My understanding is that USB NICs are particularly unreliable since they're all (or almost all) based on Realtek chipsets
I think I'll buy this one (the one based on the Intel i226) as soon as it goes below $20 again and run some tests
Lenovo Thinkcentre/ThinkStation Tiny (Project TinyMiniMicro) Reference Thread
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I think I'll buy this one (the one based on the Intel i226) as soon as it goes below $20 again and run some tests
The only way I've seen someone use a non GE with a Tiny model is they used a BIOS programmer to flash either a specific BIOS or one that was customized for them - reddit thread here:
overall you'd be capped by the CPU TDP and so you wouldn't get full performance from that 8700G - however there are some users on youtube who are able to remove the TDP restriction thru another piece of software -the machines used in those examples are like, early gen m70q/m720q, can't quite remember - should be an easy search on youtube
Hi All, firstly wanted to say thank you all for the great resources and discussions!
I've been retrofitting an m720q to work as a game/emulation streaming server, I've installed a CC150 and intend to run it close to 65W TDP (I've unlocked the BIOS, so can set the PL limits)
Being an idiot, I bought the wrong 65W heatsink(01EF554) for the previous generation, does anyone know if this heatsink can fit the m720q?
EDIT: Apparently these heatsinks are incompatible.
Also on a different tangent, I've been looking into the power consumption of the PCIe x8 and according to this github issue post by jcb40:
I'm planning to provide a separate 12v power supply to the box so that I can take all these fans off the 12v rail with the hopes it can provide the extra power to the GPU, I think with some undervolting I can get the card to run at its maximum potential.
This also provides room to attach an additional fan for increased airflow, ideally I'd like to have this 'extra rail' taken off the 20V DC IN so that a 185W power supply can handle the whole device (Board takes max 135W + ~25W for fans, 185W @ 88% efficiency = ~ 163W) but for the time being I'll be using a separate 12V line mounted in my 3D printed case, will report back with more details/results if anyone's interested.
I've been retrofitting an m720q to work as a game/emulation streaming server, I've installed a CC150 and intend to run it close to 65W TDP (I've unlocked the BIOS, so can set the PL limits)
Being an idiot, I bought the wrong 65W heatsink(01EF554) for the previous generation, does anyone know if this heatsink can fit the m720q?
EDIT: Apparently these heatsinks are incompatible.
Also on a different tangent, I've been looking into the power consumption of the PCIe x8 and according to this github issue post by jcb40:
The CPU fan models differ from a 0.8A (9.6W) to 1.6A (19W), the fans on my GPU (Gigabyte RTX3050 LP) consume about 4W while the card is rated for a 70W power draw.
I'm planning to provide a separate 12v power supply to the box so that I can take all these fans off the 12v rail with the hopes it can provide the extra power to the GPU, I think with some undervolting I can get the card to run at its maximum potential.
This also provides room to attach an additional fan for increased airflow, ideally I'd like to have this 'extra rail' taken off the 20V DC IN so that a 185W power supply can handle the whole device (Board takes max 135W + ~25W for fans, 185W @ 88% efficiency = ~ 163W) but for the time being I'll be using a separate 12V line mounted in my 3D printed case, will report back with more details/results if anyone's interested.
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Please do report back your progress.
The Tinyriser v2 has a 12V output but I assume you already know that/is not useful for your case.
Hmm I was planning on tying the PWM from the CPU Header to any additional fans, having a separate PWM and header that doesn't throw a fit in the BIOS if it's not hooked up properly could be useful though, might be something to look at further down the line if this yields any results
I recovered one of my M90q gen 3 a few weeks ago from corrupt BIOS.
I found the easiest way is to dump a BIOS image from another system but before installing will need to clean the me region.
Hardware:
CH341A with WSON 8*6 probe
Software:
AsProgrammer *I had to manually add the chip.
MFitTool
ME Analyzer
hxd hex editor
The serial number will be in the BIOS image, you can backup your original and use the hxd to find it.
Hi folks,
I have a ThinkCentre M720q (i5-8500) that I was trying to install a quad NIC into.
