ES Xeon Discussion

krista

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that might be an interesting way to get an indirect measurement.... it'd probably need to continuously log all the core multipliers, wait, run a single thread associated with a single core and measure, wait, run two threads associated with seperate cores and measure, wait... you get the picture.


if nothing automated comes up, maybe i'll code something... although if something already exists, i'd rather not reinvent it.
 

RolloZ170

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hey, is there any tool that you guys know of that will measure the turbo speed steps of a cpu? i mean like all core turbo, 4 core turbo, 3 core turbo, 1 core turbo, etc.
thanks!
just look into your bios
TurboBINs.gif
and AIDA64 can display the turbo bin's in the CPU info sheet.
aida64turbobins.png
 
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Nanotech

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My mistake, you're right. The 86 is a little too much, I can get a 6800k for $385 so anything close to $400 I would just go for the 6800k.
At this point all the good stepping/revision V4 ES's are either sold out or too expensive. The E5-2630 V4 (R0) is out of stock wherever I look and it offered a nice 2.2Ghz at 85W TDP with 10 cores / 20 threads. If you can get a 6800K in the US for $385 you should probably go for it.
 

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Hi Guys, New here and hoping for some advice please! ,

i have a chance of a great deal on a Gigabyte X99-UD4P (rev 1.0) and was hoping to pick up a decent Xeon E5 cpu for it. its on a desktop that i use for mild gaming etc and general use. Does anyone know for cetain which options work with this board and which bios to use. i will be getting an Xeon ES/QS due to price. hoping for 10 cores at a decent speed as well or similar!

thanks again!!

Gordy! :)
 

Nanotech

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Hi Guys, New here and hoping for some advice please! ,

i have a chance of a great deal on a Gigabyte X99-UD4P (rev 1.0) and was hoping to pick up a decent Xeon E5 cpu for it. its on a desktop that i use for mild gaming etc and general use. Does anyone know for cetain which options work with this board and which bios to use. i will be getting an Xeon ES/QS due to price. hoping for 10 cores at a decent speed as well or similar!

thanks again!!

Gordy! :)
I'd recommend the E5-2670 V3. It's a Stepping 1 (pre-QS) Haswell-EP processor at a greatly affordable price:

Intel Xeon E5-2670 v3 ES LGA2011-3 12C Compatible with X99 i7-5820K 5930K 5960X

There was Stepping 2 QS versions before but I don't see them available anymore. This version should be compatible with most of the bioses on the X99-UD4P and the seller has the compatibility list including the X99 series in the description. V3 ES's are largely compatible with X99 motherboards unlike V4 ES Xeons which require specific steppings/revisions and motherboards.
 
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SUN75

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Hi Guys, New here and looking for some advice please!,
I have Asus Rampage V Extreme with BIOS 3301 Mod. I want to buy Xeon 2698 ES V4 or Xeon 2686 QS V3. Which one will work on my motherboard ??? Did I need to change it for Asrock X99 to use Xeon V4 CPUs ?
 

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I'd recommend the E5-2670 V3. It's a Stepping 1 (pre-QS) Haswell-EP processor at a greatly affordable price:

Intel Xeon E5-2670 v3 ES LGA2011-3 12C Compatible with X99 i7-5820K 5930K 5960X

There was Stepping 2 QS versions before but I don't see them available anymore. This version should be compatible with most of the bioses on the X99-UD4P and the seller has the compatibility list including the X99 series in the description. V3 ES's are largely compatible with X99 motherboards unlike V4 ES Xeons which require specific steppings/revisions and motherboards.
Thanks dude...... much appreciated, i may however have managed an even better deal with the said mobo , a retail 5820K and 16gb ddr4 with a free case flung in for a very decent price!!
 

