drivers offline first thing, I've had no BSODs. Did experience a weird issue where the 225 NIC disappeared completely from BIOS and both OSes after swapping from the 13900K to the 13700K but clearing the CMOS fixed it.
 

bambi123

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Also since doing a fresh install of Windows and manually installing the latest iGPU drivers offline first thing, I've had no BSODs. Did experience a weird issue where the 225 NIC disappeared completely from BIOS and both OSes after swapping from the 13900K to the 13700K but clearing the CMOS fixed it.
I have updated to the new 2.0 BIOS, and completed a new install of windows 2019 - updated / imported all the VM's no BSOD and working really well.

However like you the I225 NIC is playing up - on our test power down and power up / reset and reboot cycles - sometimes the I225 NIC disappears - causing one of our VM switches attached to it to break. Also had other problems with the I225, like packet drops and ARP failures.

Have moved all the VM's to our 10GB NIC's and will leave the I225 for the host use only. As it is not reliable enought for remote use.

Otherwise - we will now leave the system running, with no reboot cycles to test uptime. So far so good!!
 

RolloZ170

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Hmmm. Wonder if I can engineer an AIO to work within a SM846 case....
maybe some of them fit ?
 
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Weapon

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Hmmm. Wonder if I can engineer an AIO to work within a SM846 case....
With enough time and effort probably since 3x120mm fits in the middle but this cooler would actually be a great option unless you need to run 200w+ for extended periods of time. You could add an extra fan and run them at full speed if noise isn’t a concern.
 

mrmh

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Please all of you with X13SAE(-F):
1. check temperatures in BIOS and report BIOS version and also whether degree symbol is displayed correctly (mine shows as ?)
2. report whether you have X13SAE or X13SAE-F
3. report whether you can monitor PCH temperature from Windows (only for ones with X13SAE not X13SAE-F)