It was working fine beforehand - I powered it off, installed the NIC and riser (observing anti-static precautions), and now it won’t power up at all: no fan spin, no LEDs, no signs of life.
I removed the NIC and riser, but the system is still completely dead.
So far, I’ve:
The NIC I installed was this one:
“LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU: 00JY854 (Low Profile)”
However, the card I received has different stickers, but the board layout, components, and silkscreen are identical. It appears to be an Oracle-branded version instead:
Oracle PN: 7070195 Rev:01
The riser is:
“Lenovo ThinkCentre M920q M910x M720q P330 Tiny5 PCIe Riser 01AJ940”
The sticker on the one I received matches that part number.
I did some research beforehand (thanks largely to this thread) and believed both were compatible with the M720q.
I have some electronics and soldering experience if it comes to board-level diagnostics, but I’m not sure where to begin.
Any suggestions or known failure points would be hugely appreciated - or am I likely out of luck here?
Thanks in advance!
I have a ThinkCentre M720q (i5-8500) that I was trying to install a quad NIC into.
It was working fine beforehand - I powered it off, installed the NIC and riser (observing anti-static precautions), and now it won’t power up at all: no fan spin, no LEDs, no signs of life.
I removed the NIC and riser, but the system is still completely dead.
So far, I’ve:
- Tried a different power brick (confirmed 20V output from both using a multimeter)
- Removed the CMOS battery, SSD, and RAM
- Held the power button for 30-60 seconds
- Waited ~30 minutes before reassembling
The NIC I installed was this one:
“LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU: 00JY854 (Low Profile)”
However, the card I received has different stickers, but the board layout, components, and silkscreen are identical. It appears to be an Oracle-branded version instead:
Oracle PN: 7070195 Rev:01
LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU:00JY854 (LOW PROFILE) -USED | eBay UK
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU:00JY854 (LOW PROFILE) -USED at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products!
www.ebay.co.uk
The riser is:
“Lenovo ThinkCentre M920q M910x M720q P330 Tiny5 PCIe Riser 01AJ940”
The sticker on the one I received matches that part number.
I did some research beforehand (thanks largely to this thread) and believed both were compatible with the M720q.
I have some electronics and soldering experience if it comes to board-level diagnostics, but I’m not sure where to begin.
Any suggestions or known failure points would be hugely appreciated - or am I likely out of luck here?
Thanks in advance!
Can I run an NVMe SSD in the M.2-E wifi slot with an adapter? If so does anyone have some pics of how they gave done it? I am going to build a few of the riser cards with PCIex4 and 2 x NVMe slots, I want to use the onboard SATA, and 2 underside NVMe slots on my P330 Tiny. If the wifi slot is useable with an SSD can it be selected for boot?
I found this post in here: Lenovo Thinkcentre/ThinkStation Tiny (Project TinyMiniMicro) Reference Thread - I assume you can cut this board down shorter along the perforations?
I found this post in here: Lenovo Thinkcentre/ThinkStation Tiny (Project TinyMiniMicro) Reference Thread - I assume you can cut this board down shorter along the perforations?
See my post, almost 100% motherboard is dead because custom pci-e connector. (look for the inspur name on the card)Hi folks,
I have a ThinkCentre M720q (i5-8500) that I was trying to install a quad NIC into.
It was working fine beforehand - I powered it off, installed the NIC and riser (observing anti-static precautions), and now it won’t power up at all: no fan spin, no LEDs, no signs of life.
I removed the NIC and riser, but the system is still completely dead.
So far, I’ve:
Still no power — nothing happens when pressing the button.
- Tried a different power brick (confirmed 20V output from both using a multimeter)
- Removed the CMOS battery, SSD, and RAM
- Held the power button for 30-60 seconds
- Waited ~30 minutes before reassembling
The NIC I installed was this one:
“LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU: 00JY854 (Low Profile)”
However, the card I received has different stickers, but the board layout, components, and silkscreen are identical. It appears to be an Oracle-branded version instead:
Oracle PN: 7070195 Rev:01
LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU:00JY854 (LOW PROFILE) -USED | eBay UK
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU:00JY854 (LOW PROFILE) -USED at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products!www.ebay.co.uk
The riser is:
“Lenovo ThinkCentre M920q M910x M720q P330 Tiny5 PCIe Riser 01AJ940”
The sticker on the one I received matches that part number.
