ES Xeon Discussion

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@krista could check Ebay or Taobao. The e5-2666/2667 look interesting. It is difficult to order from Taobao though you would have to wire money or get an agent. A lot of inventory does not exist-- so you might see a chip listed by multiple vendors when in actuality none will carry. Google works pretty good for translating to Chinese.
 

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@krista could check Ebay or Taobao. The e5-2666/2667 look interesting. It is difficult to order from Taobao though you would have to wire money or get an agent. A lot of inventory does not exist-- so you might see a chip listed by multiple vendors when in actuality none will carry. Google works pretty good for translating to Chinese.
thanks!

i've been checking ebay: that's where i got the first one, and lost the second auction by a few dollars. taobao...kinda frightens me. while i have found a few e5-2667v3 "qs" (even es is qs there, lol), i can't figure out which qcode they are.

i was kinda hoping there would be a forum or something for these...oh well, and thanks!
 

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@krista QS stands for quality sample. All specs match the retail chip. ES is engineering. Turbo will be disabled in most cases. Best to avoid early ES samples and stick with QS or retail or OEM unless you want to take a gamble. Probably easier just to pay seller directly versus auction. Most sellers will put up a CPU ID screen so you can see check exactly what they are selling. You can check the specs at cpuworld. You can find the multipliers at wikipedia or cpuworld to figure out the specs.
 

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@krista QS stands for quality sample. All specs match the retail chip. ES is engineering. Turbo will be disabled in most cases. Best to avoid early ES samples and stick with QS or retail or OEM unless you want to take a gamble. Probably easier just to pay seller directly versus auction. Most sellers will put up a CPU ID screen so you can see check exactly what they are selling. You can check the specs at cpuworld. You can find the multipliers at wikipedia or cpuworld to figure out the specs.

got that, no worries :)


i was referencing sellers on taobao calling *everything* a qs chip, even when clearly a0 stepping early es, possibly pre-es internal samples.


still looking for that qgsq, though...
 

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I've not seen that but wasn't looking for that chip. They have a review/feedback rating just like Ebay. You can also look at history of seller and when they started selling. You can also look and see how many transactions they did in the last 12 months and what the feedback was. I didn't end up buying because you have to find an agent, also, who will add a fee and didn't find a good way to vet such an agent or you will have to wire money and most banks will charge for that. If you make a deal directly with ebay seller (against the rules and you cant use ebay protections) then you might get just as cheap from ebay.

got that, no worries :)


i was referencing sellers on taobao calling *everything* a qs chip, even when clearly a0 stepping early es, possibly pre-es internal samples.


still looking for that qgsq, though...
 

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But getting back to my question, does anyone know what type of cooler the E5-2689 v4 needs? It shows on cpuworld that it has a 55C working temp and that is very low when you compare to e5-2687W. Also, does anyone have a good explanation of the CPU features for the ASUS Z10PE-W16 motherboard? The manual and settings explanation is the worst ever. I notice the fan RPMs are very low and I don't seem to have anyway to change them with CPU FAN RPM only 600-800.

I am trying to figure out if I need to buy a more powerful cooler or whether or whether or not it could be something else either with the heatsink paste/sealing, FAN RPM speeds, or bios settings. Update running NH-U9DXi4 cooler.

Update: I discovered that at least part of the reason the reporting was a little lower was because I left the bus speed set to auto which appears to set the bus speed a little underclocked-- when changed to manual then my reported average boost clock is almost correct. So we had a few issues going on.. with Corona, the max turbo is limited to 3.2 and on the other test the reporting was a bit lower due to the "auto" setting on bus speed. Still, I'm getting reported Turbo or actual speed .1 off. So not sure but I guess it is close.

If anyone has 2689 v4 and wants to share temps/specs would be good so I know if my temps are in line or not.
 
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E5-2689 v4 is 165W CPU. That's probably max power from stock CPU from Intel.
My opinion is that you should but the biggest cooler you can install, even for lower CPUs with 135W aor 105W.

First of all it will keep CPU cooler. Bigger fans are more quiet. And they will be spinning slower which is again: more quiet.
 

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a 1 year socket... I stand by my statement lol.
I too am rather disappointed by the life cycle. I got a great deal on a Lenovo TD340 with an E5-2407 v2 with the hope of replacing the processor in a year or two when the prices dropped on the higher end units. I ended up picking up a second E5-2407 v2 for cheap at least.

I'd really like to get 2 x 2450L V2s. I tried 2 ES models ( can't remember if they were 2430s or 2450s, but neither worked. Suggestions for some steppings that might?). I've seen 2450L V1's go for rather cheap, but I'm not sure it's worth it. Maybe next year when the processor is 3 years old I'll find what I'm looking for.

