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nthu9280 said:
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Can you please let me know which manual you are referring to?
Just skimmed thru the technical product spec for P4000IP. P 63 says High current PDB is compatible with 750W, 1200W & 1600W. However, the lengths for each of these are different. So even if the board is compatible, mounting of the board needs to be chaged.

Also, this chassis is also affected by the TA for PDB and need to be replaced if some one is adding 3rd HS cage in the 5.25 drive area
TA-1056: During Certain RAID Operations Potential System Shutdown on...
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The standard power supply cage has three different PDB mounting positions on it.
 
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Those of you that purchased the Intel R2312GL4GS from OEMXS, did you apply new thermal paste? If these have been sitting since 2012 I'm thinking it might be smart?

Also, what RAM did you get? I was going to purchase 128GB of RAM from natex.us but not sure about compatibility. Ideally would want something that I won't run into issues in this Intel system or Supermicro X9 boards (as I'm potentially picking up some SM 2U chassis with X9DRI-LN4F (+) motherboards.

They have Samsung M393B1K70DHo-YH9, Kingston AM472D3LD4P13C9EC and Hynix HMT31GR7EFR4C-PB. Just looking for a good deal on the SM/Intel compatible RAM, don't care from where.
 
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I purchased 128GB of RAM From natex.us that Nunya or whatever odd brand was. Works like a champ. all 128GB fired up without a problem on an X9 supermicro motherboard.
 
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Churchill said:
I purchased 128GB of RAM From natex.us that Nunya or whatever odd brand was. Works like a champ. all 128GB fired up without a problem on an X9 supermicro motherboard.
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Nice. I'd still prefer to go with a name brand to be honest, lol. But it is good that it works. I know SM and Kingston have had issues in the past, which is why I'm asking (no experience with Intel boards).
 
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Check in the WTS thread that Natex.us has setup. Lots of people are buying Intel boards and that RAM and not reporting issues. IF they do Natex has a quick RMA process to get you a replacement.

I was like you, thought "No way this no name RAM is going to work." Sure enough I was pleasantly surprised.
 
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JayG30 said:
Nice. I'd still prefer to go with a name brand to be honest, lol. But it is good that it works. I know SM and Kingston have had issues in the past, which is why I'm asking (no experience with Intel boards).
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I believe Nanya makes memory modules for several of the big vendors.
I might be mistaken though :)

-Jannis
 
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Well maybe I should go that route! I was thinking Samsung initially (since they tend to be listed on Supermicro supported memory list). But if they are working in SM and Intel servers for others and are a big supplier for other vendors, why not.
 
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@nhtu9280 / Markarr
As previously mentioned, the 4u chassis has three mounting "lengths".

I *think* this is the correct high power one (in fact, I ordered one as a spare last night, via $30 BO to our favorite Intel seller.)
(Sorry, can't get link to paste on iPhone) FUPPDBHC2

Not to be confused with the lower power version: FUPPDBLC

As an aside- if you have the 2u version (r2000 case), it is a totally different set of power supplies- longer and skinnier- I don't have the part numbers handy, but could look when I get home.

Pic of low power option on one of the ip4 servers... I pulled the other part number off a different one that came with 1600 watt power supplies.

Hope this helps!
 

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jwegman said:
Anyway, I also ordered a couple of the RMS25KB080 ($40 ea). There are two steppings of this card; PCIe gen2 just like the above RMS25JB080, and the newer PCIe gen3. If you go shopping for one and you expect to crossflash it, I'd suggest you get the PCIe gen3 stepping...

