Lenovo 930-8i to Broadcom SAS 9460-8i SAS3508

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Not yet. I have it's smaller bother 530-8i. I think 430-8i is the HBA version.

They use storcli for these operations instead of SAS<?>flash tools. Megarec does not recognize it. I have not tried putting the jumper for SBR though. @BLinux started a thread and I added my findings there
 

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So far, we have @iblik, @BLinux and my self have successfully cross-flashed 530-8i to 9400-8i IT mode as reported here. SBR jumper is needed to convert OEM to LSI 9400.

So far no one has reported an update on 930-8i. But if that also has the SBR jumper like the LSI 9460/9480, I don't see why it couldn't be flashed to LSI FW.

StorCLI /c<ctrl#> download file=9460-8i_nopad.rom

Link to 9460-8i MegaRAID FW

Interesting tidbit on pages 5 & 6 different variants in the user guide:
Broadcom MegaRAID and HBA Tri-Mode Storage Adapters User Guide

SAS3516 chip is used in most of the 16 port MegaRAID & HBA cards. So in thoery, RAID controllers also can be flashed to IT / HBA mode. Whether it makes a logical/economical sense is totally a different matter. :)

MegaRAID
9480-8i8e
9460-16i

HBA
9400-16i
9400-16e
9400-8i8e
 
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So far, we have @iblik, @BLinux and my self have successfully cross-flashed 530-8i to 9400-8i IT mode as reported here. SBR jumper is needed to convert OEM to LSI 9400.

So far no one has reported an update on 930-8i. But if that also has the SBR jumper like the LSI 9460/9480, I don't see why it couldn't be flashed to LSI FW.

StorCLI /c<ctrl#> download file=9460-8i_nopad.rom

Link to 9460-8i MegaRAID FW

Interesting tidbit on pages 5 & 6 different variants in the user guide:
Broadcom MegaRAID and HBA Tri-Mode Storage Adapters User Guide

SAS3516 chip is used in most of the 16 port MegaRAID & HBA cards. So in thoery, RAID controllers also can be flashed to IT / HBA mode. Whether it makes a logical/economical sense is totally a different matter. :)

MegaRAID
9480-8i8e
9460-16i

HBA
9400-16i
9400-16e
9400-8i8e

With the cross flash have you tried using NVME disks with the HBA like the 9400 can. The 9400 Series stuff is so expensive i havnt even bothered looking at it for nvme drives. I'd love to forget about buying these asus x16 m.2 adapters and then running cables off that and then bifurcating the pci e slots to x4x4x4x4.
 
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Ok guys, think I might have the Intel one at least? Thanks to http://pciids.sourceforge.net/v2.2/pci.ids

Original 930-8i:
Vendor ID: 0x1000
DeviceID: 0x16
SubVendor ID: 0x1D49
SubDevice ID: 0x601

Intel RSP3DD080F:
Vendor ID: 0x1000
DeviceID: 0x16
SubVendor ID: 0x8086
SubDevice ID: 0x9461

That would go up to a 5.8 Firmware release as opposed to my current Lenovo 5.5. Latest from Broadcom was 5.9 last week.

Went through all of the LSI vendor 1000's on PCI Lookup and couldn't see a vanilla retail 9460-8i at all? :(
 

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Any progress @Ollie2001 ?
I got a 930 and wondered how to manage them from bios since it causes my box to freeze when I try to enter bios.
It might be manageable via windows but that seems sub-optimal...

Edit: Ok, so in windows it is manageable via LSA, no problem to update firmware either.

Still can't get into bios though with the card installed, pretty annoying
 
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I did a quick scan of windows driver inf file from LSI latest MR driver and VMware compatibility info:

Sub System IDs for 9460-8i are different. Also 9440-8i has two different SubDevID under windows - 9440 & 9441.

