ES Xeon Discussion

[RolloZ170]

Still interested if anyone is runnning: E5-2658 v3 - QEYP, as it looks like the best deal out there.
Any alternatives? Faster without HT may be?

The 2650v3 QEYN 10 cores, all 2500mhz, single 2800mhz.

But the 2658v3 QEYP has the best price/performance ratio yet.

 

[RolloZ170]

Still interested if anyone is runnning: E5-2658 v3 - QEYP, as it looks like the best deal out there.
Any alternatives? Faster without HT may be?

more cores will go faster, u get nothing with 200mhz more per core.

 

[RolloZ170]

Why is the bios version different in those screenshots? One shows 5.11 and the other shows f22. Are you using a different bios on the primary and then on the secondary?

That are different bios rev., look at the date on the left. but that latest bios is not needed for haswell-ep v3 cpu.

 

[RolloZ170]

Yea that's what I had realized after I had edited my post for that. 5.11 seems to be a custom bios if I am not mistaken though?

it was a beta BIOS.

 

[RolloZ170]

Have you tried the E5-2670 V3 QGDQ (ES2 with M0)? I was looking at that or the E5-2690 V3 but the E5-2690 V3's I found were ES1 with Stepping 1 (B0 stepping).

2670 v3 QGDQ is QS not ES2(stepping 2,rev.M0)
the 2690 v3 ES2 QEYJ is stepping 1, L0.
If you have cpu-z screenshot look at the instructions, if there is TSX still on
its a ES2 not a QS.
QS and OEM/Retail v3 have TSX disabled.

 

[TLN]

The 2650v3 QEYN 10 cores, all 2500mhz, single 2800mhz.
But the 2658v3 QEYP has the best price/performance ratio yet.

more cores will go faster, u get nothing with 200mhz more per core.

Anything with 3ghz is way out of reasonable price range, right? Say 8-12 cores, 3Ghz, no HT would be nice.

2658v3 QEYP looks like a descent upgrade from 2.5Ghz E3-1265Lv2 alone. Two won't even compare.

 

[Viktor N]

Bit of a generic question, but what's the thermal cutoff for the ES v3/v4 chips in general? 90-105C...?

 

[Viktor N]

I received my cpu's on friday. Same board, waiting on the ram ( will be delivered today ) ...

Any luck getting the system to work? I'm still waiting for the Mobo/RAM.

 

[Doppelbauer]

Many used E5 2683 v3 offered on Ebay, mainly from Japan and China. Best offers: Earlier ES 220 $ (would rather not buy), QFQK/QGN5 (QS) 300 $ (same as retail), OEM/retail 350 $.

 

[RolloZ170]

Not sure if this belongs in this thread, but does anyone know if these E5-2695 V2's on eBay would work with an Asus Z9-PAD8?

Intel Xeon E5 2695 V2 QS 2.4Ghz 30MB L3 12 Core Max Turbo 3.2GGhz 115W CPU

I have the Asus board and dual E5-2670's on the way, but after reading more about ES chips and eBay chips in general, I'm wondering if the 2695 v2 or even 2697 v2 would be a better purchase. If I install the E5-2670's now, would it be relatively simple to swap them out for 2695 v2's or 2697 v2's later on?

This is all LGA 2011 as far as I know, so any of these chips should just work, right?

You should check if the retail version of that cpu is compat. with your board, if is the 2695v2 QS will run.

 

[RolloZ170]

QGP2 should be QS and and QFS0 should be M0 which is ES according to this:
http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/QF/QFS0.html

M0 ist the stepping of retail, QS has usualy that stepping.
And a QS is still marked as ES.
QFS0 is QS for M0
QGP2 is QS for M1

 

[RolloZ170]

Anything with 3ghz is way out of reasonable price range, right? Say 8-12 cores, 3Ghz, no HT would be nice.

2658v3 QEYP looks like a descent upgrade from 2.5Ghz E3-1265Lv2 alone. Two won't even compare.

descent yes, 3 times more cores, lower clock but much more IPC
Just compare the cinebench, u have to beat cb 1250.

Search for E5-2685 v3/E5-2666 v3, its a 12/10core without HT, but that cost 60% performance
which will not come back with higher clock.

 

[RolloZ170]

Bit of a generic question, but what's the thermal cutoff for the ES v3/v4 chips in general? 90-105C...?

various, 85..95 degree TJmax for normal, 70..75 degree for LV ones.

 

[TheJackal83]

Any luck getting the system to work? I'm still waiting for the Mobo/RAM.

unfortunately my build is hanging right now, waiting for 2 EK waterblocks.
The waiting is killing. I Hope I have info this weekend.

 

[Viktor N]

unfortunately my build is hanging right now, waiting for 2 EK waterblocks.
The waiting is killing. I Hope I have info this weekend.

Good luck. If things go well I'll have something by Sunday, though that depends on the mobo delivery.

 

[helsyeah]

This has been a very informative thread, thank you all for contributing.

