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Lenovo Thinkcentre/ThinkStation Tiny (Project TinyMiniMicro) Reference Thread
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You have a Tiny 4 risercard. The M920q is Tiny 5. You should use part 01AJ940 as indicated in the 1 post of this thread.
Just bought the real Tiny 5 - works without problem.
The previous card was described by seller as 01AJ940, that's why I bought it. Got scammed, nevertheless got refund.
Can you share the pinout for that gpio header? I bought the 01AJ968, but the gpio cable it came with is different from 5C50W00926, I can modify the end but I need to know the pinout. Even just a few pictures of the cable and how it's plugged in would be enormously helpful!
Thanks in advance!
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Hi All
Just wondering if anyone:
Just wondering if anyone:
- Has tried a X550-T2 in an m90q gen1, or m920q tiny? Are there any heat issues? Would you suggest another card other X520-T2/Supermicro equivalent?
- Knows where I might get a baffle/cover for an X550-T2 for the m90q gen1 or m920q tiny, or the respective baffle for another suggestion?
Thank you everyone on this thread, it's full of useful content.
In case anyone like me has a m90q gen 3, I've been able to mount without any case modifications (but without a proper SATA positioning):
When trying to locate the parts filtering using the SN of my computer the list was partial.
I was only able to find them using the generic variant, eg: M90q Gen 3 Desktop (ThinkCentre) - Type 11U6.
Just in case someone else cannot find the parts it's looking for.
The pieces I got were:
Picture of the insides without the SATA disk:
In case anyone like me has a m90q gen 3, I've been able to mount without any case modifications (but without a proper SATA positioning):
- 3 nvme 2280
- 1 nvme 2230
- 1 SATA3
When trying to locate the parts filtering using the SN of my computer the list was partial.
I was only able to find them using the generic variant, eg: M90q Gen 3 Desktop (ThinkCentre) - Type 11U6.
Just in case someone else cannot find the parts it's looking for.
The pieces I got were:
- Ethernet 2.5G: BTB LAN 8125BGS v2card (5C50W00942)
- BLD Tiny8 PCIex4 Riser card (5C50W00909) following the suggestion from the first t
Picture of the insides without the SATA disk:
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Hey, I have a weird problem with my m720q. It came with a 135W PSU, but I added a A2000 6gb to it. I felt like 135W was a bit too close for a 35W CPU and a 75W GPU. So I upgraded the power supply to a 230W PSU. But when I used it, my CPU was "stuck" at 0.94 GHz, and would not move. So performance was atrocious. I then tried a 170W PSU, and now, it is "stuck" again, but at 2.40GHz. Is it normal? Do I need to do something in the bios or anything to "unstuck" it?
By stuck, I really mean that whatever I do, it doesn't move at all. I can be idle, or doing a hard stress test, it just stays there. On task manager, it reports 2.40GHz and in MSI afterburner 2300MHz.
By stuck, I really mean that whatever I do, it doesn't move at all. I can be idle, or doing a hard stress test, it just stays there. On task manager, it reports 2.40GHz and in MSI afterburner 2300MHz.
Another riser: Tinyriser - a better Lenovo Tiny PC riser by FairywrenTech on Tindie
I recently got the v2 of this - very nice, full x8 and x4 for the SSD. M920q.
I recently got the v2 of this - very nice, full x8 and x4 for the SSD. M920q.
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Thanks for drawing my attention to this. The background to the riser provides some very interesting info :Another riser: Tinyriser - a better Lenovo Tiny PC riser by FairywrenTech on Tindie
I recently got the v2 of this - very nice, full x8 and x4 for the SSD. M920q.
"Want to get the most out of your 8th/9th gen Lenovo Tiny? Tiny(a)riser is a custom PCIe riser that exposes a hidden PCIe link, enabling configurations not possible before! It's compatible with the ThinkCentre M720q, M920q, M920x and ThinkStation P330 Tiny, and lets you use a low profile PCIe card and an extra M.2 NVMe SSD at the same time.
This is possible because the riser slot on the motherboard actually contains two PCIe links, one x8 link and one x4 link. The x8 link comes from the CPU and was meant for GPU equipped models, while the x4 link comes from the PCH and was meant for the Thunderbolt and NIC equipped models. Lenovo made two different risers for these configurations, only using one link at a time, but this riser gives you both PCIe links at once! The two links are completely independent and are able to function at the same time."
Which explains all the various problems with the two different risers, Thunderbolt cards, etc.
Haha hi, that's my riser! Store isn't open yet at the moment, currently working on assembling more v2 boards. When they're ready for sale the store page will be updated for the v2 info. I was holding off on posting about it here until I had some stock, but now that it's on here anyway I'd love to hear what people think.
I've been working on my own Tiny5 riser since around the beginning of 2023, v1 has been out there for a while, maybe some people here have one.