Nanotech

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Hi Guys, New here and looking for some advice please!,
I have Asus Rampage V Extreme with BIOS 3301 Mod. I want to buy Xeon 2698 ES V4 or Xeon 2686 QS V3. Which one will work on my motherboard ??? Did I need to change it for Asrock X99 to use Xeon V4 CPUs ?
Both the E5-2698 V4 ES (QHUZ / QHZD) are incompatible with the Rampage V Extreme as they are pre-B0 stepping. If you want those cheaper Stepping 0 processors you will need an AsRock X99 to use with those early revision 2698 V4 ES. The E5-2698 V4 QS is QK11 and much pricier because it's a QS. Otherwise the 2686 V3 QS is compatible since it has the same stepping and functionality as a retail/oem part.
 

Stan

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Hi guys,

We are thinking of upgrading our render farm (using 3dsmax and Vray) and we are thinking of doing it through the use of ES CPUs.

I was thinking of getting either :
For pure performances, the 2683 will be better, but what revision will be the most stable?

I'm not used to the revisions type of ES CPU, can anyone recommend one CPU over another?
I was thinking of getting the ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS or the ASUS Z10PE-D8 WS. Probably the D16 as it's newer?

Thanks for your help!
Stan
 

Nanotech

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Hi guys,

We are thinking of upgrading our render farm (using 3dsmax and Vray) and we are thinking of doing it through the use of ES CPUs.

I was thinking of getting either :
For pure performances, the 2683 will be better, but what revision will be the most stable?

I'm not used to the revisions type of ES CPU, can anyone recommend one CPU over another?
I was thinking of getting the ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS or the ASUS Z10PE-D8 WS. Probably the D16 as it's newer?

Thanks for your help!
Stan
Stan if you are set on the E5-2683 V3 then keep in mind that the E5 2683 V3 QGN5 are early engineering samples ie an earlier revision and stepping. If you want the QS version which is one step away from production or retail you would need to look for a QFQK. Here's an example of a E5 2683 V3 QS:

Intel Xeon Processor E5-2683 v3 QS CPU 2.0GHz 14-Core Max 3.0GHz SR1XH QFQK ES
 
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Stan

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Hi Nanotech,
Thanks for your reply, but I'm looking at the V4 and not the V3 versions.
How good or bad is the QHUY revision?

Thanks for your help, appreciate it!
Stan
 

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If you are doing an upgrade for something work related I would suggest not using ES processors. In some cases features my not be enabled or work correctly in ES chips. It's hit and miss with this and would take a fair amount of research to confirm what functions are disabled in certain ES chips, but don't risk it for work related things.

Unless the ES chips in question have a stepping that is the same as release chips, but these will most likely cost way more. Go with retail for work.

The ones that you linked are A1 stepping... there is a reason he is asking only $345 per, odd's are they will not work or require a very early BIOS which may not support all features on a retail MB.
 
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Nanotech

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Thank you! So only QS cpus are compatible with Asus RVE ???
From the V4 Series yes that is correct if you are looking at ES samples. So anything pre-QS it will fail to post or it will boot loop with various post codes.

Hi Nanotech,
Thanks for your reply, but I'm looking at the V4 and not the V3 versions.
How good or bad is the QHUY revision?

Thanks for your help, appreciate it!
Stan
The QHUY is a A1 stepping. The QS is a QK7K which is a B0 stepping (identical to production). It's your choice whether you would like spend more for a QS or spend less. Both should be stable but if you depend on it for work I would spend more for QS.
 

Stan

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Thanks for your feedback Nanotech.
We will get a couple to build a node and see if it works as expected, if it does, we might build another 9 node or so.
I can let you guys know how we do if it's something you're interested in.

Cheers
 

Nanotech

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Thanks for your feedback Nanotech.
We will get a couple to build a node and see if it works as expected, if it does, we might build another 9 node or so.
I can let you guys know how we do if it's something you're interested in.

Cheers
No problem and please feel free to let us know how it goes.
 

SUN75

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No problem and please feel free to let us know how it goes.
I want to ask you ... if I just change I7 5960x with Xeon 2686 V3 or Xeon 2698 V4 QS. What will be improvement in all apps ??? About 40- 50 % or just the same ?
 

XRzX

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hi all, i am new here

do you guys have experience with motherboard evga x99 micro?
does it have compabilities issues with xeon v4 es?

i have a plan to buy xeon e5 2680 v4 es

sorry for my bad english

thank you