Lenovo 930-8i to Broadcom SAS 9460-8i SAS3508

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  1. Patrick

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  2. nthu9280

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    Not yet. I have it's smaller bother 530-8i. I think 430-8i is the HBA version.

    They use storcli for these operations instead of SAS<?>flash tools. Megarec does not recognize it. I have not tried putting the jumper for SBR though. @BLinux started a thread and I added my findings there
     
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    So far, we have @iblik, @BLinux and my self have successfully cross-flashed 530-8i to 9400-8i IT mode as reported here. SBR jumper is needed to convert OEM to LSI 9400.

    So far no one has reported an update on 930-8i. But if that also has the SBR jumper like the LSI 9460/9480, I don't see why it couldn't be flashed to LSI FW.

    StorCLI /c<ctrl#> download file=9460-8i_nopad.rom

    Link to 9460-8i MegaRAID FW

    Interesting tidbit on pages 5 & 6 different variants in the user guide:
    Broadcom MegaRAID and HBA Tri-Mode Storage Adapters User Guide

    SAS3516 chip is used in most of the 16 port MegaRAID & HBA cards. So in thoery, RAID controllers also can be flashed to IT / HBA mode. Whether it makes a logical/economical sense is totally a different matter. :)

    MegaRAID
    9480-8i8e
    9460-16i

    HBA
    9400-16i
    9400-16e
    9400-8i8e
     
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    Patrick, have you tried and if you did, have you had any luck in flashing a Lenovo 930-8i to a Broadcom SAS9460-8i yet? If you did, is there a cntl-r function?

    Thanks
    Ray

     
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    With the cross flash have you tried using NVME disks with the HBA like the 9400 can. The 9400 Series stuff is so expensive i havnt even bothered looking at it for nvme drives. I'd love to forget about buying these asus x16 m.2 adapters and then running cables off that and then bifurcating the pci e slots to x4x4x4x4.
     
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    Ok guys, think I might have the Intel one at least? Thanks to http://pciids.sourceforge.net/v2.2/pci.ids

    Original 930-8i:
    Vendor ID: 0x1000
    DeviceID: 0x16
    SubVendor ID: 0x1D49
    SubDevice ID: 0x601

    Intel RSP3DD080F:
    Vendor ID: 0x1000
    DeviceID: 0x16
    SubVendor ID: 0x8086
    SubDevice ID: 0x9461

    That would go up to a 5.8 Firmware release as opposed to my current Lenovo 5.5. Latest from Broadcom was 5.9 last week.

    Went through all of the LSI vendor 1000's on PCI Lookup and couldn't see a vanilla retail 9460-8i at all? :(
     
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    Any progress @Ollie2001 ?
    I got a 930 and wondered how to manage them from bios since it causes my box to freeze when I try to enter bios.
    It might be manageable via windows but that seems sub-optimal...

    Edit: Ok, so in windows it is manageable via LSA, no problem to update firmware either.

    Still can't get into bios though with the card installed, pretty annoying
     
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    I did a quick scan of windows driver inf file from LSI latest MR driver and VMware compatibility info:

    Sub System IDs for 9460-8i are different. Also 9440-8i has two different SubDevID under windows - 9440 & 9441.

    Another interesting item on VMware list - 9450-8i but can's find any info on LSI site

    Code:
    
    From Windows driver Inf
    
    9460-16i :
    VID - 1000    DID -  0014 SUBSYS 94601000
    
    9460-8i :
    VID: 1000 DID: 0016 SUB_IDS: 94611000
    
    9440-16i :
    VID: 1000 DID: 0015 SUB_IDS: 94411000
    
    9440-8i :
    VID: 1000 DID: 0017 SUB_IDS: 94401000
    
    9440-8i :
    VID: 1000 DID: 0017 SUB_IDS: 94411000
    
    #####
    From VMware compatibility info:
    https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=io&details=1&deviceTypes=27&page=1&display_interval=10&sortColumn=Partner&sortOrder=Asc
    
    No listing for 9440-8i
    
    Model : SAS 9400-8i
    Number of Ports: 8
    VID: 1000 / DID: 00af  / SVID: 1000 / SSID: 3010
    
    Model :     MegaRAID SAS 9460-8i /w JBOD Mode
    Number of Ports:    8
    VID: 1000 / DID: 0016 / SVID: 1000 / SSID: 9a61
    
    Interesting:
    Model :    MegaRAID Tri-Mode SAS3408
    Number of Ports:    0  
    VID: 1000 / DID: 0017 /  SVID: 0000 / SSID: 0000
    
    Model :    MegaRAID SAS 9450-8i
    Number of Ports:    8  
    VID :    1000 /  DID :    0016 / SVID :    1000 / SSID :    9450
    
     
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    There are actually quite a few of these quasi existing cards. And not just cards, but also ICs like SAS3404, SAS3504. LSI adds PCI IDs to their drivers during development so it is possible that some of these products never see a light of day.
     
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    9460-16i
    HDD need to reserve 20% = 12TB HDD ,uses 9 TB but reserve 3TB , - If you try writing above 9TB it fails to recognize HDD , this is a fun part ( take card out of pcie about a day or 2 then it recognize HDD or disconnect Battery a day or 2 , LSI authourity software set software RAID to JBOD vice-versa from JBOD back to RAID )
    The Card work but you have to play with it ,i know it is time consuming & frustrating
    I have 4 pcie , 2 pcie that recognize the Card , the other 2 pcie would fail to recognize the card , All 4 pcie is 3.1 &16x .
    works on pcie 2 16x 8x
    The other problem is install software , it recognize the card ,at other times it fails to recognize ,uninstall & reinstall software.
    Card works well at Temp about 55"C , Card Fails at 100"C +
     
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    Any reason you are favoring the Asus one? I'd like to do the same for my server, but Asus stuff is very, well, consumery, which is why I have been leaning towards the Dell Quad adapter instead. Though it goes for ~$200...
     
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    hey,
    i am lokking for an Lenovo 430-16i to use with an Asrockrack X470D4U. Do these cards work in non Lenovo Setups?
    How about drivers? can the broadcom ones be used?
    And has anyone flashed a HBA like this? Or only raid cards?
    Thanks for the help!
     
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