Another interesting item on VMware list - 9450-8i but can's find any info on LSI site

Code:
From Windows driver Inf

9460-16i :
VID - 1000    DID -  0014 SUBSYS 94601000

9460-8i :
VID: 1000 DID: 0016 SUB_IDS: 94611000

9440-16i :
VID: 1000 DID: 0015 SUB_IDS: 94411000

9440-8i :
VID: 1000 DID: 0017 SUB_IDS: 94401000

9440-8i :
VID: 1000 DID: 0017 SUB_IDS: 94411000

#####
From VMware compatibility info:
https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=io&details=1&deviceTypes=27&page=1&display_interval=10&sortColumn=Partner&sortOrder=Asc

No listing for 9440-8i

Model : SAS 9400-8i
Number of Ports: 8
VID: 1000 / DID: 00af  / SVID: 1000 / SSID: 3010

Model :     MegaRAID SAS 9460-8i /w JBOD Mode
Number of Ports:    8
VID: 1000 / DID: 0016 / SVID: 1000 / SSID: 9a61

Interesting:
Model :    MegaRAID Tri-Mode SAS3408
Number of Ports:    0  
VID: 1000 / DID: 0017 /  SVID: 0000 / SSID: 0000

Model :    MegaRAID SAS 9450-8i
Number of Ports:    8  
VID :    1000 /  DID :    0016 / SVID :    1000 / SSID :    9450
 
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Another interesting item on VMware list - 9450-8i but can's find any info on LSI site
There are actually quite a few of these quasi existing cards. And not just cards, but also ICs like SAS3404, SAS3504. LSI adds PCI IDs to their drivers during development so it is possible that some of these products never see a light of day.
 

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HDD need to reserve 20% = 12TB HDD ,uses 9 TB but reserve 3TB , - If you try writing above 9TB it fails to recognize HDD , this is a fun part ( take card out of pcie about a day or 2 then it recognize HDD or disconnect Battery a day or 2 , LSI authourity software set software RAID to JBOD vice-versa from JBOD back to RAID )
The Card work but you have to play with it ,i know it is time consuming & frustrating
I have 4 pcie , 2 pcie that recognize the Card , the other 2 pcie would fail to recognize the card , All 4 pcie is 3.1 &16x .
works on pcie 2 16x 8x
The other problem is install software , it recognize the card ,at other times it fails to recognize ,uninstall & reinstall software.
Card works well at Temp about 55"C , Card Fails at 100"C +
 
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I'd love to forget about buying these asus x16 m.2 adapters and then running cables off that and then bifurcating the pci e slots to x4x4x4x4.
Any reason you are favoring the Asus one? I'd like to do the same for my server, but Asus stuff is very, well, consumery, which is why I have been leaning towards the Dell Quad adapter instead. Though it goes for ~$200...
 

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hey,
i am lokking for an Lenovo 430-16i to use with an Asrockrack X470D4U. Do these cards work in non Lenovo Setups?
How about drivers? can the broadcom ones be used?
And has anyone flashed a HBA like this? Or only raid cards?
Thanks for the help!
 

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Not gonna lie, I would love to work on this too, but this card sure is pricey! I don't know when I can get my hands on one. I will try :p

I must say though. I am somewhat conflicted on the market for this and if we should figure it out, how practical it would be?
 

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Ok guys, think I might have the Intel one at least? Thanks to http://pciids.sourceforge.net/v2.2/pci.ids

Original 930-8i:
Vendor ID: 0x1000
DeviceID: 0x16
SubVendor ID: 0x1D49
SubDevice ID: 0x601

Intel RSP3DD080F:
Vendor ID: 0x1000
DeviceID: 0x16
SubVendor ID: 0x8086
SubDevice ID: 0x9461

That would go up to a 5.8 Firmware release as opposed to my current Lenovo 5.5. Latest from Broadcom was 5.9 last week.

Went through all of the LSI vendor 1000's on PCI Lookup and couldn't see a vanilla retail 9460-8i at all? :(
Any news from the 930-8i fight? I've got myself a 930-8i for a very low price so I am willing to give it a try. Any ideas how I should proceed to convert it to an LSI 9460-8i?
 
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