As it stands my ancient 2 x L5630 machine performs similarly to the 2 x 2407 v2 and the CPU's use less power. I've considered picking up 2 x L5640s since they are so cheap, but I'm not sure the extra cores would help much. The downside is the mobo has onboard SATAII and PCIe 2. At least with my SM X8DTH-6F I get 8 x 8x PCIe lanes to somewhat balance this out.
 

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Mistertao is taking 8% commission.
By the way , xtrememicro refunded my order on the xeon e5 2686v3 qs and told me they have oversold, did it happened to you too?
Yeah same with mine. Gutted.

Great for PayPal, they manage to take their fees and scalp 2 x on the FX conversion.
 
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So far my ultra-cheap V4 ES is working. It has Vt-D and it is working. I passed through, and am using Perc310/LSI HBA just fine, also passed thruiogh intel 10G nic but that has issues w/esxi (common). For <$130 for 12 cores I'm not complaining.
What was the issue you had with esxi?
 

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@krista QS stands for quality sample. All specs match the retail chip. ES is engineering. Turbo will be disabled in most cases. Best to avoid early ES samples and stick with QS or retail or OEM unless you want to take a gamble.
Engineering samples have turbo boost the majority of the time. However the turbo speeds are typically lower than that of QS or production processors. Also some ES are QS even though they don't have the correct microcode detection. That may be the case because the second sample of ES becomes QS eventually (without any changes aside from microcode).

can i mix 2683v3 M0 Stepping with C0/C1 Stepping?
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In theory yes.
 

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Hi guys,

Hope you could help me out here. So i got this Xeon E5-2683 v4 ES on ebay right here: https://goo.gl/FYVAxc

I have already tried it on 2 Mobos:

MSI X99A Tomahawk (stock bios)

and

X99A SLI Krait Edition (tried bios N.7 and the latest one N.8)

And i did not manage to boot it up. All i get is a blank screen.

I am planning on trying the X99A Raider next, however i would like to really make sure the thing will boot 'cause i am really tired with finding different mobos all the time :-D

I have attached a photo of my CPU and also the testing screenshot (it is supposed to be the screenshot of this very CPU being tested by the seller.)

I really don't have much experience with these ES CPUs, but i would really want to get this bad boy going! From what i understood i got one with the A1 revision: E5 2683 V4 QHZE ES Remarked as SR2JT

I would very much appreciate your advice on the Mobo that could run this CPU.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Well to be really sure you should use a Z10Pa-D8 - that's what the seller used;)

But to be serious - its weird that its not working.

The Stepping afterwards (QS) seems to run on X99, the previous one es well.

But I am not sure what the effect of an incompatibility would be ... maybe one of the more seasoned users can comment on that:)
 

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Thanks for the reply!

Yes, that is what i figured, however it does not work at all :-(

I am almost sure that X99A Raider would work, however i want to know for sure before i give it a try. Z10Pa-D8 i know, i think this would be my last try when everything else fails to work :) However, i would rather buy something on x99 rather than server stuff
 

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Just sent the message today. I initially thought that this is the full list of compatible products...
 

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Hi guys,

Hope you could help me out here. So i got this Xeon E5-2683 v4 ES on ebay right here: https://goo.gl/FYVAxc

I have already tried it on 2 Mobos:

MSI X99A Tomahawk (stock bios)

and

X99A SLI Krait Edition (tried bios N.7 and the latest one N.8)

And i did not manage to boot it up. All i get is a blank screen.

I am planning on trying the X99A Raider next, however i would like to really make sure the thing will boot 'cause i am really tired with finding different mobos all the time :-D

I have attached a photo of my CPU and also the testing screenshot (it is supposed to be the screenshot of this very CPU being tested by the seller.)

I really don't have much experience with these ES CPUs, but i would really want to get this bad boy going! From what i understood i got one with the A1 revision: E5 2683 V4 QHZE ES Remarked as SR2JT

I would very much appreciate your advice on the Mobo that could run this CPU.

Thanks in advance!

You need a v3 to update the bios I had this problem 2 weeks ago I have the 2683 v4 on a x99 raider.
If you are near the houston texas area I could lend you a hand I have a Xeon v3 haswell.
 

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WOW! Looks like you have exactly the same CPU as i am, even the A1 revision! Well, it is MSI x99 raider then :)

Do you have a P.5 Bios or P.4?

Unfortunately, i am not even near houston texas, but thanks anyways!