Here is PCIe gen3 SAS2308 variant, so it should cleanly crossflash with the LSI 9207-8i FW. I let everyone know if I'm successful once I receive these cards later next week:
Intel RMS25KB080 OEM Integrated PCIe RAID Module New Bulk Packaging

Note to all; both the RMS25JB080 mezzanine and RMS25KB080 PCIe cards are BIOS locked to a specific list of supported Intel motherboards (these will *not* work on other manufacturer's boards). Fortunately for us who have purchase the Intel S2600 boards, these make very inexpensive 6Gb HBA additions!
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It turns out, the two RMS25KB080 that I received where both the B0 (PCIe gen2) stepping, and *not* the D1 (PCIe gen3) stepping that the auction advertised!
Intel RMS25KB080 OEM Integrated PCIe RAID Module New Bulk Packaging

...but they flashed up using the LSI SAS9205-8e FW just like the RMS25JB080 mezzanine card had.

I first updated each card to the most recent Intel IR FW. you can clearly see the stepping of each is B0:
Card0; the RMS25JB080:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 20.00.00.00 (2014.09.18) 
Copyright (c) 2008-2014 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved 

     Advanced Mode Set

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0) 

     Controller Number              : 0
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0) 
     PCI Address                    : 00:05:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-7-8925-6000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.06
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.06
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2714 (IR)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.02.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : RMS25JB080
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.00.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : 07.27.01.00
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25JB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
RMS25KB080 1:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 20.00.00.00 (2014.09.18) 
Copyright (c) 2008-2014 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved 

     Advanced Mode Set

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0) 

     Controller Number              : 1
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0) 
     PCI Address                    : 00:07:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-6-6C95-6000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.06
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.06
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2714 (IR)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.02.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : RMS25KB080
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.00.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : 07.27.01.00
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25KB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
RMS25KB080 Card 2:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 20.00.00.00 (2014.09.18) 
Copyright (c) 2008-2014 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved 

     Advanced Mode Set

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0) 

     Controller Number              : 2
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0) 
     PCI Address                    : 00:81:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-6-6C94-5000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.06
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.06
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2714 (IR)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.02.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : RMS25KB080
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.00.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : 07.27.01.00
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25KB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
Each crossflashed to LSI:
Card0; RMS25JB080:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 15.00.00.00 (2012.11.06) 
Copyright (c) 2008-2012 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved 

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0) 

     Controller Number              : 0
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0) 
     PCI Address                    : 00:05:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-7-8925-6000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.09
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.09
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2214 (IT)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.07.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : SAS9205-8e
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.02.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : N/A
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25JB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
RMS25KB080 card 1:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 15.00.00.00 (2012.11.06) 
Copyright (c) 2008-2012 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved 

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0) 

     Controller Number              : 1
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0) 
     PCI Address                    : 00:07:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-6-6C95-6000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.09
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.09
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2214 (IT)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.07.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : SAS9205-8e
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.02.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : N/A
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25KB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
RMS25KB080 card 2:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 15.00.00.00 (2012.11.06) 
Copyright (c) 2008-2012 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved 

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0) 

     Controller Number              : 2
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0) 
     PCI Address                    : 00:81:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-6-6C94-5000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.09
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.09
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2214 (IT)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.07.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : SAS9205-8e
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.02.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : N/A
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25KB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
...I am going to contact OEM XS with the discrepancy in their product info...
 
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jwegman said:
It turns out, the two RMS25KB080 that I received where both the B0 (PCIe gen2) stepping, and *not* the D1 (PCIe gen3) stepping that the auction advertised!
Intel RMS25KB080 OEM Integrated PCIe RAID Module New Bulk Packaging

...but they flashed up using the LSI SAS9205-8e FW just like the RMS25JB080 mezzanine card had.

