How to reformat HDD & SSD to 512B Sector Size

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Ive got an opportunity to buy a bunch of "as-is" Dell sas drives that are advertised as "locked" with no further detail. Im wondering if they might just be formatted with a different sector size.

Drive label. Doesnt appear to be a SED or FDE drive,


Any thoughts?
 

Fritz

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Ive got an opportunity to buy a bunch of "as-is" Dell sas drives that are advertised as "locked" with no further detail. Im wondering if they might just be formatted with a different sector size.

Drive label. Doesnt appear to be a SED or FDE drive,


Any thoughts?
They could be and then again they could be permanently partitioned to a smaller size. I have a 3TB drive that has a 4TB label and a totally different model number. Story goes that sometimes the mfg will do this to a warranty replacement. say you sent in a 3TB drive and they had none in stock. They may take a 4TB drive and partition it as a 3TB and send it to you along with a note explaining this. I've been able to find references to this practice but no way to return the drive to it's true capacity. It's a SAS drive, if it was SATA, there are utilities that will restore it. I even emailed the author of a utility thast can do this and he told me he knew of no way to restore the capacity of a SAS drive. The drive works just fine and has been in a 24/7 chassis for months.

and btw, I paid a 3TB price for it.
 

bandit8623

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Ive got an opportunity to buy a bunch of "as-is" Dell sas drives that are advertised as "locked" with no further detail. Im wondering if they might just be formatted with a different sector size.

Drive label. Doesnt appear to be a SED or FDE drive,


Any thoughts?
they are sed. look at the the key code under thailand. but you can use sed unlocker in parted magic if they are locked usually. or a sas3 lsi raid card will unlock
 

yemencit

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Hi
I have problem to reformat Seagate 3.84tb Sas ssd but this is netapp when I install in normal server not working like dell r740 I need tell me how can be reformat this hard disk from 528 or 520 to 512
What the hba card working with this hard disk to can reformat and what the the tools working with hard disk and server
 

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bandit8623

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Hi
I have problem to reformat Seagate 3.84tb Sas ssd but this is netapp when I install in normal server not working like dell r740 I need tell me how can be reformat this hard disk from 528 or 520 to 512
What the hba card working with this hard disk to can reformat and what the the tools working with hard disk and server
any lsi 6gb that supports 4k drives will work. here are a few i know work. the first 2 are minimum cards for lsi. older cards than this wont support 4k and wont show the drive properly
9210-8i -needs latest firm
9211-8i -needs latest firm
3008 cards (these are 12gb sas but are backwards compatible) - any firmware

as long as in IT mode they will work.
 
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yemencit

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Thank you for your reply
But my hard disk is 528 not 4k can work.
my Hard disk 12g sas is it compatible with 9210-8i
What the tools to can reformat this hard disk.

any lsi 6gb that supports 4k drives will work. here are a few i know work. the first 2 are minimum cards for lsi. older cards than this wont support 4k and wont show the drive properly
9210-8i -needs latest firm
9211-8i -needs latest firm
3008 cards - any firmware

as long as in IT mode they will work.
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1.47 said missing files or something. cyg problem i stopped troubleshooting as 1.46 works fine without using cyg
Thanks. Reason I ask is I have a 4TB Toshiba HD that gets to 1.46% then stalls. Thought this might be a Windows problem but I guess not. The seller sent my an exact replacement and sg_utils had no problem formatting it. HD Sentinel says the stalling Hd is 100% healthy.
 

bandit8623

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Thanks. Reason I ask is I have a 4TB Toshiba HD that gets to 1.46% then stalls. Thought this might be a Windows problem but I guess not. The seller sent my an exact replacement and sg_utils had no problem formatting it. HD Sentinel says the stalling Hd is 100% healthy.
yeah i have been using 1.46 on windows and have probably formatted over 200 hds/ssd's at this point. no problems.
 

yemencit

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Please see attached this is card working with dell power edge r740

any lsi 6gb that supports 4k drives will work. here are a few i know work. the first 2 are minimum cards for lsi. older cards than this wont support 4k and wont show the drive properly
9210-8i -needs latest firm
9211-8i -needs latest firm
3008 cards (these are 12gb sas but are backwards compatible) - any firmware

as long as in IT mode they will work.
 

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bandit8623

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But the cable for hba cant install in r740 sas interface
it should . the front expander should connect direct right into that card with the hdsas cable. if you mean the cable in that picture you shared? yes that wont connect direct in a dell server. the dell 740 has an expander so it needs the
Mini SAS HD SFF-8643 to
Mini SAS HD SFF-8643

cable

9MHYN


is the dell pn. notice the elbow on the one end.

if you also could go this route and use sata power adapters, but your dell server wont have many sata molex power readily available.

https://www.amazon.com/AdcAudx-SFF-...jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
 
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biffa

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Thought I was registered here but confused it with a sort of similar/named forum :) turns out I was not despite being lurking for a long time.

Registered now to say a thanks for this thread, was picking up some 2TB NetAPP drives from mate at work as they were clearing out a few of the shelves they were SATA drives. As I was browsing through the 240 drives that were going to be crushed! Found Toshiba MG04SCA60EE, 6TB SAS drives, been wasting time with reformatting under LSI Option bios on HP Z840, which did nothing.

Thanks to this thread now have 4 drives happily reformatting at once in the Z840, very pleased as I have 28 of them, seem to be going much quicker than the 21 hours it took one to be formatted under the LSI rom, which as it turns out did not work.
 

yemencit

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it should . the front expander should connect direct right into that card with the hdsas cable. if you mean the cable in that picture you shared? yes that wont connect direct in a dell server. the dell 740 has an expander so it needs the
Mini SAS HD SFF-8643 to
Mini SAS HD SFF-8643

cable

9MHYN


is the dell pn. notice the elbow on the one end.

if you also could go this route and use sata power adapters, but your dell server wont have many sata molex power readily available.

https://www.amazon.com/AdcAudx-SFF-8643-SFF-8482-Mini-Adapter/dp/B09ZLGHZ5S/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=H13DE92FTNJS&keywords=mini+sas+hdd&qid=1655505912&s=electronics&sprefix=mini+sas+hd,electronics,79&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFXNEExSTBRTUMyVksmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA1NTIxMjgyTk9HM1pCWDFOT05SJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwOTU2MjEzMDI0S0lLVUs0RlRJJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
Please see attached file this is card and cable comtible with r740 to use to get it mode hba
 

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