It supports a PCIe x8 link from the CPU on the main x16 slot, and the x4 PCH link on the m.2 slot, and works in all Tiny5 models without any mainboard modifications, just plug and play.
I've been using it myself in an m720q for over a year now, in combination with an Nvidia Tesla P4 and an SSD for storage as my little gaming server.
From here on out I'll only be making v2 boards, they have a number of improvements over the first version, including a better general fit, fan header, mounting hole and a point to solder to if you want the slot's 12V.
I'm also planning to make one for the Tiny6 machines, M90q Gen 1/2 and P340/P350 Tiny, but I'm still working on getting my hands on some hardware to test that with, those machines are still quite expensive.....
Once I have stock to sell I'll make the board files open source, it's made in KiCad and I'd love to see other people's variations on it. I think a taller version that can support full profile PCIe cards would be really cool.
In the mean time, if you're interested in one you can already mail to my friend who's handling the store page for me at crimier@protonmail.com
I'll attach some images to show how it looks in action (hopefully I did that right, this is my first time using this forum lol):
I've been working on my own Tiny5 riser since around the beginning of 2023, v1 has been out there for a while, maybe some people here have one.
It supports a PCIe x8 link from the CPU on the main x16 slot, and the x4 PCH link on the m.2 slot, and works in all Tiny5 models without any mainboard modifications, just plug and play.
I've been using it myself in an m720q for over a year now, in combination with an Nvidia Tesla P4 and an SSD for storage as my little gaming server.
From here on out I'll only be making v2 boards, they have a number of improvements over the first version, including a better general fit, fan header, mounting hole and a point to solder to if you want the slot's 12V.
I'm also planning to make one for the Tiny6 machines, M90q Gen 1/2 and P340/P350 Tiny, but I'm still working on getting my hands on some hardware to test that with, those machines are still quite expensive.....
Once I have stock to sell I'll make the board files open source, it's made in KiCad and I'd love to see other people's variations on it. I think a taller version that can support full profile PCIe cards would be really cool.
In the mean time, if you're interested in one you can already mail to my friend who's handling the store page for me at crimier@protonmail.com
I'll attach some images to show how it looks in action (hopefully I did that right, this is my first time using this forum lol):
I'm using a 01AJ940, bought on ebay. Would a bad GPU riser really make my CPU speeds weird?
It was more that it seems from the text I pasted above that the risers expose different PCIe lanes and perhaps the 4x PCH ones don't provide enough power.
I have this same issue myself, but with a 300W brick. I think it's because the board's overcurrent protection circuit only supports modes for up to 135W power supplies. I've probed my board with a 300W brick plugged in and the actual setting it applied was the 65W one.... This resulted in the CPU power throttling basically constantly. I have an LED soldered to the pin of the chip that sends the overcurrent signal and it's lit most of the time.
Does anyone actually have an M720q/M920q/M920x/P330 running with a PSU larger than 135W and not have issues with this?
Great job, man! That is very impressive in terms of the riser has one M.2 NVMe and, mainly, 12v pin as well. So important because many of NICs are passive cooling and become hot quickly!
I have one P340 and I will wait for the new version of Tinyariser for it.
Thanks for the info! I was thinking to upgrade to a P350 11700t, would I have the same problem with a P350?
Thanks! I figured since I was using a USB fan with the Tesla P4 before anyway it'd be nice to have a connection for one built in. I hope to be able to get the Tiny6 one done in a few months, the Tiny6 riser slot is so much more interesting so it'll be some work figuring out how to break it all out.
I wish I could already start working on a TIny8 one as well, but there's no schematics for any boards with that slot on them available yet...
That's an interesting question, for the Tiny5 machines the 135W id limit lines up with the biggest power supply any of those machines shipped with, however on the schematic for the M90q gen 1 and P340 the id settings go up to 170W while they shipped with up to 230W, wonder how that works.
Either way I believe the P350 should at least be equal to that and since Lenovo shipped it with 170W and 230W adapters according to the psref, using those shouldn't give you any problems.
Damn, these look amazing. I especially like the idea of a usable fan header, since I have 4 of these with Teslas using usb powered fans... I was actually considering splicing off the cpu fan so that I could power a fan for the teslas, but haven't gotten around to trying it...
Any idea how long it will be before you're selling the v2 models?
Thank youuu, I'm on a mission to make PCBs look less boring lol. I was running the Tesla P4 with a USB fan as well when I was still using v1, having the header built in makes it so much nicer indeed. This riser actually also has an extra header footprint next to the fan header that has the fan header's PWM and Tacho pins connected to it, meant for a possible future fan controller addon that lets you control the fan speed. I haven't designed that module yet though, not sure if I will but the possibility is there.
I can't say exactly how long it will be until they're available, but I'd estimate I can have a small batch ready in a month or so, maybe a little longer, I'm pretty busy with other things too this month.