I did some research beforehand (thanks largely to this thread) and believed both were compatible with the M720q.
I have some electronics and soldering experience if it comes to board-level diagnostics, but I’m not sure where to begin.
Any suggestions or known failure points would be hugely appreciated - or am I likely out of luck here?
Thanks in advance!
i had the same situation - for my quriosity i put the riser to m720q and to be sure to m920q and effect was the same - blown mosfets on bothHi folks,
I have a ThinkCentre M720q (i5-8500) that I was trying to install a quad NIC into.
It was working fine beforehand - I powered it off, installed the NIC and riser (observing anti-static precautions), and now it won’t power up at all: no fan spin, no LEDs, no signs of life.
I removed the NIC and riser, but the system is still completely dead.
So far, I’ve:
Still no power — nothing happens when pressing the button.
- Tried a different power brick (confirmed 20V output from both using a multimeter)
- Removed the CMOS battery, SSD, and RAM
- Held the power button for 30-60 seconds
- Waited ~30 minutes before reassembling
The NIC I installed was this one:
“LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU: 00JY854 (Low Profile)”
However, the card I received has different stickers, but the board layout, components, and silkscreen are identical. It appears to be an Oracle-branded version instead:
Oracle PN: 7070195 Rev:01
LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU:00JY854 (LOW PROFILE) -USED | eBay UK
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for LENOVO 00AG522 INTEL I350-T4 4xGbE BaseT ADAPTER FRU:00JY854 (LOW PROFILE) -USED at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products!www.ebay.co.uk
The riser is:
“Lenovo ThinkCentre M920q M910x M720q P330 Tiny5 PCIe Riser 01AJ940”
The sticker on the one I received matches that part number.
I did some research beforehand (thanks largely to this thread) and believed both were compatible with the M720q.
I have some electronics and soldering experience if it comes to board-level diagnostics, but I’m not sure where to begin.
Any suggestions or known failure points would be hugely appreciated - or am I likely out of luck here?
Thanks in advance!
i only repaired (electric service) m920q
find a post on Reddit - just search "m720 blown"
I'm having a frustrating issue with my Lenovo P350 Tiny that I'm hoping someone can help me solve.
I have a P350 Tiny that originally came with an NVIDIA Quadro P1000 4GB, and I'm trying to add a 10GbE NIC to it. I successfully removed the GPU and installed the NIC, but that's where my problems started.
When the NIC is in the PCIe slot, the P350 Tiny just won't boot. The fan spins up, the power LED comes on, but there's no signal out on the built-in HDMI or DisplayPort, and none of the USB devices work either. Here's the weird part - it boots perfectly fine with the original Quadro P1000 installed, and it also boots fine with nothing in the PCIe slot at all. It's only when I put my X550-T2 in there that everything goes sideways.
My NIC is a Dell OEM X550-T2( 0FKHKC ) with two Ethernet ports. I've tried everything I can think of - updated the BIOS to the latest release, updated the firmware on the X550-T2, and even tried that pin 5 and 6 taping trick I read about to avoid SMBus errors. Nothing has worked so far.
From what I've read online, this should be a pretty straightforward process. There are tons of posts about people successfully adding 10GbE and other networking cards to Lenovo Tiny/Mini PCs. The thing is, most of the documentation I'm finding is for other variants like the M720q, and I'm not seeing much specific to the P350 Tiny.
My PCIe riser that came with my P350 Tiny is 5C50W00877.
Does anyone here have a P350 Tiny running with a 10GbE card? Ideally something with dual Ethernet ports? I'm open to trying a different NIC if that's what it takes, but I'd love to get this X550-T2 working if possible. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Happy to provide any pictures or added details!
I have a P350 Tiny that originally came with an NVIDIA Quadro P1000 4GB, and I'm trying to add a 10GbE NIC to it. I successfully removed the GPU and installed the NIC, but that's where my problems started.