I first updated each card to the most recent Intel IR FW. you can clearly see the stepping of each is B0:
Card0; the RMS25JB080:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 20.00.00.00 (2014.09.18)
Copyright (c) 2008-2014 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved

     Advanced Mode Set

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0)

     Controller Number              : 0
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0)
     PCI Address                    : 00:05:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-7-8925-6000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.06
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.06
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2714 (IR)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.02.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : RMS25JB080
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.00.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : 07.27.01.00
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25JB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
RMS25KB080 1:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 20.00.00.00 (2014.09.18)
Copyright (c) 2008-2014 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved

     Advanced Mode Set

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0)

     Controller Number              : 1
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0)
     PCI Address                    : 00:07:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-6-6C95-6000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.06
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.06
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2714 (IR)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.02.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : RMS25KB080
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.00.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : 07.27.01.00
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25KB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
RMS25KB080 Card 2:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 20.00.00.00 (2014.09.18)
Copyright (c) 2008-2014 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved

     Advanced Mode Set

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0)

     Controller Number              : 2
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0)
     PCI Address                    : 00:81:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-6-6C94-5000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.06
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.06
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2714 (IR)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.02.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : RMS25KB080
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.00.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : 07.27.01.00
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25KB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
Each crossflashed to LSI:
Card0; RMS25JB080:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 15.00.00.00 (2012.11.06)
Copyright (c) 2008-2012 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0)

     Controller Number              : 0
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0)
     PCI Address                    : 00:05:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-7-8925-6000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.09
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.09
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2214 (IT)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.07.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : SAS9205-8e
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.02.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : N/A
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25JB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
RMS25KB080 card 1:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 15.00.00.00 (2012.11.06)
Copyright (c) 2008-2012 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0)

     Controller Number              : 1
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0)
     PCI Address                    : 00:07:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-6-6C95-6000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.09
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.09
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2214 (IT)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.07.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : SAS9205-8e
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.02.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : N/A
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25KB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
RMS25KB080 card 2:
Code: 
LSI Corporation SAS2 Flash Utility
Version 15.00.00.00 (2012.11.06)
Copyright (c) 2008-2012 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved

     Adapter Selected is a LSI SAS: SAS2308_2(B0)

     Controller Number              : 2
     Controller                     : SAS2308_2(B0)
     PCI Address                    : 00:81:00:00
     SAS Address                    : 5001E67-6-6C94-5000
     NVDATA Version (Default)       : 14.01.00.09
     NVDATA Version (Persistent)    : 14.01.00.09
     Firmware Product ID            : 0x2214 (IT)
     Firmware Version               : 20.00.07.00
     NVDATA Vendor                  : LSI
     NVDATA Product ID              : SAS9205-8e
     BIOS Version                   : 07.39.02.00
     UEFI BSD Version               : N/A
     FCODE Version                  : N/A
     Board Name                     : RMS25KB080
     Board Assembly                 : N/A
     Board Tracer Number            : N/A

     Finished Processing Commands Successfully.
     Exiting SAS2Flash.
...I am going to contact OEM XS with the discrepancy in their product info...
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An off the wall question, but have you attempted to flash LSI 9217-8i to these cards? Maybe 9207 doesn't work, but 9217-8i is an OEM card based on the 2308 and the specs look just like the specs that Intel gives out. There are both IT and IR firmware on the LSI site.

I'm actually sort of wondering if these retain their lock in to Intel servers after they are cross flashed.
 
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Gnodu said:
As an aside- if you have the 2u version (r2000 case), it is a totally different set of power supplies- longer and skinnier- I don't have the part numbers handy, but could look when I get home.
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I don't think this is accurate. Here's a picture of 3 750 watt power supplies; one from a P4000M chassis, the other from an R2000, and the third, was a spare. Can you spot a difference (unfortunately the picture cropped the right side, but they are all equal length)?
https://goo.gl/photos/28TqmbrHRQmb8X2r9

Hint, the top was the spare, the middle was from the R2000, and the bottom the P4000.
 
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J Hart said:
An off the wall question, but have you attempted to flash LSI 9217-8i to these cards? Maybe 9207 doesn't work, but 9217-8i is an OEM card based on the 2308 and the specs look just like the specs that Intel gives out. There are both IT and IR firmware on the LSI site.