Along those lines, I stumbled across this listing: Intel Xeon E5 2630 V4 ES 2.2Ghz 25MB L3 10 Core Max Turbo 3.1Ghz 85W Broadwell-E

Its a stepping 1 2630 V4 (from xtrememicro) which I assume is a fairly close match to retail since it matches retail clocks and such.

I took a chance and ordered one, it should be here next week and I can report what I find with it.

 

[britinpdx]

Still interested if anyone is runnning: E5-2658 v3 - QEYP, as it looks like the best deal out there.

As @RolloZ170 has indicated..

the 2658v3 QEYP has the best price/performance ratio yet

I purchased an E5-2658 v3 ES from hwtrade-e on eBay on 8/1, it arrived in PDX today 8/10. Asking price was $156, my offer of $145 was accepted (+ shipping). The seller communicated well and provided tracking details and a hwinfo "screen shot" of the CPU details. The tracking details allowed me to track the item through USPS from arriving in SFO through to delivery. CPU was in good shape, shipped in an anti-static bag with plenty of protection in a small box. This is not an endorsement of the seller, "just the facts, ma'am".

I have briefly tested the CPU with the following setup:
Supermicro SC846TQ chassis with 1x PWS-501P power supply
Supermicro X10SRH-CLN4F motherboard
Supermicro SNK-P0050AP4 CPU Cooler (mobo needs a narrow ILM cooler)
4x 4GB PC4-2133P-R (Micron I believe)
1x Kingston Hyper-X 120GB SSD
Windows Server 2012R2
BIOS and OS set for efficiency (min power)

CPU-Z report...

AIDA64 CPUID report..

AIDA64 memory benchmark...

HWiNFO64 while CPU is under load (all cores at max turbo of 2.3GHz)...

Cinebench R15 result=1324...

Passmark CPU result=13644...

a quick 20 min AIDA64 Stability test...
"Idle" power reported by Kill-A-Watt = 64W
"Load" power reported by Kill-A-Watt = 160W

Stats for the AIDA64 Stess Test...

So far, so good.....

 

[barboggo]

For any cpu/motherboard check socket type for both. If they match then the cpu is compatible with the motherboard. You might also want to check TDP for both cpu and motherboard.
As for swapping cpus it should be an easy task.

You should check if the retail version of that cpu is compat. with your board, if is the 2695v2 QS will run.

Thanks for the tips guys. I feel super fortunate to have discovered such a helpful and engaging community around this stuff. I'll definitely post my experiences with these chips when I get an opportunity to play with them.

 

[Jimxz]

hello guys. I've read the ENTIRE post the 14 pages of it. lol. very interesting topic.

I am a CGI artist and I mainly use V-ray renderer. the more cores the merrier.

I've been sifting through ebay to find the best CPU.

my main concern is cinebench score.

I'm trying to build a dual socket system without spending more than 800 usd on the CPUs.

I've found these processors:

Intel-Xeon-E5-2683-V4-ES-2-0Ghz-40MB-16Core-LGA2011-14nm-120W-QHUY-Processor

Intel Xeon E5 2683 V4 ES 2.0Ghz 40MB 16Core LGA2011 14nm 120W QHUY Processor

Intel Xeon E5 2683 V4 ES QHUY 2.0GHz 16Core 120W 14nm LGA2011 Processor CPU

Intel Xeon E5 2683 V3 OEM 2.0Ghz 35MB L3 14 Core Max Turbo 3.0Ghz 120W CPU

Intel Xeon E5-2683 v3 OEM/Retail SR1XH LGA2011-3 Compatible X99

Intel Xeon E5 2683 V3 QS 2.0Ghz 35MB L3 14 Core Max Turbo 2.6Ghz 120W Haswell-E

Intel Xeon Processor E5-2695 v3 QS CPU 2.3GHz 14-Core Max 3.3GHz SR1XG QGN4 ES

Intel Xeon E5-2683v4 ES 16-Core 2.0GHz (Turbo 2.5GHz)

wow that's some list. which of those is better ? two 2683 v4 would perform better than a single 2695 v3 for example.

I'm pretty much convinced that the 2683 v4 is the best out there because although it is a nerfed version of the retail one it still scores 1885 points on cinebench. so 2 of these processors would score 3770 which is much higher than any single processor could score for the same price or even much higher.

Cinebench R15 (Multi-Core) CPU benchmark list - compare CPU at cpu-monkey

 

[helsyeah]

If price (not compatibility) is your primary deciding factor, the 2683V4 is probably your winner. If you compatibility is more important than price, a later stepping QS or even OEM 2683V3 would probably be the better choice.

There are several later stepping 2683V3's available (QF*/QG*) for reasonable prices, and even some OEM/Retail 2683V3s might be found for similar prices (Intel Xeon E5-2683 v3 OEM/Retail SR1XH LGA2011-3 Compatible X99 i7-5960X).

Finding a reputable seller might be a challenge though.