When the NIC is in the PCIe slot, the P350 Tiny just won't boot. The fan spins up, the power LED comes on, but there's no signal out on the built-in HDMI or DisplayPort, and none of the USB devices work either. Here's the weird part - it boots perfectly fine with the original Quadro P1000 installed, and it also boots fine with nothing in the PCIe slot at all. It's only when I put my X550-T2 in there that everything goes sideways.
My NIC is a Dell OEM X550-T2( 0FKHKC ) with two Ethernet ports. I've tried everything I can think of - updated the BIOS to the latest release, updated the firmware on the X550-T2, and even tried that pin 5 and 6 taping trick I read about to avoid SMBus errors. Nothing has worked so far.
From what I've read online, this should be a pretty straightforward process. There are tons of posts about people successfully adding 10GbE and other networking cards to Lenovo Tiny/Mini PCs. The thing is, most of the documentation I'm finding is for other variants like the M720q, and I'm not seeing much specific to the P350 Tiny.
My PCIe riser that came with my P350 Tiny is 5C50W00877.
Does anyone here have a P350 Tiny running with a 10GbE card? Ideally something with dual Ethernet ports? I'm open to trying a different NIC if that's what it takes, but I'd love to get this X550-T2 working if possible. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Happy to provide any pictures or added details!
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Your suffering intreaged me so I did some deep googling.
In some forums this seems to be a known caveat of the cards. Some people use them with masking, or other tape over the extra edge connector! Which is clever, but feels fraught with danger to me. The original inspur servers they were made for seem likely to have an additional bus, possibly for system or power management. Those servers are also end-of-life so it's hard to find any precise documentation.
I did notice that a number of the sellers have these cards without the extra bus. There's some suggestions around that they've literally had the extra edge connector cut off and still have the circuitry on the cards. Visually - some might be clones without the extra circuitry. Or maybe inspur made two versions...?
I have seen them on AliExpress.
With extra connector:
Please help me choose!
€120,97 | Dual Port X540-t2 Inspur 10GB Network Card, RJ 45000 Megabyte Server PCIe Port
s.click.aliexpress.com
With the extra connector cut off:
@Parallax
I found an error in terms of the heatsink for the Mx20q (M720q in my case) for the 65w CPUs.
This should be P/N 01MN631, not 01EF554. I ordered two 01EF554 off of AliExpress and these didn't fit. A friend of mine has ordered 01MN631 and this one does fit. The original fan does also fit the 01MN631, with slight modification.
I found an error in terms of the heatsink for the Mx20q (M720q in my case) for the 65w CPUs.
This should be P/N 01MN631, not 01EF554. I ordered two 01EF554 off of AliExpress and these didn't fit. A friend of mine has ordered 01MN631 and this one does fit. The original fan does also fit the 01MN631, with slight modification.
Thanks for the info. I've actually got a replacement motherboard now, looks identical to my dead one. I put the riser card in first without the NIC, worked fine, added the quad NIC, still works! So it seems the parts are compatible, but maybe I accidentally shorted something on the first one.
That may come in handy, thanks! At least it gives me somewhere to look.i had the same situation - for my quriosity i put the riser to m720q and to be sure to m920q and effect was the same - blown mosfets on both
i only repaired (electric service) m920q
find a post on Reddit - just search "m720 blown"
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Hi All,
I'm looking at putting an SSD in the spare wifi slot of a Lenovo M920q. I know that I can get an adapter for it to install an M.2 2230 NVME drive. That said, I have a 64GB eMMC lying around, which was pulled from my Steam Deck. Can I use that instead of an NVME SSD assuming I'm using the M.2 A/E key adapter in the wifi slot? The purpose would just be an OS drive for Proxmox, then use the other actual SSD slot for a larger NVME drive for VMs.
I'm looking at putting an SSD in the spare wifi slot of a Lenovo M920q. I know that I can get an adapter for it to install an M.2 2230 NVME drive. That said, I have a 64GB eMMC lying around, which was pulled from my Steam Deck. Can I use that instead of an NVME SSD assuming I'm using the M.2 A/E key adapter in the wifi slot? The purpose would just be an OS drive for Proxmox, then use the other actual SSD slot for a larger NVME drive for VMs.