I'm actually sort of wondering if these retain their lock in to Intel servers after they are cross flashed.
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Yes I had, there is a chip difference between the two variants of the SAS2308, the PCIe gen2 which is what the LSI 9205-8e card was, and the PCIe gen3 which is what the LSI 9207-8i is. You will hit an error attempting to flash 9207-8i to these. No biggie, just flash with 9205-8e. But I am going to chase down with OEM XS to see if they *do* have the D1 steppings (pcie gen3) whcih should crossflash with 9207-8i.

Do these retain their lock after crossflashing? Yes, there are some posts on this forum from back in 2012 where a couple of people found that to be true.
 
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Gnodu said:
@nhtu9280 / Markarr
As previously mentioned, the 4u chassis has three mounting "lengths".

I *think* this is the correct high power one (in fact, I ordered one as a spare last night, via $30 BO to our favorite Intel seller.)
(Sorry, can't get link to paste on iPhone) FUPPDBHC2

Not to be confused with the lower power version: FUPPDBLC

As an aside- if you have the 2u version (r2000 case), it is a totally different set of power supplies- longer and skinnier- I don't have the part numbers handy, but could look when I get home.

Pic of low power option on one of the ip4 servers... I pulled the other part number off a different one that came with 1600 watt power supplies.

Hope this helps!
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@Gnodu

Thanks for the info.

Got the system P4216IP4LHKC today. I does not include RMM4LITE. I installed the Procs & RAM, updated the bios and ran quick platform confidence test (PCT) and appears to be good.

For some reason, PS is fairly loud but there are no issues/events in SEL. I'll run the FRUSDR again and see if it makes a difference. I've already re-seated both the power supplies.

I tried few scenarios using the power requirement spread sheet. with fully populated drives and and a few PCIe cards, it's pushing ~ 700W. Didn't realize that I needed to plan for ~120W for 16 x 8GB RAM.

Download P4000IP_P4300CR Power budget and thermal configuration tool
 
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JayG30 said:
Those of you that purchased the Intel R2312GL4GS from OEMXS, did you apply new thermal paste? If these have been sitting since 2012 I'm thinking it might be smart?

Also, what RAM did you get? I was going to purchase 128GB of RAM from natex.us but not sure about compatibility. Ideally would want something that I won't run into issues in this Intel system or Supermicro X9 boards (as I'm potentially picking up some SM 2U chassis with X9DRI-LN4F (+) motherboards.

They have Samsung M393B1K70DHo-YH9, Kingston AM472D3LD4P13C9EC and Hynix HMT31GR7EFR4C-PB. Just looking for a good deal on the SM/Intel compatible RAM, don't care from where.
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I have a X9DRI-LN4F+ and just installed this 64gb Kingston kit from Natex. No problems to report :)
 
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jwegman said:
I don't think this is accurate. Here's a picture of 3 750 watt power supplies; one from a P4000M chassis, the other from an R2000, and the third, was a spare. Can you spot a difference (unfortunately the picture cropped the right side, but they are all equal length)?
https://goo.gl/photos/28TqmbrHRQmb8X2r9

Hint, the top was the spare, the middle was from the R2000, and the bottom the P4000.
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They both use the same 750W. Here is the Intel link

750W Common Redundant Power Supply FXX750PCRPS (Platium-Efficiency) Specifications
 
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hello guys

i decide to buy two E5-2670 from this seller for US $62.00
now i want to find right online shop to buy motherboard.
i don't want it to play games (i am not gamer).
i think most important is to buy right motherboard for me, then CPU and Memory and HDD ( i have power supply EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2)
i cannot buy from NewEgg, because i am not resident of USA (but i can buy from amazon and ebay)

SUPERMICRO MBD-X9DR3-F-O SSI EEB Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011 DDR3 1600 - Newegg.com
SUPERMICRO MBD-X9DRD-IF-O Server Motherboard - Newegg.com

what motherboards suggest me guys? maybe asrock or other brand?
 
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Hi,

Does anyone know whether the Intel FUP4X35HSDK will fit in the top 3 drive bays of the P4000 case.. An extra 4 drives would be nice and it would very nice if they matched in look..

Thanks!
 
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